Counting TFM hits of IR - now @1776 - year 1996 is WIP - poll for "rAman abdullA"

Adding 4 hits from that album for a Vijayakanth movie (me too got surprised by the millions of hits on YT for "Ei mAmA" song

#1196 ivan veeran sooran (2 versions, SJ with chorus was more popular, en kitta mOdhAdhE)
Reminded me of the TN bus journeys - this got played really loud those days

#1197 Ei mAmA unnaththAn ninnA AgAthA? (SJ solo, en kitta mOdhAdhE)
As mentioned before, inexplicable to see millions of hit for this simple village number from a forgotten Vijayakanth movie  Internet / YT world is quite strange!

#1198 onnOda reNdennu (SJ-MV duet with chorus, en kitta mOdhAdhE)
A song that reminds one of some old tunes of IR - cannot quickly get to it though, but sure it was popular and hit

#1199 sariyO sariyO (SJ-MV duet, en kitta mOdhAdhE)
That phenomenal KSC hit in Malayalam in 80's for the Dennis Joseph film atharvam - puzhaiyOraththu - got a remake here as a duet and this too became a hit in TN those days!

With that album covered, now let us move to next poll - ethir kAtRu

ingu irukkum kAlam varaikkum	Uma Ramanan
nee uLLa poRanthu	Malaysia Vasudevan / Chorus
rAjA illA rANi yendRum rANithAn	Arunmozhi / Umaramanan
kooNdai vittu veLiyil vanthu	K.J.Yesudas
sAmiyArA pOnavanukku samsAra ninaippethaRku	ilaiyaRaaja / Chorus

Voted for 4 songs.  All 4 are moderate hits (based on Radio and DD) and good numbers.  My favs are Raja illaa, Ingu irukkum and Koondai vittu.  Saamiyaaraa ponavanukku is a fun number in IR voice.  The only song that is not popular in the album is "Nee ulla porandhu".

Adding 2 hit songs from that not-so-spectacular album for a Karthik movie...

#1200 ingu irukkum kAlam varikkum (UR solo, ethir kAtRu)
Nice song and as per TN-ers this was a moderate hit, mainly on radios and recording center levels

#1201 kooNdai vittu veLyil vandhu (KJY solo, ethir kAtRu)
Similar to the number above - both songs are known to me personally only in the internet era

The next album may not need a poll as I'm very familiar with all the songs in recent times and that too not me searching for them myself. However, adding the poll here just to know how popular they were in TN when they arrived (as I'm not a first-hand witness, possibly my engagement - accident time period):

gOpura vAsalilE

priyasaki priyasaki varuvEn vAsal thEdi	Mano / S.Janaki
thAlAttum poongkARRu nAnallavA	S.Janaki
kELadi yen pAvaiyE	S.P.Balasubramaniam
nAtham yezhunthathadi kaNNammA	K.J.Yesudas / S.Janaki / Chorus
dhEvathai pOl oru peN	Malaysia Vasudevan / Mano / Dheeban Chakaravarthy / S.N.Surendar
kAdhal kavithaigaL padithidum nEram	S.P.Balasubramaniam / K.S.Chithra

ALL the songs.  This album did not need (or rather, should not go through) a poll, IMHO.

BC wrote:ALL the songs.  This album did not need (or rather, should not go through) a poll, IMHO.

Agree

Back after a long break.... thank you for the revival of the thread

Can't believe

indhira sundhariE sontham yendRu koLLa vA ilaiyaRaaja / S.Janaki &  nilavE nee varavENdum ilaiyaRaaja

are missing from "en arugil nee irunthAl"

Both were super hits, definitely bigger than Paadu Patteduthu, and Indira was a regular OO feature. Kindly review

[μsic]மாபியா wrote:Back after a long break.... thank you for the revival of the thread

Can't believe

indhira sundhariE sontham yendRu koLLa vA ilaiyaRaaja / S.Janaki &  nilavE nee varavENdum ilaiyaRaaja

are missing from "en arugil nee irunthAl"

Both were super hits, definitely bigger than Paadu Patteduthu, and Indira was a regular OO feature. Kindly review

nanRi sir, for the valuable input!

I'll arrange to make the necessary update!

Kr wrote:

BC wrote:ALL the songs.  This album did not need (or rather, should not go through) a poll, IMHO.

Agree

nanRi for the feedback! I'll add all songs of GV album to the hit history!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ACp_kAc5cI

As for the album "Edhir Kaatru", the song 'Raaja illaa raani" is more popular than "Koondai vittu".  Requesting to add that song to the hits-list.

Adding the missed hits first...

#1202 rAjA illA rANi (UR - Arunmozhi, ethir kAtru)
Sweet song with typical IR elements of late-80's, added as informed by TN-ers

#1203 nilavE nee varavENdum (IR solo, en arugil nee irundhAl)
Very sweet #IR_Waltz number with his typical tablA+bass guitar + chords specialty arrangement!

#1204 indhira sundhariyE sondham enRu koLLa vA (SJ-IR duet, en arugil nee irundhAl)
Another #IR_Waltz with a different rhythm arrangement from the song above - enjoyable!

And then all the albums of the super hit album gOpura vAsalilE (the movie was directed by Priyadharsan, the famous Malayalam director).

#1205 priya saKhi O priya sakhi (SJ-Mano duet, gOpura vAsalilE)
As mentioned before, my familiarity with these songs are in the new millennium when I got these from CDs from friends - as I've totally missed this album due to things happening on the personal front in 1990. Quite an interesting number in the "IR-only" genre

#1206 thAlAttum poongAtRu nAn allavA (SJ solo, gOpura vAsalilE)
I've written many appreciative posts on this song - among the greatest solos given to SJ by IR!

#1207 kELadi en pAvaiyE (SPB solo, gOpura vAsalilE)
Got covered in the IR-SPB series done on mayyam.com a few years back. Murali Srinivas sir posted that there's a surprise for me on the video (and I saw it after that)

#1208 nAtham ezhundhathadi kaNNammA (SJ-KJY duet, gOpura vAsalilE)
Phenomenal IR-only-possible kind of terrific fusion number!

#1209 dEvadhai pOloru peNNonRu vandhadhu (Mano / MV / SNS / DC group song, gOpura vAsalilE)
One of our relatives in U.S. told me that this was the song that was played repeatedly as "BGM" in her parents' wedding cassette It was that much popular in TN those days!

#1210 kAdhal kavidhaigaL (KSC-SPB duet, gOpura vAsalilE)
Despite the irritating dialog in the beginning, awesome song with terrific orchestration!

Having taken care of these, now time for next poll

irumbu pookkaL
Naanum kooda mannanthAn Mano / Chorus
rettai kuruvi rettai vAlu kuruvi Mano / P.Susheela / Chorus

Have heard both songs, but certainly not "hits".  

One of the movies where IR co-composed with MSV.  These 2 songs were by IR.  The other two were composed by MSV, including the Background Score.

As no hits could be added from that album, moving on to the next one - "kAdhal dEvadhai".

I'm not familiar with any of the numbers (based on just reading)

maRakkumA sezhum malarai kARRu maRakkumA S.P.Balasubramaniam / S.Janaki / Chorus
namakkuL yen anbE anbE yEkkam S.P.Balasubramaniam / S.Janaki
jai siranjeevi dhisai kAtta vA nee S.P.Sailaja / Chorus
yeduthu thA thayakkamO S.P.Balasubramaniam / K.S.Chithra
kaN kaNdathO yEthO mahORchavam S.P.Balasubramaniam / S.Janaki / Chorus
sammatham thanthittEn nambu S.P.Balasubramaniam / K.S.Chithra

Looks like "Telugu dubbing"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTBY6Xcp8EI


Adding a poll anyways.

app,

Jagadeka veerudu Atiloka sundari. indha telugu padam dhan kadhal devadhai dubbing. dubbing version netil dhan  kaetu iruken.

Abbani Tiyyani song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tw5BPAtPgDA


adhu dhan sammadham  thanthuten nambu...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7c-aoMHGtsM

Full film songs

https://www.google.com/search?q=jagadeka+veeru+athiloka+sundari+songs&rlz=1C1CHBD_enIN862IN862&oq=jagadeka+veeru+athiloka+sundari+songs&aqs=chrome..69i57j0i13l9.9582j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8


Telugu version. cassette kalam....... hit dhan. local cable kalam. video varadhu. paatu matum varum. Enga ooril telugu dhan. so indha
padathu paatu ellam hit dhan.

(en kanavarin  sondhakarar, indha padam parathu vittu,padam pidithu poi, Raja music pidithu poi, (Great Raja Fan he is),
veetuku vandhu , kadhai, raja bgm ellam solli,  kandipaga padam parunga endru solli vittu ponar. (padam parka time illai. padam parka mudiyavillai.innum parkavillai.. paatu parthu iruken.Rajavin isai arumai... characters... feelings etc.. ellam....Rajavirku pidithu poi isai amaithu irupar.)

Usha wrote:

Telugu version. cassette kalam....... hit dhan. local cable kalam. video varadhu. paatu matum varum. Enga ooril telugu dhan. so indha
padathu paatu ellam hit dhan.

nanRi Usha akkA! Today I listened to the songs on youtube and could recognize a couple of Telugu originals that I've heard.

Actually one of the songs got plagiarized by Anand-Milind in Hindi and became one of their biggest hits (dhak dhak).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWuqJI_kOLQ


And the Telugu original features Sridevi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tw5BPAtPgDA


Also, another song in that album is a remake of "madhura marikkozhundhu vAsam".

Regardless of the popularity of the Telugu album, unless the TAMIL versions became hit in TN (or worldwide), we cannot count for this list. I doubt if these songs were really popular in TN those days. (It definitely did not reach me in Kerala).

Undoubtedly a grand hit album in Tollywood, but not in Tamil (because it was dubbed?).  I have heard the Abbani Teeyani Tamil version on Radio just once.  Other than that, nothing much to say.  Sad to see yet another album getting washed out.

Speaking of blatant lifts, there are a LOT of songs from IR that made to Bollywood via plagiarizers.  

Saathiya thune kya kiya, My love meri priyatama, Tu tu tu tara, Neele neele ambar, Dhak dhak, Tap tap tapori, Chandni raati hai, O priya priya (Dil), Paayalein chun mun, the entire album Vansh, Jaane jaan, Kya mausam etc.  

Some background scores of IR have also been copied by Bollywood music directors with negligible / "minor changes".

Anand-Milind and Anu Malik were in the fore-front and were the most notorious.  Anand-Milind duo in the early 1990s even proudly stated that they were unashamed of copying from their idol (IR)!  Courtesy: Filmfare/Stardust magazines.

Director Suresh Krishna in a recent interview with Baradwaj Rangan said that he (for the remake of 'Prema' - "Love", starring Revathy and Salman Khan) "wanted" the song "Eenaade edho ayyindhi" in Hindi, and so it became "Saathiya thune kya kiya" (credited for Anand-Milind).  How unfair.  It looks like copyrights etc. were totally NON-existent those days.  Disgusting!  

If you had watched L. Subramaniam's interview of IR, LS would have mentioned something regarding this.  His wife Kavita Krishnamurthy had once asked SPB how the latter was able to finish recording the song barely 30 minutes after his entry into the studio.  SPB had replied "These are songs of Ilayaraja.  These (Hindi) music directors simply take them, change something here or there and pass it off as their own.  Since I already knew these songs very well, it is easier for me to breeze through the recording in half-hour".

And yet, umpteen years later, when IR was trying to set things right, he was mercilessly bullied by all and sundry, while those who were closely guarding their music and those who actually copied from IR escaped unscathed!  Despicable people.

Super Post BC

Thank you.

As per the general consensus, let me leave out the 'kAdhal dEvadhai' album (which was super hit in Telugu desam but not in TN)

Adding a new poll, for "kavidhai pAdum alaigaL".

Only the vAn nilA thEn nilA song title appears to be familiar to me (i.e. the song plays in my head when I read the line), I need to listen to the songs...

sAmiyai vENdikittu namma sangathi kELu piLLai	Gangai Amaran / K.S.Chithra
unnai kANAmal nAn yEthu	Arunmozhi / K.S.Chithra
kARRum poovum pAdum pAttu kAthil kEtkiRathA	K.S.Chithra
vAn nilA thEn nilA vAdai poo nilA	Mano / K.S.Chithra
thookkudA thookudA pallAkkuthAn	Malaysia Vasudevan / S.N.Surendar / Kovai Soundarajan
kaNNE yen kaNmaNiyE	Mano / K.S.Chithra

Voted for Unnai kaanaamal, Kanne en kanmaniye and Vaan nilaa.

I am sure that Unnai kaanaamal is the MOST-played song in the album (TV and Radio; In fact, it was a regular number on AIR).  Easily an eyesore of an album.  In case, anyone here has not watched this song, PLEASE do yourself a favor and DO NOT attempt to watch the song.  You will end up with a severe heartache!

A little surprised to see that Kanne en has more views (3 M+) on YouTube, followed by Vaan nilaa.

But, the views for Unnai kaanaamal are split between multiple videos for the same song.  It is actually a bane for IR songs because if ONE source was there (preferably the IR-O channel), the views for each song could easily run to millions for every song.  Unfortunately, IR songs on the Internet are all over the place.

I wish Kaatrum poovum is also included - a beautiful composition; but sadly it falls under least-popular category.

BC wrote:Voted for Unnai kaanaamal, Kanne en kanmaniye and Vaan nilaa.

Oh yes, now I listened to the songs and totally agree with these 3 choices - definitely listened to these many times on buses during my 90s trips in TN

Especially the Arunmozhi song too frequently to my irritation  I love KSC's singing, however!

Adding those 3 hit songs from that movie starring newcomers (who never made it big in TF):

#1211 unnaikkANAmal nAn Edhu (KSC-Arunmozhi duet, kavidhai pAdum alaigaL)
Sweet number, especially KSC at her peak! As mentioned many times before, I'm not a fan of Napoleon's singing - regardless of the greatest regard I have for his perfection on kuzhal

#1212 vAn nilA thEn nilA vAdaippoo nilA (KSC-Mano duet, kavidhai pAdum alaigaL)
Another sweet number and here too KSC excels with Mano playing a supporting role. Prior to internet era, I think I've heard this song only on buses!

#1213 kaNNE en kaNmaNiyE (KSC-Mano duet, kavidhai pAdum alaigaL)
Another sweet duet with KSC excelling!

I'll be adding ALL the songs from the next 2 albums in this list without poll (as they were super hit albums / movies and reached beyond TN - many of them popular to this day)!

#1214 enna pAduvadhu (IR with chorus, kELadi kaNmaNi)
What a lovely fun song, with a lot of enthu by rAsA

#1215 kaRpoora bommai onRu (PS solo, kELadi kaNmaNi)
Evergreen classic - the moment PS starts the humming one gets goosebumps! She being "HMV" for me (M for mother) a great personal favorite as well!

#1216 nee pAthi nAn pAthi kaNNE (UR-KJY duet, kELadi kaNmaNi)
Another fantastic classic! Praised this song with superlative comments many times on forum posts! "இருட்டில் கூட இருக்கும் நிழல் நான்" is a beautiful example of "இல்பொருள் உவமை அணி" - a Vaali classic!

#1217 thenRal thAn thingaL thAn (KSC-KJY duet, kELadi kaNmaNi)
Superbly orchestrated delight - I always wonder how anyone can do justice to such compositions on screen - very tough to choreograph for such rhythms (and as expected, it is not great on screen)

#1218 vAraNam Ayiram (SJ solo, kELadi kaNmaNi)
Excellent singing by SJ - I believe there is also a SPB version but I don't think it was in my cassette, just mentioning it here.

#1219 thaNNiyila nananjA ithu thangam ena jolikkum (UR solo, kELadi kaNmaNi)
Not sure if this got picturized - but the song was popular nevertheless!

#1220 maNNil inthakkAdhal inRi (SPB solo, kELadi kaNmaNi)
Top number from the album obviously   Popular for multiple reasons (SPB on-screen being one) including the dubious breathless singing!

#1221 ada veettukku veettukku vAsappadi vENum (IR solo, kizhakku vAsal)
Example of innovation - how a small portion of a movement from a WCM piece can superbly be dramatically transformed into a TN folk song!

#1222 vandhathE O kungumam (KSC with chorus, kizhakku vAsal)
Terrific number by KSC - popular to this day!

#1223 pAdippaRandha kiLi pAda maRandhadhadi (SPB solo, kizhakku vAsal)
Reminds me of the untimely demise of the great singer

#1224 pachcha malappoovu nee uchchi malaththEnu (SPB solo, kizhakku vAsal)
My top fav song from the album and an endless repeat song on drives!

#1225 thaLukki thaLukki vandhu (SPB solo, kizhakku vAsal)
Another super hit song from the album, always on buses and other PA systems!

With those phenomenal albums covered, now let me add a poll for the next one (which I wasn't familiar those days) - kumbakkarai thangaiyA

 

yennai oruvan pAda sonnAn [Title Song]	ilaiyaRaaja / Dheeban Chakaravarthy
pAttu unnai izhukuthA	S.P.Balasubramaniam / S.Janaki / Chorus
poothu poothu kulunguthadi	S.P.Balasubramaniam / Uma Ramanan / Chorus
thendRal kARRE (Two versions)	Mano / S.Janaki duet and SJ solo
kumbam karai sErtha thangaiyA	S.P.Balasubramaniam / S.Janaki / Chorus
koodalooru kuNdu malli	Malaysia Vasudevan / K.S.Chithra / Chorus
santhana mAriye [koottathilE kuninju nikkiRa kuruvammA]	Malaysia Vasudevan / K.S.Chithra / T.S.Ragavendar

Video jukebox here (with 2 mn+ views) - and people are vehemently supporting in twitter that all songs were hit in this album
(Only I was ignorant of this album in early 90's - i.e. until I came to tfmpage.com)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zr_lg6sSSUU

I was about to express my horror over having this album for a poll!  Anyway, the album is hugely popular (even on Radio - both AIR, Ceylon - and Television).  Such a stunning folk album like Karagaattakkaaran.  Now, that is a FOLK album.  Maybe, the title song (Ennai oruvan) was less popular; otherwise, it should easily be an album-takeaway, just like the previous Kizhakku Vaasal and Keladi Kanmani.  Hat-trick!

Who listened to Cibaca/Binaca Geethamaalai on Sundays 4-5 p.m. on AIR?  

The songs Thendral kaatre, Poothu poothu and Paattu onna?  These 3 songs vied with each other to take the first spot week after week!  Such was the popularity of this album.

Well, let me get the KKT songs here quickly (though already I've offended many 90's IRFs by hosting a poll for this album)...

#1226 ennai oruvan pAdachchonnAn (IR solo, kumbakkarai thangaiyA)
Title song - possibly following the immense popularity of the karagAttakkAran album - with direct references to IR / GA et al

#1227 pAttu unnai izhukkudhA (SJ-SPB duet, kumbakkarai thangaiyA)
The top singer pair for IR duets gets one more in this album and effortlessly done the tough song!

#1228 pooththu pooththu kulungudhadi (UR-SPB duet, kumbakkarai thangaiyA)
Though SPB had 3 hit songs in this album, it was a big miss on my part that none got cataloged in the IR-SPB-hits thread that I ran for months on the hub (tfmpage / mayyam). This should have been there!

#1229 thenRal kAtRE thenRal kAtRE (Two versions - SJ/Mano duet and SJ solo, kumbakkarai thangaiyA)
My top fav in this album that ran 100's of times on repeat mode during drives! The misra nadai sweet delight! Solo is not much different from duet and thus and didn't give 2 counts in this case.

#1230 kumbam karai sErththa thangaiyA (SJ-SPB with chorus, kumbakkarai thangaiyA)
Nice folk number - obviously IR's forte and he could have done this in a few minutes IMHO!

#1231 koodaluru gundu malli (KSC-MV duet, kumbakkarai thangaiyA)
Another energetic as well as sweet number - only IR possible!

#1232 koottaththilE kuniju nikkiRa kuruvammA (KSC-MV with TS Ragavendar, kumbakkarai thangaiyA)
Group song and another energetic number!

WOW, how many "full album hits" in this 1990!

Let me now add a poll for the next one, madurai veeran enga sAmi :

pottu vachchu poo mudicha poNNugaLE Malaysia Vasudevan / Chorus
thangamE yenga kongu nAttukku Arunmozhi / Sunandha / K.S.Chithra / Chorus
Athu mEdu kaLathu mEdu Malaysia Vasudevan / Chorus
rAngiyuLLa rANi Malaysia Vasudevan / Mano / S.N.Surendar / Chorus
mAmAvai pAththu poNNai kattu S.P.Balasubramaniam / Chorus

app_engine wrote:Well, let me get the KKT songs here quickly (though already I've offended many 90's IRFs by hosting a poll for this album)...

WOW, how many "full album hits" in this 1990!

Let me now add a poll for the next one, madurai veeran enga sAmi 

That is like just another day in the life of IR!

As for Madurai Veeran Enga Saami, none was a "hit", though Maamaava paathu and Thangame could be considered somewhat familiar.  All are good numbers, IMHO; my favorite is Maamaava paathu.

Here is the album, incase, anyone wants to listen to ALL of the songs: https://friendstamilmp3.net/Album/A-ZMovieSongs/Madurai%20Veeran%20Enga%20Saami 

YouTube has only the Thangame song.