Re: Manadhil oru paattu - Song of the moment - Vol 1

Bala (Karthik) Sat Dec 15, 2012 11:18 pm

NEPV album.

SenthilVinu Sun Dec 16, 2012 2:38 am

V_S wrote:We are listening to various kinds of music daily, albums and songs are releasing daily. As Maestro says, music directors need not meet, they have to question and answer through their music. To me, I am still searching for answers to this wonderful piece of music all around. I have never been so moved listening to any piece of music as this one. With visuals it multiplies a lot. Maestro has used just one line of Sri Rama Lera (dheeramathiyai nyaaya pathiyai yelu raghupathiyai) and built this whole theme of 1:30 minute piece of music. If you find answers to this one, please let me know. I bet you can't.
http://www.fileden.com/files/2012/9/16/3348123/07-Ramas%20Last%20Glance.mp3

I have written in little detail about it here. I was reading my post today as suddenly this music struck me. When I read the last paragraph, without my knowledge, I could not control myself. I am posting it not to boast, only to share that precious moment with you all.
http://maestroworld.wordpress.com/2012/11/18/sri-rama-rajyam-ramas-last-glance/

Please don't miss watching the visuals as you hear the music. My night will be spent with this score and Sri Rama Lera (also included in that post). We may vanish, earth may vanish still the soul in that song (which is that 1:30 minute score) will sound as long as the last bit of ether is present.

Read your blog. Great research and analysis. Raja is so great in connecting some of this simple ideas. Enjoyed it.

**V_S** Mon Dec 17, 2012 8:30 pm

Thanks Senthil. Smile

Was listening to my semi-classical playlist. KoondhalilE megham vanthu and Mandhiram ithu. At the surface of it, it looks a pure classical and even devotional (if we don't concentrate on lyrics), but inside (the lyrics), avvaLavum 'attuzhiyam', very very naughty! Eppadi intha maathiri divine tune'kku intha maathiri lyrics ezhutha mudhichuthu. BhagavanE! Laughing

Definitely I got fooled by the start Mandhiram Ithu, but during charanams... Another surprising thing about this song is it is the title song. Other songs in this movie are totally unrelated to this classical number, need to see why Maestro composed such a title song again for the movie where all other songs are quite different. Incidentally this film again is based on sea-shore and its people.

**V_S** Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:22 pm

Kadha Thudarunnu, Sneha veedu and Puthiya TheerangaL back to back. Every one of them is a classic! Most of them are haunting! Some of them are too emotional! None of them can be skipped!

app_engine Wed Dec 19, 2012 1:50 am

One song leads to another (i.e. in youtube) Smile

From 'pAda vandhadhO gAnam' (for the IR-PS thread), I got directed to another Sasikala song that happened to be a Telugu version of 'rAsAvE onna kANAtha nenju kAththAdi pOlAduthE', sung by SJ :-)
(Orchestration ditto, possibly using the "track")

youtube here:

jaiganesh Wed Dec 19, 2012 8:15 pm

Stumbled on to Manjal Poosum from Chakkarai devan.
From the starting of the pallavi - it is an intriguing song - the song starts out plain and simple - but soon the anu pallavi kicks in and the
connection to the unborn child of thaLabadhi - the bhanupriya - Rajini consummation song Puthambudhu poo pooththadho dawns.
This cousin of that song bears the same emotional heaviness the unpicturized beauty has. The 'heaviness' is probably a result of a love
that triumphs obstacles as hinted by 'kaaval yaedhu, kattukkaL yaedhu' line. Malaysia surprisingly has been thrust with the job of performing this
tight rope walk of a song with Janaki and any given day I would have said 'Bad choice" - but in here he makes the perfect rendition possible and surprised me totally - sometimes even trumping Janaki!!
Special attention should be paid to the tabla in the interludes - this is called "dancing on the edge of knife" - extremely dicey..
Honest - have you seen the movie and the song? can you add more to this?

**plum** Wed Dec 19, 2012 8:18 pm

Don't talk about the picturisation. Now, Imagine Captain in veshti, with his typical viraha expression. Imagine suganya doing her kONa vAi sEshtai(vekkamAmAm). Imagine Captain and Suganya thus attired and facially postured and purandufying in sagadhi.

Do you want the youtube link? my help?

jaiganesh Wed Dec 19, 2012 8:29 pm

yoav unnai kaettena?
honastai thaane kaetten.. Rasikkaravanaala dhaan rasikka mudiyin..
it was an erotica song with no 'mukkals munagals' - that is why i asked honest to fill in some details..
eteeb link ippudu choodaaniki veellaedhu.. tharavaatha choosthaanu. post cheyyandi - yaempramaadham laedhu.

**plum** Wed Dec 19, 2012 8:37 pm

mukkaNNarE, yAm kuRai kaNdadhu pAttil alla? "poruL"il Smile

Bala (Karthik) Thu Dec 20, 2012 6:57 pm

Sopper singer oru madhiri Ippo Swamigal paatta cover panraan. Paavatha kazhuva voip. The orchestra is also much better than the one they used to have

Bala (Karthik) Thu Dec 20, 2012 7:02 pm

Poongaatre Konjam - Friends

jaiganesh Thu Dec 20, 2012 7:57 pm

Bala (Karthik) wrote:Poongaatre Konjam - Friends

innnum siththa solradhu..
hariharan excels in raaja songs if the song has a ghazalish or hindusthani feel to it..
Even 'en mana vaanil' from kaasi had a distinct old world hindi feel to it..

**plum** Thu Dec 20, 2012 8:16 pm

You may be on to something there Jai...though I HATE en mana vaanl(and other Kasi songs) from the bottom of my heart - not indifference, but plain HATE, it triggers something deeply "Nandu" in me - I can immediately think of AAro Paddunnu dhoore as corroborating your theory.

Bala (Karthik) Thu Dec 20, 2012 8:26 pm

jaiganesh wrote:
Bala (Karthik) wrote:Poongaatre Konjam - Friends
innnum siththa solradhu..
hariharan excels in raaja songs if the song has a ghazalish or hindusthani feel to it..
Even 'en mana vaanil' from kaasi had a distinct old world hindi feel to it..

Correct sir. I'm a fan of Kasi songs(fan strong word but thol kudukkaren nu vechukkuvome).
Love the tune and singing. Like this chakravaham more than nee paadhi naan paadhi kanne

**plum** Thu Dec 20, 2012 8:30 pm

Bala - enakku ennamO Kasi songs pidikkalai. Karigaran might be a reason...basically, the simple percussion instrument in en mana vaanil, is it the same as the one in "ammamA thambi endru nambi" from Rajapart Rangadurai? (Similar?)

That's one song with barely a tune in the saranams, yet absolutely love it. NT and Kannadasan might have a lot to do with it but a fairly unique song from MSV.

(enakku that song always gnAbagam varum en mana vaanil kekkarachE - though the two tunes have no snAna prApthi - thats why the reference)

jaiganesh Thu Dec 20, 2012 9:08 pm

plum wrote:You may be on to something there Jai...though I HATE en mana vaanl(and other Kasi songs) from the bottom of my heart - not indifference, but plain HATE, it triggers something deeply "Nandu" in me - I can immediately think of AAro Paddunnu dhoore as corroborating your theory.

that song is a looose song - konjam illai nerayave izuthu paadara singer only can connect the dots and make sense of the composition... andha 'ormai vannu or umma tharum pole' - what a landing and hari acquits rather well in handling that toughie.

app_engine Thu Dec 20, 2012 9:28 pm

'ArO pAdunnu dhoorE' - KSC is malai & HH madu, IMVHO Smile

ivarukku bayandhukkittu pala nAL nAn karoke mattum kEttrukkEn Embarassed

KSC is atomic precision - what a talent!

nALellAm kEttukkittE irukkalAm...

**V_S** Thu Dec 20, 2012 9:38 pm

me too. Malayalam Raja for the past two days (it will extend for many days). Hariharan sang amruthamayi (may be again pronunciation he might have slipped) really really well. The song really suits him well for his typical minute sangathis. Fantastic!

Mizhineeril… Mizhineeril thelivanin kanavaai nee
Mozhi thOrum puthu mannil nanavai nee
Oru palazhi pol-nenjil neeyennum

Mindi konjan vembum chundil panjamruthamaai (the way he extends maa.....aaaai!)
Chimmi chimmi minnum kannil kanni nilavaai
Janma janma theeram pulkum, mandakini nee
Prapanjangalaake niranjidum mElE (that fluttering guitar during the breaks!)
Manathaaril kathirai nee viriyenam
Oru thaarattai ennullil charu nee (that charu nee, ahA! what an ending!)

What a juicy tune and pleasing orchestration in every line! AppadiyE karanju poidlaam pOla thonuthu. Is it kalyani? Very very rich, grand but at the same time earthy and grounded.

**V_S** Fri Dec 21, 2012 5:40 am

Ovvuru note'layum evvaLavu sugam and urukkam. I am literally crying! Crying or Very sad

Mani sir, Raaja'va vittutu pOga eppadi manasu vanthathu?

**plum** Fri Dec 21, 2012 6:14 am

Ha Ha - I definitely think it good that Mani is not with IR.

However, I would just like Mani coming back to IR for one movie *now*, just so that I can enjoy the spectacle of hubbers Daddy, Lotion etc disowning Alai Paayuthae, Thiruda Thiruda etc lol!

sheepChase Fri Dec 21, 2012 6:52 am

One of *those* days, restlessly roaming around, not settling on any particular thought or a song, extreme mood swings and I miraculously and accidentally land on this song.

Repeating an old write up - Look how many emotions are conveyed here. The mystery beneath the chords, the yearning in the tune (ably propped up by the ever dependable Malaysia Vasudevan), the seduction in the female chorus (could spot Chithra and Shailaja) - the club ambiance, the loneliness, suspense and melancholy all balancing out each other and coming together fascinating and intriguing whole. Smoky, Spooky and Sexy.

Whoever wrote the lyrics :thumbsup:

அசையும் அசைவுகள்
இசையின் நிழல்
அமைதி திருவிழி
இறைவனின் மடல்

ஏனென்றும் தெரியாது
ஏக்கங்கள் புரியாது
ஏற்றிய பாரம் தாங்காது
இறக்கிட நீயும் வா
ஏங்கிய உள்ளம் தூங்காது
அமைதியை மீண்டும் தா

**groucho070** Fri Dec 21, 2012 9:04 am

Aravind, this song has been appearing very frequent in my shuffle mode of IR collection (thumb drive) in my car. Been thinking about it a lot. What appears to be a normal funk/jazz number, takes on a new height when MV's vocal comes in. A goddam dance song and our man is bleeding sad! He's drowning in his sorrow and as Bono puts it, "drowning in my sorrow, but my sorrow, they learned to swim". It perfectly captured a man stuck in irretrievable past*. Loving this song more, considering I am....tooo....oh, fuck that....

*dey mundam, entha past-da retrieve panna mudiyin?

**V_S** Fri Dec 21, 2012 6:22 pm

Aravind,
Superb pick! There are zillions of emotions in that song. As you quoted, the charanam, it starts very casually, but during these lines 'ஏனென்றும் தெரியாது ஏக்கங்கள் புரியாது ஏற்றிய பாரம் தாங்காது இறக்கிட நீயும் வா ஏங்கிய உள்ளம் தூங்காது அமைதியை மீண்டும் தா', Maestro gradually builds the tune and goes for the crescendo and drops off. As the tune goes up the lyrics goes down asking for 'இறக்கிட' and 'அமைதியை'. This is one of iconic song from Maestro and for MV and impossible to conceive by anyone else.

Sakalakala Vallavar Fri Dec 21, 2012 10:32 pm

http://www.thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer.asp?sngs='SNGIRR3716','SNGIRR3717'&lang=en

Thanks Raaga Suresh in twitter! In his words -> "Brilliant. This is how you combine western instrumentation with a local tune"

sheepChase Sat Dec 22, 2012 8:16 pm

groucho070 wrote: A goddam dance song and our man is bleeding sad! He's drowning in his sorrow and as Bono puts it, "drowning in my sorrow, but my sorrow, they learned to swim".

groucho - yeah, perfect!

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