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Post  app_engine Tue Mar 26, 2013 10:06 pm

OK, after that somewhat sophi number, let's have a themmAngu.

Not just a typical folk number but a TRIBAL folk one.

We probably discussed about this "tribal" word in the hub as to how it charges up rAsA Laughing If a director is smart, all that he needs to do is simply whisper to rAsA, that this song situation is among tribal people! And voilA! that'll be a surefire guarantee of a nuclear explosion in musical terms!

#56 Asaiya kAththula thoodhu vittu (Johny, SPS & kuzhuvinar)

pAdal varikaL:

பல்லவி

ஆசையக்காத்துல தூது விட்டு
ஆடிய பூவுல வாடை பட்டு
சேதியக்கேட்டொரு ஜாடை தொட்டு
பாடுது பாட்டு ஒன்னு
குயில் கேக்குது பாட்டை நின்னு

சரணம் 1:

வாசம் பூவாசம் வாலிபக்காலத்து நேசம்
மாசம் தை மாசம் மல்லியப்பூ மணம் வீசும்
நேசத்துல வந்த வாசத்துல
நெஞ்சம் பாடுது சோடியத்தேடுது பிஞ்சோ வாடுது வாடையில
கொஞ்சும் ஜாடையப்போடுது பார்வையும் சொந்தம் தேடுது மேடையில

சரணம் 2:

தேனோ பூந்தேனு தேன்துளி கேட்டது நானு
மானோ பொன்மானு தேயிலத்தோட்டத்து மானு
ஓடி வர உன்னைத்தேடி வர
தாழம்பூவுல தாவுற காத்துல தாகம் ஏறுது ஆசையில
பாக்கும் போதுல ஏக்கம் தீரல தேகம் வாடுது பேசையில

The song needs no intro - it fascinates even rAsA so much that he had recycled it a couple of times Embarassed In recent times, one Ajantha song had the mELam / interlude ; now gundellO gOdAri supposedly has a kuththu version. It got featured in some of his concerts. I'm sure he's proud about this number in a way similar to how he feels about 'thumbi vA'.

The words so nicely sit on the composition which takes one to a malaikkAdu. What's more, it had this Mahendran - Rajini - Ashok Kumar connection to boast about!

thiraippAdal link: http://www.thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer.asp?sngs='SNGIRR1279'&lang=en

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Post  app_engine Wed Mar 27, 2013 10:30 pm

#57 mAnguyilE poonguyilE

(karagAttakkAran - two versions, SPB solo & SPB-SJ duet)

solo: http://www.thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer.asp?sngs='SNGIRR1560'&lang=en

duet: http://www.thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer.asp?sngs='SNGIRR1559'&lang=en

This song got featured as the 300th is the IR-SPB thread of the hub, fittingly so being a landmark number. However, as in the case of many other great numbers in that thread, I failed to do the honors to the lyricist Embarassed

Interestingly, the same GA got praises as the director of the movie Smile What's more, there's this post by Vinatha (baroque) in that thread about the song, quoting a couple of lines from the duet as touching but missed mentioning the lyricist :

baroque wrote:
கால தழுவி நிக்கும் கனகமணி கொலுசு
யம்மா நானாக மாற இப்போ நெனக்குதம்மா மனசு...

உள்ள இருக்குரீக வெளிய என்ன பேச்சு...அய்யா
ஒன்னும் புரியல மனசு எங்க போச்சு...

I simply melt every time!

none knows to take care of girl's manasu like Ilayaraja & SPB

Well, can't help but bring in the Vairamuthu comparison here, whose name appears on every medium if he pens just a "forced-words-filled-grAmaththu-song" as some extraordinary achievement - while everyone chose to simply ignore a genius folk-song writer with such a beautiful command over the existing, natural, musical language of the countryside!

No forced words / elongation or doubling of syllables etc to fit the melody but terrific, almost-village-conversational kind of lines that are musical!

Let's look at the lines.

The pallavi is common for both the karagam solo & the duet:

மாங்குயிலே பூங்குயிலே சேதி ஒண்ணு கேளு
ஒன்ன மாலையிடத்தேடி வரும் நாளு எந்த நாளு
முத்து முத்துக் கண்ணாலே நான் சுத்தி வந்தேன் பின்னாலே

Like I mentioned, it's almost like a regular village boy talking to his favourite girl (well, sometimes just oogling - words implied but eyes convey / communicate) Smile Very decent lines, looking with a long term relationship (மாலையிட = marriage) and no rush to fulfill bodily stuff...satisfied with the lure of eyes to simply go after...

After the pallavi, however, the solo and duet have totally different lines. The movie situation demands that - there's no mutual "love" between the two when the solo occurs. If anything, the girl feels "left-out" from the festivities, losing out her opportunity to dance for the village festival to an outsider (because she resisted the chieftain's immoral advances). That way, she has anger and dislike for the male dancer but that fellow has already fallen in love with her, head to toe!

While dancing in the festival (basically to praise village deities and entertain people but given freedom to have his own lines, i.e. without any rigid pre-written hymn / slOgam etc) he takes advantage of the opportunity to communicate his heart to the girl, teasingly)...

[to continue in the next post]

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Post  app_engine Thu Mar 28, 2013 7:01 pm

[mAnguyilE poonguyilE continuation]

Well, as per the situational demand, the saraNams of the karagam version show some lack of softness on the male's part. Which is typical for a country ruffian who is also mildly competitive to the girl whom he is falling in love with...

Look at this youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDIU9Mc54BU


And then check these saraNam lines as to how fitting they are:

சரணம் 1

தொட்டுத்தொட்டு வெளக்கி வச்ச வெங்கலத்து செம்பு
அத தொட்டெடுத்து தலையில் வெச்சா பொங்குதடி தெம்பு

பட்டெடுத்து உடுத்தி வந்த பாண்டியரு தேரு
இப்போ கிட்ட வந்து கெளருதடி என்ன படு ஜோரு

கண்ணுக்கழகாப் பொண்ணு சிரிச்சா பொண்ணு மனச தொட்டுப் பறிச்சா
தன்னந்தனியா எண்ணி ரசிச்சா கண்ணு வல தான் விட்டு விரிச்சா
ஏறெடுத்துப்பாத்து யம்மா நீரெடுத்து ஊத்து
சீரெடுத்து வாரேன் யம்மா சேத்து என்னைத் தேத்து
முத்தையன் படிக்கும் முத்திரக்கவிக்கு நிச்சயம் பதிலு சொல்லணும் மயிலு

சரணம் 2

ஒன்ன மறந்திருக்க ஒரு பொழுதும் அறியேன்
யம்மா கன்னி மொகத்த விட்டு வேறெதையும் தெரியேன்
வங்கத்திலே வெளஞ்ச மஞ்சக் கெழங்கெடுத்து ஒரசி
யம்மா இங்குமங்கும் பூசிவரும் எழிலிருக்கும் அரசி
கூடியிருப்போம் கூண்டுக் கிளியே கொஞ்சிக்கெடப்போம் வாடி வெளியே
ஜாடை சொல்லித்தான் பாடி அழைச்சேன் சம்மதமுன்னு சொல்லு கிளியே
சாமத்திலே வாரேன் யம்மா சாமந்திப்பூத்தாரேன்
கோபப்பட்டுப் பாத்தா யம்மா வந்த வழி போறேன்
சந்தனம் கரைச்சுப்பூசணும் எனக்கு முத்தையங் கணக்கு மொத்தமும் ஒனக்கு

For one thing, the crowd will simply enjoy the festivities, enjoy the dance and song but may not pay great attention as to whether he directs the words to a specific person. (In fact most girls in that gathering could imagine themselves in the position of the lady this fellow "invites" and could get some ragasiya thrill out of it Laughing)

OTOH, the "target" will exactly get it and be thrown into all kinds of feelings. Thrilled at the special attention, enjoying the neLivu suzhivu of the pAttu ("கண்ணு வல தான் விட்டு விரிச்சா", what a nice metaphor), loves the music and dance but gets wary when there's this brash / direct invite : "சாமத்திலே வாரேன் யம்மா சாமந்திப்பூத்தாரேன்". This line is a shocker, considering the fellow started about "மாலையிடத் தேடிவரும்" but suddenly switching gears, typical of men Smile No wonder the girl shows indignation (who had earlier slapped the village chieftain himself for such one-night kind of advances).

Her sharp reaction straightens up the fellow and he does immediate "jagA vAngal" as "கோபப்பட்டுப் பாத்தா யம்மா வந்த வழி போறேன்" Laughing Such fun elements are packed without being intrusive and are so natural with the setting. iLamai, kuRumbu, chellam - all pouring out in right proportion without getting risque. Typical of the times / typical of TN countryside that had to be "lived" by someone to get it in such flowing lines.

Also to be noted is the mild transition from karagam art to love in the first saraNam Smile

Another thing to be noted is the 'state-of-the-art' language. Sometimes, one gets irritated by deliberate forcing of "cool" words to make it look like a folk song (e.g. சிறுக்கி கருப்பி செவப்பி செவல மயில etc) where it is not warranted. Also, there had been reasonable amount of "modernization" in most TN villages in 70's themselves that a good % of the population there were educated and could use a mixed style of language.

GA had perfectly understood such revisions that the folk language had undergone over the years, knows what was currently present and thus could add some sophistication too (வங்கத்திலே வெளஞ்ச மஞ்சக் கெழங்கெடுத்து ஒரசி, யம்மா இங்குமங்கும் பூசிவரும் எழிலிருக்கும் அரசி). Brilliant and fitting IMHO!

We'll contrast these "somewhat-male-chauvinistic" solo saraNams to the soft & lovely duet saranams in the next post Smile


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Post  app_engine Thu Mar 28, 2013 8:53 pm

I've quoted Vinatha's (baroque of tfmpage) post earlier and it highlighted the lovely initial lines in the first saranam of the duet.

Boy sings : காலைத் தழுவி நிக்கும் கனகமணிக் கொலுசு, யம்மா,
நானாக மாற இப்போ நெனக்குதம்மா மனசு!

(Rough interpretation : Hey girl, I so much adore you that my mind tells me I should get transformed into that anklet on your feet...that way, I'll be with you all the time, embracing your feet)

And the girl replies : உள்ளே இருக்குறிக வெளிய என்ன பேச்சு? ஐயா
ஒண்ணும் புரியவில்ல மனசு எங்கே போச்சு!

(Dear, what is this crazy talk about external contact? Aren't you firmly inside me? Oh...I'm losing my mind and can't understand what's happening inside)

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Some years back, when VM got praised phenomenally for some "unusually brilliant thoughts and ideas" by one of our co-workers, the song he cited was 'ennavaLE adi ennavaLE'. He was challenging that none had thought about such phrases / feelings in TFM before and asked to show earlier samples. I remember starting a thread in tfmpage to identify "idhaiyaththai tholaiththa songs" and there were some posts.

Little did I realize then that the main idea could be found even in this so-called dappAnguththu song from a grAmarAjan movie (see the kolusu & losing mind connection to that 'much-talked-about-sangar-cinema-song')!

The problem here is the lyricist had already metamorphosed into the director of the same movie and was too happy getting accolades for that role, flying high that he made a historic commercial success in TF history. Alas, the brilliance (and ease, no pretensions) with which he could comb words together didn't receive any attention at all Sad Eventually people even forgot who wrote such gorgeous poetry. That rAsA and bAloo were too overpowering didn't help his cause either. Well, a late but necessary recognition & realization now!

Look at the saraNam lines and see how the boy has mellowed down (from his karagam time) after falling in love. Also, how beautifully the girl reciprocates...

சரணம் 1:

காலைத் தழுவி நிக்கும் கனகமணிக் கொலுசு, யம்மா
நானாக மாற இப்போ நெனக்குதம்மா மனசு!

உள்ளே இருக்குறிக வெளிய என்ன பேச்சு? ஐயா
ஒண்ணும் புரியவில்ல மனசு எங்கே போச்சு!

இந்த மனசு நஞ்ச நெலந்தான் வந்து விழுந்த நல்ல வெத தான்
சந்திரனத்தான் சாட்சியும் வச்சு சொன்ன கத தான் சொந்தக்கத தான்

தோளைத் தொட்டு ஆற ஐயா சொர்க்கத்துல சேர
மாலை வந்து ஏற பொண்ணு சம்மதத்தக் கூற

சந்தனங்கரச்சுப் பூசணும் எனக்கு முத்தையன் கணக்கு மொத்தமும் ஒனக்கு

சரணம் 2:

மாமரத்துக் கீழே நின்னு மங்கை அவ பாட அந்த
மங்கை குரலில் மனம் மயங்கியது யாரோ

பூமரத்துக் கீழிருந்து பொண்ணு அவ குளிக்க அந்த
பூமரத்து மேலிருந்து புலம்பியது யாரோ

கன்னி மனசு ஒன்ன நெனக்கும் தன்னந்தனியே எண்ணித் தவிக்கும்
பொன்னை எடுத்து அள்ளிக் கொடுக்கும் வண்ணக் கனவு அள்ளித் தெளிக்கும்

கூரைப் பட்டுச் சேலை அம்மா கூட ஒரு மாலை
வாங்கி வரும் வேளை பொண்ணு வாசமுள்ள சோல

தாலிய முடிக்கும் வேளைய நெனச்சுத் தேடுது மனசு பாடுது வயசு

These two are still well-grounded, not in hurry to get physical but dreaming about their post-marriage union Smile GA makes sure the TN grAmaththu sentiments (well, in general - also, within the TF context) are respected and the line is not crossed. The song's phenomenal hit status proves that one doesn't need explicitly shocking words and lines (tholainju pOyittEn, avasthaippaduREn etc) to be catchy Laughing

Now let's look at the youtube :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFMsWOMyhqs


GA can be doubly proud of this song - primarily as the lyricist and then as the director!


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Post  V_S Thu Mar 28, 2013 9:54 pm

Lovely, lovely posts on maanguyilE applause the clap and more for bringing GA into limelight. Thoroughly deserving lyricist noteworthy, beautiful lines there. baroque's quote, very true.

app_engine wrote:OTOH, the "target" will exactly get it and be thrown into all kinds of feelings. Thrilled at the special attention, enjoying the neLivu suzhivu of the pAttu ("கண்ணு வல தான் விட்டு விரிச்சா", what a nice metaphor), loves the music and dance but gets wary when there's this brash / direct invite : "சாமத்திலே வாரேன் யம்மா சாமந்திப்பூத்தாரேன்". This line is a shocker, considering the fellow started about "மாலையிடத் தேடிவரும்" but suddenly switching gears, typical of men No wonder the girl shows indignation (who had earlier slapped the village chieftain himself for such one-night kind of advances).

app_engine wrote:No forced words / elongation or doubling of syllables etc to fit the melody but terrific, almost-village-conversational kind of lines that are musical!

app_engine wrote:While dancing in the festival (basically to praise village deities and entertain people but given freedom to have his own lines, i.e. without any rigid pre-written hymn / slOgam etc) he takes advantage of the opportunity to communicate his heart to the girl, teasingly)...

That's the reason IR's village based songs are more special and very close to our hearts, because of earthy and innocent quality.

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Post  app_engine Mon Apr 01, 2013 10:24 pm

nanRi, V_Sji for the appreciation!

I took the long weekend break from this thread Smile

Time to post the next song...


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Post  jaiganesh Mon Apr 01, 2013 10:39 pm

கன்னி மனசு ஒன்ன நெனக்கும் தன்னந்தனியே எண்ணித் தவிக்கும்
பொன்னை எடுத்து அள்ளிக் கொடுக்கும் வண்ணக் கனவு அள்ளித் தெளிக்கும்

i want to single this out in contrast with ..
இந்த மனசு நஞ்ச நெலந்தான் வந்து விழுந்த நல்ல வெத தான்
சந்திரனத்தான் சாட்சியும் வச்சு சொன்ன கத தான் சொந்தக்கத தான்
look at the ending of each sandham while one ends in nenaikkum its counterpart in female lyrics is "nelandhaan"
this kinda construction is quite complex and rarely to be found in spontaneous lyric writing - but GA did that set in tune
with his brother's tune development simply indicates how much he is 'musically' in tune with the song. fantastic all time great song in all angles..

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Post  app_engine Mon Apr 01, 2013 11:34 pm

#58 azhagiya nadhiyena (SPB/KSC, pAttukku oru thalaivan)

Perhaps someone told Vijayakanth that he has to have an "azhagiya" song because MGR had "azhagiya thamizh magaL ivaL". Similar advice was possibly given for the movie's title too ("sir, you got to have some movie with the thalaivan name").

Well, GA was given the task of writing the songs for this movie and perhaps specific instruction was given as to pick up some 70's MGR template for a love duet. How did GA do? Let us look at the lines :

thiraippAdal : http://www.thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer.asp?sngs='SNGIRR2591'&lang=en

(Don't even pay attention to the jumka chakka stuff, OTOH what lovely strings rAsA)

பல்லவி:

அழகிய நதியென அதில் வரும் அலையென இரு மனம் அலைவதென்ன?
விழிகளில் பலவித விரகமும் பெருகிட வழியது திறந்ததென்ன?
தேகந்தான் மோகத்தில் வாட நாளுந்தான் மோனத்தில் கூட

துள்ளும் அழகிய நதியென அதில் வரும் அலையென
இரு மனம் அலைவதென்ன?
விழிகளில் பலவித விரகமும் பெருகிட வழியது திறந்ததென்ன?

சரணம் 1:

தேடிய தேவதையே திரை மறைத்து மூடிய மாங்கனியே
ஓடிடும் காவிரியே உனை நினைத்துப் பாடிடும் இன்னிசையே

நாயகன் பூமடி மேல் நானும் பல நாடகமாட வந்தேன்
மாயவன் குழலிசையில் எனது மனம் மயங்கிய நிலையிருந்தேன்

தேரினில் ஏற வந்தேன் திசை பலவும் ஊர்வலம் போக வந்தேன்
ஊறிய இதழ்களின் தேன் எனை அழைக்க ஓடையில் நீந்த வந்தேன்

கேட்டது யாவையும் நான் தருவேன், இனிக்கேள்வி என்ன? எனை அணைத்திட


சரணம் 2:

கோடியில் நீ ஒருவன் பாடி வரும் பாட்டுக்கு ஒரு தலைவன்
கூடிடும் என் துணைவன் எனது மனக் கோவிலில் நீ இறைவன்

ஆடிடும் பெண்ணழகே ஆசைகளை ஆள்கிற பேரழகே
தூவிய பூமலர் மேல் தோளணைத்துத் தூங்கிடும் தேன் துளியே

வானகம் வையகமும் வாழ்த்த வரும் நாளினைக் கேட்டு வந்தேன்
நானுன்னை சேர வரும் நாளில் ஒரு நாட்டியமாட வந்தேன்

மெல்லிய பொன் இடை மேடையிலே அரங்கேற வரும் தமிழ் மகனடி!


I guess GA has done an adequate job of penning the perfect kanavu scene kind of duet lines, a lot of uruvagams plus not forgetting to get the movie title in place too Laughing

youtube : (no good quality one available)



BTW, this song got a special coverage in the SPB-IR thread :

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Post  app_engine Tue Apr 02, 2013 1:19 pm

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(in twitter) :

dagalti wrote:
I bet most of us attributed these songs to someone else. Cringe for the ignorance, thank @r_inba and wow @ GA

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Post  V_S Tue Apr 02, 2013 8:07 pm

List of films GA worked with IR. Please let me know the missing ones. I remember nchokkan saying GA had written for 230-240 films of IR. Also app ji, if possible, you can even take this and edit as the first post of this thread.

1 chidambarathil oru appasamy
2 annan
3 thodarum
4 pooncholai
5 punniyavathi
6 chinna maaple
7 dharma seelan
8 dhruva natchathiram
9 ezhai jaathi
10 kovil kaalai
11 paarvathi ennai paaradi
12 agni paarvai
13 aavarampoo
14 chinnavar
15 deiva vaaku
16 maappillai vanthaachu
17 pangaali
18 ponnuketha purushan
19 naangal
20 puthiya swarangal
21 rickshaw mama
22 singaravelan
23 thaai mozhi
24 thirumathi palanisamy
25 unnai nenachen paatu padichen
26 va va vasanthame
27 ulle veliye
28 vanna vanna pookal
29 villupattukaaran
30 brahma
31 chinna thambi
32 dharma durai
33 eeramana rojave
34 irumbu pookal
35 paandi durai
36 sami potta mudichu
37 thambi pondatti
38 thambikku oru paattu
39 thanga manasukkaran
40 vetri karangal
41 amman kovil thiruvizha
42 en uyir thozhan
43 kavithai paadum alaigal
44 keladi kanmani
45 mallu veti minor
46 mounam sammadham
47 my dear marthandan
48 ooru vittu ooru vandhu
49 paattukku naan adimai
50 periya veettu pannakaaran
51 pudhu paattu
52 pondatti thevai
53 siraiyil pootha chinna malar
54 thaalaattu paada vaa
55 anbu kattalai
56 annanukku jey
57 chinnappa das
58 dharmam vellum
59 enga ooru maappillai
60 karagaattakaaran
61 maappillai
62 ninaivu chinnam
63 paasa mazhai
64 paattukku oru thalaivan
65 paandi naattu thangam
66 pick pocket
67 pongi varum kaaveri
68 ponmana selvan
69 raja rajathan
70 rajadhi raja
71 thangamaana raasa
72 thiruppu munai
73 vaathiyaar veettu pillai
74 vetri vizha
75 dharmathin thalaivan
76 en bommu kutti ammaavukku
77 enga ooru kaavakkaaran
78 enna petha raasa
79 irandil ondru
80 naan sonnathe sattam
81 paasa paravaigal
82 poonthotta kavalkaran
83 raasave unnai nambi
84 sakkarai panthal
85 shenbagame shenbagame
86 soora samhaaram
87 dhaayam onnu
88 anand
89 enga ooru paattukaaran
90 giramathu minnal
91 illam
92 jallikkattu
93 kaadhal parisu
94 ninaive oru sangeetham
95 rettai vaal kuruvi
96 theertha karaiyinile
97 dhoorathu pachai
98 amman kovil kizhkkaale
99 aruvadai naal
100 december pookal
101 enakku naane neethipathi
102 iravu pookkal
103 isai paadum thendral
104 kadalora kavithaigal
105 kalyana kacheri
106 kannukku mai ezhuthu
107 kumbakkarai thangaiyya
108 maaveeran
109 mudhal vasantham
110 neethaana antha kuyil
111 paaru paaru pattanam paaru
112 paalaivana rojaakkal
113 pudhir
114 thazhuvaatha kaigal
115 unakkaagave vaazhgiren
116 vidinja kalyanam
117 vikram
118 anbin mugavari
119 andh oru numidam
120 hello yaar pesarathu
121 kanni raasi
122 kunguma chimizh
123 meendum oru kaathal kathai
124 meendum parasakthi
125 naan sigappu manithan
126 nall thambi
127 neethiyin maruppakkam
128 padikkaathavan
129 padikkaatha pannaiyaar
130 pagal nilavu
131 un kannil neer vazhinthaal
132 unnai thedi varuven
133 urimai
134 eetti
135 anbulla malare
136 ingeyum oru gangai
137 kai kodukkum kai
138 komberi mookkan
139 naalai unathu naal
140 naan paadaum paadal
141 nee thodum pothu
142 neengal kettavai
143 neram nalla neram
144 niyaayam
145 oh maane maane
146 pozhuthu vidinchaachu
147 vaidhegi kaathirunthaal
148 aanandha gummi
149 antha sila naatkal
150 aayiram nilave vaa
151 devi sridevi
152 ilamai kaalangal
153 indru nee naalai naan
154 inimai itho itho
155 jothi
156 kokkarakko
157 malargal nanaigindrana
158 malayoor mambattian
159 mann vaasanai
160 mella pesungal
161 oppantham
162 raagangal maaruvathillai
163 thangamadi thangam
164 ullam uruguthadi
165 veetla raaman veliyile krishnan
166 vellai roja
167 aagaya gangai
168 aananda raagam
169 bagavathipuram railway gate
170 eera vizhi kaaviyangal
171 raaja gopuram
172 en selvame
173 ethanai konam ethanai paarvai
174 kavithai malar
175 kozhi koovuthu
176 manjal nila
177 moondram pirai
178 payanangal mudivathillai
179 raani theni
180 thooral ninnu pochu
181 vaalibame vaa vaa
182 alaigal oiyvathillai
183 ilaiyaraajavin rasigai
184 indro poi naalai vaa
185 kadal meengal
186 karaiyellam shenbagapoo
187 metti
188 nandu
189 oomai ullangal
190 panneer pushpangal
191 pattanam pogalam vaa
192 raaja paarvai
193 aayiram vaasal ithayam
194 ellaam un kairaasi
195 enakkaaga kaathiru
196 giramathu adhyayam
197 ilamai kolam
198 johnny
199 kallukkul eeram
200 karumbu vil
201 malargale malarungal
202 moodupani
203 nadhiyai thedi vantha kadal
204 nenjathai killadhe
205 nizhalgal
206 agal vilakku
207 lakshmi
208 manippoor maamiyaar
209 mugathil mugam paarkalaam
210 ponnu oorukku puthusu
211 puthiya vaarpugal
212 rosappoo ravikkaikaari
213 aval appadithaan
214 aval oru pachai kuzhathai
215 kizhakke pogum rayil
216 mullum malarum
217 shankarlal
218 16 vayathinile
219 panchami

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Post  app_engine Tue Apr 02, 2013 9:10 pm

nanRi, V_Sji!

I've added this list to the first post of the thread, for quick & easy reach Smile

Just to make things a little clear, while I'm happy for the overall volume / numbers, I'm also going by my weirdo methodology (similar to another weirdo stuff applied in the SPB-IR thread) Smile

That is, picking individual songs - that are of "acceptable standards" as well as popular enough to qualify. And then praise GA on that basis, as a person of excellence.

That way, I'm taking some liberty in eliminating a number of songs for e.g. 'ponmEni uruguthE' & 'yE AththA AththOramA vAriyA' - these were written by GA but are out of my comfort domain to praise about. Sure, those establish his versatility and admirers are welcome to comment upon, but I can only make a passing mention of them.

(I will however, make sure that similar criteria is applied for VM too - when handling the statistics related to the allegation that IR without VM is mottai gOpuram.)

In any case, the main purpose of this thread is to correct the general belief that GA was just a 'dappAnguththu' fellow who also directed some hit films. That way, in any case, I'll have to be somewhat picky to establish thus Smile

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Post  app_engine Tue Apr 02, 2013 10:07 pm

#59 aRaichcha sandhanam maNakkum kungumam (chinnaththambi, SPB)

Smooth flowing themmAngu, home turf for GA and he scores a chanceless century. If I rank film songs based on the (possible) # of times listened in life-time, this one should easily make it to the top 100 Smile I've posted about this song very many times at the hub and it earned its place in the SPB-IR thread as well.

thiraippAdal link: http://www.thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer.asp?sngs='SNGIRR0522'&lang=en

Inserting a folk song as prelude or interlude is like eating halwA for the IR-GA brothers. Get it done by either solo female or kuzhu, add kulavai saththam etc have been made industry standard by them, for an authentic TN rural number. The thogaiyaRa for this song is so sweet, adorning a girl with lovely words and assertively telling that nothing can match her in glory:

செம்பவழ முத்துக்கள சேர்த்து வச்ச சித்திரமே
தங்க வளை வைர வளை போட்டிருக்கும் முத்தினமே
வாய்மலர்ந்து நீ சிரிச்சா பாத்திருக்கும் அத்தனையும்
நீ மலர்ந்து பாத்திருந்தா தோத்து விடும் இத்தனையும்

Then starts the free flowing terrific pallavi:

அறைச்ச சந்தனம் மணக்கும் குங்குமம் அழகு நெத்தியிலே
ஒரு அழகுப் பெட்டகம் புதிய புத்தகம் சிரிக்கும் பந்தலிலே
முழு சந்திரன் வந்தது போல் ஒரு சுந்தரி வந்ததென்ன?
ஒரு மந்திரம் செஞ்சது போல் பல மாயங்கள் தந்ததென்ன?
இது பூவோ, பூந்தேரோ?

The exceptional conversational style is unmistakable, but still the writing is poetic and musical! All kinds of beautiful similes and metaphors get placed effortlessly ! Such is achieved without resorting to some complicated words picked from lexicon or risking non-musical rough edges here and there - pretty much Kannadasan style Smile

Both the saranams are smoothies too :

சரணம் 1:

பூவடி அவ பொன்னடி அதைத் தேடிப் போகும் தேனீ
தேனடி அந்த திருவடி அவ தேவலோக ராணி
தாழம்பூவு வாசம் வீசும் மேனியோ
அந்த ஏழு லோகம் பார்த்திராத தேவியோ
ரத்தினம் கட்டின பூந்தேரு உங்களைப் படைச்சதாரு
என்னைக்கும் வயசு மூவாறு என் சொல்லு பலிக்கும் பாரு
இது பூவோ பூந்தேரோ?

சரணம் 2:

மான்விழி ஒரு தேன்மொழி நல்ல மகிழம்பூவு அதரம்
பூநிறம் அவ பொன்னிறம் அவ சிரிக்க நினைப்பு சிதறும்
ஏலப்பூவு கோலம் போடும் நாசி தான்
பல ஜாலத்தோடு ஆடப் போகும் ராசிதான்
மொட்டுக்கள் இன்னிக்குப் பூவாச்சு சித்திரம் பெண்ணென்ன ஆச்சு
கட்டுறேன் கட்டுறேன் நான் பாட்டு கைகளைத் தட்டுங்க கேட்டு
இது பூவோ பூந்தேரோ

The poet is not simply repeating "இது பூவோ பூந்தேரோ" but keeps on comparing aspects of the girl to a variety of flowers : தாழம்பூவு வாசம் வீசும் மேனி, மகிழம்பூவு அதரம், ஏலப்பூவு கோலம் போடும் நாசி! (I've written a post with picture in the hub a while ago on cardamom flower Laughing )

Also, he casually inserts the purpose of the function " மொட்டுக்கள் இன்னிக்குப் பூவாச்சு" - this is what is expected of a capable film lyricist, directly or indirectly to tell the story, while sticking to the musical and rhythmic standards and maintaining the aesthetics!

GA is after all a veteran in story-telling and this line is a sweet sixer!

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Post  endrum_raja Wed Apr 03, 2013 9:14 am

Very rightly said, app about the song. You have taken me to the year 1991 which i consider my best ever period for various reasons.

I remember listening to this song during summer vacation prior to movie release when the whole album was played on a repeat mode from one of our colony house along with "Pudhupaattu" album.

We brothers used to go to that house and start playing the carrom from morning till evening with friends and the other group will play "trump" card game.

During the evening we do play football in our colony ground till it gets dark. We guys used to sing along this song in addition to "Uchandalai" from CT and discuss a lot about sports/movies and ofcourse MAESTRO.

Thanks for putting this song which had evoked my plesant memories.

GA is one of the most under rated writer in film circle though he deserves more.

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Post  app_engine Wed Apr 03, 2013 4:03 pm

endrum_raja,

I'm glad aRaichcha sandhanam brought back some pleasant memories of yours Smile

Just as an aside, the movie had every other song by Vaali (thooLiyilE, pOvOmA, uchchandhala, kuyilappudichchu)...biggest hit was thooLiyilE followed by pOvOmA. (aRaichcha could be #3 in popularity)

Contrary to your experience, I heard the songs for the first time in theater when watching the movie Embarassed Got connected instantly to 'aRaichcha sandhanam' & it's my #1 favourite in this album, to this day! (Only recently I discovered the GA connection, thanks to the vinyl covers hosted by musicalaya.net )

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Post  V_S Wed Apr 03, 2013 8:24 pm

app ji,
Again a beauty of a write-up in arachcha sandhanam. the clap thumbsup This one song trumps all Mano songs in the same album.

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Post  app_engine Wed Apr 03, 2013 10:07 pm

nanRi, V_Sji!

'pOvOmA oorkOlam' had SPB too, written by Vaali Smile (duet with Swarnalatha)...

Let me have SPB for GA song #60 also...

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Post  app_engine Wed Apr 03, 2013 10:41 pm

#60 chinna maNeekkuyilE (amman kOvil kizhakkAlE, SPB)

This song needs no intro, being the most popular song of TN in 1986 (& the mid-80's). Such was the frequency of its playbacks in TN that only deaf people could have missed it during that time period!

While catchy tune, terrific singing by SPB, being part of a hit movie for a "happening" hero, lovely orchestration by IR, genre (themmAngu) acceptable to mass are all true factors and had their role in making the song very popular, one cannot totally discount the simple and catchy lines / phrases that made that song a mainstay! Of course, written by the "mass" kavingar GA Laughing

For any song to have a reach across the population (learned to illiterates, old people to kids, musically savvy to kaRpoora vAsanai fellows, nagaram to grAmam), a song has to have two necessary qualities that are complementary: 1. Simple words that are easy to understand 2. Necessary aesthetics in the combination of such words that will not dumb down the listeners to "ammA ingE vA vA" levels Smile

Though the conditions are seemingly simple, to have a winner that satisfies both is not easy. The IR-GA-RS combo had successfully done that in chinna maNikkuyil!

thiraippAdal: http://www.thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer.asp?sngs='SNGIRR0175'&lang=en

Look at the pAdal varikaL:

பல்லவி

சின்ன மணிக்குயிலே மெல்ல வரும் மயிலே
எங்கே உன் ஜோடி? நான் போறேன் தேடி!
இங்கே உன் ஜோடியில்லாம, கேட்டாக்கா பதிலும் சொல்லாம
குக்கூ எனக் கூவுவதேனடி, கண்மணி, கண்மணி?
பதில் சொல்லு நீ சொல்லு நீ!

சரணம் 1

நில்லாத வைகையிலே நீராடப் போகையிலே
சொல்லாத சைகையிலே நீ ஜாடை செய்கையிலே
கல்லாகிப் போனேன் நானும் கண் பார்த்தா ஆளாவேன்
கை சேரும் காலம் வந்தா தோளோடு தோளாவேன்
உள்ள கனத்த தடி ராகம் பாடி நாளும் தேடி
நீ அடிக்கடி அணைக்கனும் கண்மணி கண்மணி பதில் சொல்லு நீ சொல்லு நீ

சரணம் 2

பட்டுத் துணி உடுத்தி உச்சி முடி திருத்தி
தொட்டு அடியெடுத்து எட்டி நடந்த புள்ள
உன் சேலை காற்றில் ஆட என் நெஞ்சும் சேர்ந்தாட
உன் கூந்தல் வாசம் பாத்து என் எண்ணம் கூத்தாட
மாராப்புச்சேலையில நூலைப் போல நானிருக்க
நான் சாமியை வேண்டுறேன் கண்மணி கண்மணி பதில் சொல்லு நீ சொல்லு நீ

There's enough love, kuRumbu, teasing, romance...well, quite a loaded song Smile

Vijayakanth - Radha, interesting pair on the youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NU71QXEc8Y


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Post  app_engine Wed Apr 03, 2013 10:49 pm

Of course, chinna maNikkuyilE got featured in the SPB-IR thread...want to quote a portion:



One of the most popular songs of TFM, ever!

The real patti-thotti-town-city hit! It was when I collected my final results, course completion certificate etc from Trichy and returning to native (a few months after joining the job) that I heard the song for the first time on the bus and was stunned! Being in Kerala and a little bit out of date, I didn't yet clearly understand the reach of that song inside TN. I still remember the way in which the woman who was sitting in the same row of the bus (opposite side) talked about the song in a loud voice!

(She was talking to the another country woman sitting next to her and not to me Gangai Amaran - excellent lyricist for IR - 100 special picks of this combo - Page 6 Icon_smile )

இந்தா எங்க வீட்டுப்புள்ளக ரெண்டும் இதக்கேட்டா ஒரே குதியாட்டம் தான்!

அப்பிடி ஒரு ஆட்டமோ ஆட்டம்!

இநத மாதிரிப்பாட்டு நான் இதுக்கு முன்னாடி கேட்டதே இல்ல, யம்மாடியோ!

You don't have to guess that my heart was thuLLifying like anything! This is praise from a typical, not-so-much-educated, not-so-much-aware-about-complexities-of-music etc TN lady who by her natural instinct instantly giving certificate to rAsA for one of his finest, rarest compositions the accolade it deserved! It's a different kind of feeling - that I myself had become a crorepathi or something like that for a while Gangai Amaran - excellent lyricist for IR - 100 special picks of this combo - Page 6 Ymlol I don't think I've experienced such a feeling prior or after - typical fanboy feeling but I don't feel ashamed to write that - since it was a truly deserving song of "rAsA genre" - like nothing before or after IMSO!


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Post  endrum_raja Thu Apr 04, 2013 9:13 am

App,

Every time when i listen to this song, i feel charged up by the singing of great SPB with the magical yet looks very simple tune.

I have listen to this number from him in one of the concert and was dumbstruck by the thullal/sinungal/nakkal of him when he sings on stage.

GA, what to say that he might have written this song in real quick time i guess.

Would love to listen from MAESTRO himself about the events occurred during this song composition.

How do we categorize this type of song? Kuthu with class/teasing song with fine melody pattern runs background. i don't know.

Experts can throw some light on this type of numerous songs composed by Raja.

Thanks,
Rajesh

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Post  app_engine Thu Apr 04, 2013 7:13 pm

endrum_raja wrote:How do we categorize this type of song? Kuthu with class/teasing song with fine melody pattern runs background. i don't know.

Smile Good question, there are tons of songs that defy genre...

People quote many recent songs for 'kuthu with class'. My #1 example for that category has always been "adiyE manam nillunnA nikkAdhadee"! The prelude of that neengaL kEttavi song alone is sufficient to set it a class apart!

What a song! http://www.thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer.asp?sngs='SNGIRR2321'&lang=en

(Though written by GA, I may not be able to feature this in the near future as there are many ahead of that...)

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Post  app_engine Thu Apr 04, 2013 9:58 pm

Switching gears from themmAngu mELA to a semi-classical nAttiya geetham...

#61 vaidhEhi rAman kai sErum kAlam thai mAdha nannALilE (pagal nilavu, SJ)

I'm not sure if the first line is picked from some old classical or own coinage of GA , as I'm not knoweldgeable enough in that area. What I do know is the manner in which the words get matched to a lovely melody! Add SJ's voice & singing to the recipe, you have a winner!

Looks like TF today has forgotten that such a genre existed once upon a time, enabling people to ask questions like "which rAgam, what thALam" etc Wink Look at this blog : http://musicmavericks.blogspot.com/2005/12/pagal-nilavu-2-vaidehi-raman.html that talks about the rAgamAlika song primarily based on kalyANi Smile

IR got his NA for that year anyways (for sindhu bhairavi) but going by the analysis of that blog, it was a miss for SJ. (Well, KSC got for sindhu bhairavi too , deserved that Gangai Amaran - excellent lyricist for IR - 100 special picks of this combo - Page 6 7px-Indian_Rupee_symbol.svg 10,000/- every paisA, so no regrets).

Jumping back to the thread topic, GA almost matched his predecessors in writing smooth lyrics for the semi-classical style song :

thiraippAdal: http://www.thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer.asp?sngs='SNGIRR2629'&lang=en

பல்லவி

வைதேகி ராமன் கை சேரும் காலம்
தை மாத நன்னாளிலே
வையம் வானகம் யாவும் தோரணம்
மெய்யை மெய் தொடும் காதல் காரணம்

("மெய்யை மெய் தொடும் காதல்" Very Happy what an interesting phrase)

சரணம் 1:

காவேரி நீர் போல ஓடும் ஆடும் கல்யாண ராகங்கள் பாடும்
காணாத கோலங்கள் யாவும் காணும் கண்ணோடு மோகங்கள் கூடும்
ஏதோ ஓர் பொன்மின்னல் என்னுள்ளிலே ஏதேதோ கூறாதோ பூந்தென்றலே
காதோடு ஆனந்தம் கேட்கின்றதே ஏன் என்று என் உள்ளம் பார்க்கின்றதே

சரணம் 2:

பூவான மிருதங்கம் எங்கும் பொங்கும் புரியாத லயம் கூடும் சங்கம்
கூவாத குயில் தந்த சந்தம் சிந்தும் குறையாத சுகம் எந்தன் சொந்தம்
நான் காணும் ஆனந்தம் ஆரோகணம் வான் தூவும் பூவெல்லாம் அவரோகணம்
சங்கீதத் தாளங்கள் போடும் மனம் சந்தோஷ ராகங்கள் பாடும் தினம், மிதிலையில்

It's quite interesting to see how SJ sings மிருதங்கம் (gives half mAththirai pause and then nails it as ம்ருதங்கம், contrast that with how she sings கூவாத குயில் தந்த without that pause, her Sanskrit sensitivity is clear) Smile

youtube (MR's first Thamizh film, all songs by GA and this is the third song we host - after poomAlaiyE thOL sEra vA & poovilE mEdai nAn pOdavA)

BTW, it's not Revathy dancing but chiththi...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQTDW828UPE


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Post  app_engine Tue Apr 09, 2013 12:24 am

#62 oodhakkAththu veesaiyilE kuyilu koovaiyilE (grAmaththu aththiyAyam, SJ/PJ)

A three stanza delight that has max contribution by SJ. PJ is used here and there - to sing a line or two - but it's an all-out-SJ show, IMHO. IR was in his sweet elements for this album (we've already featured the two sophi numbers and are now into themmAngu territory; there's one more after this).

The very first word is an authentic country-side usage and some of my city-grown relatives weren't exactly familiar with what the word means. Well, though I've heard it being used in the country side frequently, me too wasn't very sure about the EXACT meaning of the word. Can it be broken into two words, as "ஊதல்+காற்று" - meaning whistling wind? Quite possible as we often hear the wind buzzing. On the other hand, the situation in this song and other TFM songs do not exactly convey the meaning of a strong wind (that makes fearsome whistles) but one that is chilly Smile Even in this song, we see in the later portion of pallavi "வாடை தான் என்ன ஆட்டுது" signifying the chillness of vAdaikkAtRu which may or may not be noisy but sure to penetrate thru bones.

That way, it is not possibly "whistle" that the first word indicates but "chillness" which is better told as கூதல் , which means 'kuLir' of a strong kind Smile I guess that's the reason some town-folks couldn't understand what this wind actually was. In any case, SJ's voice and the accompanying themmAngu + IR orch brings a breezy chillness of Margazhi.

The song is full of more lovely references to country environment (குயிலு கூவையிலே, குருவிங்க பேசையிலே , கொத்தமல்லிப்பூ வாசம், வாசமுள்ள பூ முல்லை) that one easily gets transported to a night in TN village!

Look at the lines: http://www.thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer.asp?sngs='SNGIRR0953'&lang=en

பல்லவி

ஊதக்காத்து வீசயில குயிலு கூவயில
கொஞ்சிடும் ஆசயில குருவிங்க பேசயில
வாட தான் என்ன ஆட்டுது வாட்டுது


சரணம் 1

கொத்தமல்லிப் பூவாசம் அத்த மகன் உன் நேசம்
சுத்துது என்ன வேகமா மோகமா
நான் என்னத்த செய்ய - நான் என்னத்த செய்ய நீ வந்து கைய தொட்டதும் ஏறுது
ஆச கட்டள போட்டுக் கட்டுற பாட்டு என்னையும் மீறுது

சரணம் 2

பக்கத்தில நீ வேணும் கட்டிக்கொள்ளத்தான் வேணும்
சொக்கி சொக்கி எண்ணம் ஓடுது தேடுது
அத சொல்லடி புள்ள - அத சொல்லுற புள்ள வெக்கத்த மெல்ல விட்டுட்டு கேக்குது
நீயும் அள்ளுற போதும் கிள்ளுற போதும் அசந்து பாக்குது

சரணம் 3

வாசமுள்ள பூ முல்ல வாடபட்டுத்தான் மெல்ல
வாடுறேன் ரொம்ப நேரமா ஓரமா
அத எங்கிட்ட சொல்லு -அத ஒங்கிட்ட சொன்னா ஆசைங்க உன்ன என்னையும் மிரட்டுது
நீ பாக்குற போதும் கேக்குற போதும் பார்வையும் வெரட்டுது

WARNING : Watch youtube at your own risk Smile


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Post  endrum_raja Tue Apr 09, 2013 3:29 pm

Excellent song with the fine lyrics by GA. The song's orchestration looks very authentic folk flavour inline with the lyrics. I beleive KJY singing this folk number with wonderful SJ takes us back to early 80's feel.HAs KJY sang this kinda folk song before this one in IR's music.

The other wonderful numbers "Aathu Mettula" and "Vadatha Rosapoo" are too good to listen. Hoping that these songs will feature in the list if by GA.

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Post  app_engine Tue Apr 09, 2013 4:31 pm

endrum_raja wrote:HAs KJY sang this kinda folk song before this one in IR's music.

The other wonderful numbers "Aathu Mettula" and "Vadatha Rosapoo" are too good to listen. Hoping that these songs will feature in the list if by GA.

Actually P Jayachandran is the male singer for 'oodhakkAththu veesaiyilE' (as mentioned in my post above) Smile

Regardless, KJY has sung many folk numbers...quick e.g vachchappArva theerAdhudi machchAn kuRi mARadhudi (iLamaikkOlam, lyrics GA).

We've already featured 'vAdAdha rOsAppoo' in this IR-GA thread (song # 35) Smile

'Aththu mEttula' will be included in the future...

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Post  endrum_raja Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:28 pm

Thanks,App.Got bit confused thinking KJs voice.Yeah vacha paarva is mindbogling number.Heard it live during Jaya Tv concert.

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