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Post  Raaga_Suresh Thu Mar 21, 2013 7:35 am

Super writeup Jai. Love this song though my all time fav from the album is Rita's number 'unnai pathi sonnal'.

"Now that all the dust of 2009 has settled down - let me state the obvious - Madhiya chennai is one monstrous album."

itha chonna nambala....

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Post  rajkumarc Fri Mar 22, 2013 8:36 am

Superb writeup Jai applause I heard that the movie also had really good background score, have to watch it sometime. Like Suresh, I love Unnai Patri Sonnal for its jazz flourishes and Reeta's lovely singing.

Of late, I have been predominantly listening to IR's recent albums - Ponnar Shankar and Mayilu. Absolutely wonderful albums.

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Post  app_engine Fri Mar 22, 2013 7:44 pm

Listening to the whole 'aRuvadai nAL' album now Smile

http://www.thiraipaadal.com/album.php?ALBID=ALBIRR00058&lang=en

For many years, have been listening to only 'dEvanin kOvil' song...but there are other interesting songs in that movie as well and I'm listening to them after a very long time...

'chinnappoNNu chinnappoNNu' has a mild 'poongARRu thirumbumA' style but the interesting part is the singer combo :

MV / SJ & VJ Surprised

'mELaththai mellaththattu' - lovely drum work in this SJ-MV duet!

pullarips listening to 'OlakkuruththOla kAththula Adudhu' SJ solo! Lovely song!

Then there's this exquisite rAsA-sung number 'oru kAviyam aRangErum nEram'! (Lovely tablA work for the pallavi in northie style)

The 'vAkkappattu' number by MV that mildly fuses church stuff to nAttuppuRa base is quite interesting...

Definitely some special work rAsA did for Shivaji productions Wink

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Post  V_S Mon Mar 25, 2013 6:00 pm

I woke up to the songs of Mayilu today, especially this one running non-stop. Fantastically fantastic composition! Starts with a bright nagaswaram and thavil.
I loved chinna ponnu's rendition and her display of innocence in 'ம் ...கும் வீச்சருவா சீதனமாக்கும் ??' and 'என்னடா இழுவ ஆடற மாதிரி கொட்டுங்கடா'. kuththu'na ithallavO kuththu. The flute coming out in the first interlude stamps the soul in the composition. Wonderful melody and beautifully structured. The joy, ecstasy whatever you call it, we have it here. First time watching the video today. Nice one!.



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Post  kiru Tue Mar 26, 2013 3:11 am

Re: ooru vittu ooru vandhu - what a fun song !!! MV is surely missed. (BTW, Gladiator must be one of the most popular soundtracks with TN MDs and TV channels - hear ending of sai vignesh video)
Fantastic writeup Jai - I did not notice the hip hop beat before. Maybe this is what gives it a modern twist.
Mayilu - is surely a very good album (and Dhoni). Prakash Rai/j should also be considered as one of the directors with a good music sense. Because of the genre he is not getting a wider popular hit. He should try a modern/contemporary subject and he will probably join the likes of GVM etc in the music sense dept.

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Post  V_S Tue Mar 26, 2013 3:39 am

Jai,
Wonderful write-up! the clap Mathiya Chennai is a fabulous album. Thanks for bringing this up. I was also surprised by the second interlude guitar and mridangam, wonderfully weaved. Great discovery on hip-hop. The thing with Raja is unless you take a second look (as nothing is on your face), we tend to miss these features and just conclude as just another song. But once we discover, it never leaves us.

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Post  jaiganesh Tue Mar 26, 2013 3:53 am

V_S wrote:Jai,
Wonderful write-up! the clap Mathiya Chennai is a fabulous album. Thanks for bringing this up. I was also surprised by the second interlude guitar and mridangam, wonderfully weaved. Great discovery on hip-hop. The thing with Raja is unless you take a second look (as nothing is on your face), we tend to miss these features and just conclude as just another song. But once we discover, it never leaves us.

I forgot to mention the eccentric guitar that preceded the single violin which does the shape shifting between rock to carnatic styles. That sound is so often heard in the pop era - but not with this twang... zimply superb..

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Post  jaiganesh Tue Mar 26, 2013 4:02 am

in that same song.. special mention about how chorus and lead singers counterpoint each other nicely..

Lead singer: hi heels poattu takkku bukku endru adiyeduthu..
Chorus: ...................................................................adi yeduththu.
Lead Singer: message illaadha esemes pola paechu koduththu
Chorus: ....................................................................paechu koduththu koduththu..

The synchro effect this has makes this song too cool.

and someone must write more about the sliding electric guitar (similar to poattu vaiththa kaadhal thittam) that keeps humming along in
"yaenda dei unakku sollaama theriyaadhaa?"
and special awards to the lady singers in the first stanzaa They rock the boat when they sing "yaendi kasthuri .." and blitz in chennai slang all the way to "Aatha aathaa kuppaathaa" - adhu enna rappO stylO - sooperabu.

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Post  plum Wed Mar 27, 2013 5:34 am

My shame-faced confession: Mayilu is a monster.*

*periya budukkAttum pEsinalla pOna varusham

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Post  jaiganesh Wed Mar 27, 2013 6:28 am

plum wrote:My shame-faced confession: Mayilu is a monster.*

*periya budukkAttum pEsinalla pOna varusham
aii idhu kooda nalla irukke "mayil monster" or "monster mayilu" hong kong padam maadhiri aaidudhu illa?

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Post  endrum_raja Tue Apr 02, 2013 10:27 am

Hi All,

I am a new member to this wonderful forum but silently reading from Nov'12 onwards. Very excited to read all the great posts by eminent writers like a_e, v_s, jaiganesh, suresh to name a few though i like all members writings.

I didn't know from where to start, so posting my song of the moment right now is "Vaa Pon Mayile" from Poondhalir. I really love the way SPB Sir singing so effortlessly for the MAESTRO's tune.

Looking forward to learn more from this forum.

Thanks,
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Post  app_engine Tue Apr 02, 2013 2:58 pm

வருக, வருக !

நல்வரவு ராஜேஷ் (endrum_raja) !

BTW, I'm only a poster (otti), unlike the real writers that you've mentioned in your post Smile

You'll also enjoy Plum's writings (getting fewer nowadays, please check the Malayalam films thread in the Indian films section, terrific ones)!

Please keep posting your favourite numbers...'vA pon mayilE' is an all-time-fav to me, especially the end of saraNam to pallavi connect - WOW!

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Post  Raaga_Suresh Tue Apr 02, 2013 3:44 pm

Welcome Rajesh. Please do write regularly.

My song of the moment is 'anal thanil'. In the other thread Mythila and I agreed that the choice of Bhavadharini for this song was not optimal, to put it mildly Smile Still, the song is amazing for the way the tune flows, both in the pallavi and especially in the charanam. Really a sad thing that the song went totally unnoticed.

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Post  endrum_raja Tue Apr 02, 2013 4:22 pm

Thanks, app SIR and Suresh Ji.

Yeah, Plums writings have always very enjoyable to read.

Suresh, will do post frequently as people here have inspired me to start writing.

You are correct Suresh that lots of MAESTRO's songs got un-noticed because of various unknown reasons.

But that didn't deter us to unearth those golden numbers as you have mentioned in 90's thread.

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Post  V_S Tue Apr 02, 2013 4:59 pm

Rajesh,
Welcome to our forum Smile Wishing you a pleasant stay and please write often. Thanks for reminding vaa ponmayilE. Recently I sang this song in one karoake party (with kannada friends) and they were astonished (of course not by my singing) by the composition. I played them the original to show the difference. Smile

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Post  app_engine Tue Apr 02, 2013 5:35 pm

Listening to 'enakkuththA un uyirai enakkuththA' non-stop (Vinyl thread effect Embarassed)

Thoroughly enjoyable : http://www.thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer.asp?sngs='SNGIRR4013'&lang=en

(vElaikkAran, BSS , guitar, synth, drums)

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Post  V_S Fri Apr 05, 2013 6:50 pm

oooh! I may not come back from this for a while. There are some songs where we appreciate its beauty from outside as a spectator (but he does not stay there for long), but those kind of songs doesn't last long. There are some songs where we become the core and the song revolves around us, so we don't want any chance of escape. By revolving, it also shapes and cures us. We are arrested by its intrinsic beauty. Almost every Raja song is like that. Even more interesting fact is the joy you get when you sing along or hum along by vanishing ourselves in its intricate beauty. This is that song.

Maestro brings the climate right from the first note. With S Janaki's humming and trees dancing to the heavy wind, we can feel the chillness in the same way the lady in love would have felt having left her lover. Even when words fail to describe her state of mind, there is always one word to even describe that; oomai, which gives a wonderful start to the song. oomai nenjin OsaigaL kaadhil kELaadhO. Maestro again proves why he is a genius when it comes to the structuring the melody. You need not have multiple anu-pallavi lines to give the depth in the tune. Just one line is sufficient. Vairamuthu fills it up effectivtely; manam thaangumO imai thoongumO. With just this one line, how he brilliantly connects to pallavi.

The call and response between violins and flute in the first interlude mimic their mind. They converse with each other even when they were physically present together. The guitar chords which ends the second interlude; Magical hands! Absolute magic!!

Charanam starts totally contrasting to the long line pallavi. The lines are short yet continuous. It tells something. The long lines are an intial outburst, so it is long, but after that she is lost on words where we see these short phrases.

pirindhaai inbath thEnE
veruththEn ennai naanE

SPB acknowledges the same melody lines as:
enakkum adhu thaanE
kalakkam enna maanE

Hear the words how he adds bhaavam in 'enna maanE'. Why SPB is God of singing! Then comes again the long phrase when the mind connect together again. The melody goes to unreachable heights here. Beautiful swing in the melody which makes us sing this line repeatedly.

(F)nee illaamal nadandhu pOga kaalgaL illaiyE
(M)kanavilEnum kadidham pOdu kaadhal mullaiyE (beautiful line by VM!)

If that sweetness is not enough Maestro adds :
(F)
unnai kaaNum andha naaL varai
uRangaadhu indha thaamarai

It is amazing to hear how Maestro tunes a line to put them (their minds) to sleep (please note the same line in 2nd charanam; kaNNE uRangu kanavai vazhangu)
(M)
unnai ninaindhaen uyiraich chumandhEn (superb finish by VM again - uyirai sumandhEn!)
indha oomai nenjin OsaigaL kaadhil kaeLaadhO

The way SPB and SJ sings, it is like a mind war or competition between lovers who sings the best and who has the best tune (like who has more affection towards each other). A tune to die for! It goes way beyond our imagination with unexpected twists and turns but it never loses focus or the sweetness. When you sing these lines, you will feel how complicated the tune is yet how gentle it is! The 'sugam' you get when you sing cannot be described. When we forget ourselves, that's when Maestro shapes us like a sculptor and we becoming artifacts of his music.




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Post  Raaga_Suresh Sun Apr 07, 2013 5:35 am

/Digression. Please pardon

app, V_S, kiru

I am in US now till Thursday. Can be reached at 1-702-796-9300 Room 2024. Generally after 8pm (Pacific Time) I should be in the room. Call if you get time.

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Post  jaiganesh Sun Apr 07, 2013 9:46 am

Raaga_Suresh wrote:/Digression. Please pardon

app, V_S, kiru

I am in US now till Thursday. Can be reached at 1-702-796-9300 Room 2024. Generally after 8pm (Pacific Time) I should be in the room. Call if you get time.

/End Digression
ptnna enga? bay areava?

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Post  Raaga_Suresh Sun Apr 07, 2013 2:39 pm

Jai,

No saare. In Vegas for NAB Show. Here till Thus. Are you in Bay Area? If possible give a call anytime in the evening post 8pm. Should be in the room.

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Post  app_engine Sun Apr 07, 2013 4:37 pm

Raaga_Suresh wrote:
In Vegas ...anytime in the evening post 8pm. Should be in the room.
Is your name "old monk Smile
j/k

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Post  Raaga_Suresh Mon Apr 08, 2013 4:47 pm

app,

Smile nelama appadi Sad

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Post  V_S Sun Apr 14, 2013 5:50 pm

Every song in this film is something extra-ordinary in terms of melody alone. He is definitely uttering a statement here through these compositions when people have started moving away slowly, but it was unfortunate no one were even ready to hear these everlasting gems and what Maestro was trying to tell; mEgangaL maraithaalum medhuvaaga vilagum vELai varalaam maanE then. I believe that’s why we are here listening to it.

This is a dream song for anyone to sing like the way SPB sang. From the way song starts (in a semi-classical mode) we can never guess that this interlude belongs to this song. We have heard prelude for songs, but this is a very special precursor to the song in the form of thogaiyaraa (not the video below). Once this is over, we hear a faint female voice of his mother giving a wonderful lead to the song; haunting portion of the song.

When SPB starts (hear that awesome guitar chords!) we expect Maestro will continue and complete the pallavi, but again he springs a surprise by having a mini-prelude before the actual pallavi starts. The prelude chords are mesmerizing. For the first time flute goes up and for the second time it beautifully descends down, pumping a whole lot soul into the composition. My eyes automatically get wet listening to the flute. So soothing to hear that flute. The flute consoles every line of his singing who is singing remembering his mother. Sweet pallavi. I love the way flute ends giving the lead to interludes. wow!

Maestro switches from live instruments to synth in the interludes before returning to live instruments during charanams. Definitely it would have been better if he would have used live instruments, especially for this song (where emotions are abound), as we can hear the whole sound is kind of smeared which takes the emotions out of the song. This is also an example or a demo from Maestro on how synth sometimes could kill the weather of a song. But all these concerns are totally outdone by one of the most sweetest charanams ever composed.

What a start to the charanam! vaazhum kOvil deivangaL unai kaaakka vEnduvEn, soozhum nOi kaakka vEndi theeyaikkooda thaanduvEn Maestro increases the sweetness in every line. I am equally amazed at the lyricist (I think it is Vaali sir?) how he wrote the first two words above. In the first line he writes two complete words 'vaazhum kOvil' while in the second line for the same tune, he writes 'soozhum nOi ka' as he could not complete the whole 'kaakka' for the same sandham, yet there is no break in the words when SPB sings, and catches the remaining of kaakka; 'akka' and adds cleverly to a shorter word 'vEndi' so that it is in sync with the sandham. Great precision in getting the right words knowing that it will not break the words while singing. Wow! Every time I listen to these two lines, I am mesmerized by it. Very difficult to write such lines! Hats off to the lyricist!

When SPB sings this line; 'manam pOla vaazhvellaam varum endru nambu, theLivaaga nee selvaai ethir kaaalam undu', I can only gaze at Maestro on such a beautiful tune and the way SPB has given life to the song. When I sing this line, the amount of satisfaction I get is abound. After this free-flowing line, how he finishes the last line; mEgangaL maraithaalum medhuvaaga vilagum vELai varalaam maanE thEnE, flabbergasted to say the least!

SPB can never be matched when it comes to singing these kind of songs. I can sing the charanam lines continuously and still don't get tired, what a beauty in those lines! No one can compose such a outstanding honey dripping melody with lots and lots of depth. A classic of all time!

True lines of Maestro; thaai thantha aruLaalE naan indru mElE pirar ingu keezhE amma amma!



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Post  Raaga_Suresh Mon Apr 15, 2013 3:32 am

V_S,

Lovely number. The songs in that movie are class.

Now listening to this rare gem of Janaki. I haven't heard this song earlier. Was posted by Raj in facebook.

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Post  V_S Mon Apr 15, 2013 6:11 am

Thanks Sureshji. Smile

I had posted about vanna vanna poonchOlaiyil in rare songs thread in February. The beauty is Rajesh (RajsMed) had uploaded along with the titles which is very interesting to hear both consecutively.
https://ilayaraja.forumms.net/t82-ir-rare-songs#5273

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