Maestro's magic in Neethaane En Ponvasantham

HonestRaj wrote:Neethane En Pon vasantham

* IR singing the sad version of "idharkku thaana aasai vaithai".. it was close enough to Sethu's varthai thavari vittai.. appadiye surrender aagitten.. dheivame.. & the bgm's need to watch the film few more times..

அருமை அருமை! இப்பொ கோவை நிகழ்ச்சியில நிலா அது வானத்துமேல பாடல் தாலாட்டுப்பாடல் எந்பதையும் அதை குத்துபாட்டு கணக்கா மாத்தினதையும் ராஜா சொன்னாரு! அதேபோல் இந்த 'பெண்கள் என்றால்' பாடலிந் சரணத்தை ராஜா பாடும் போது ஒரு கிராமிய சோகப்பாடலா கூட இதை உருவகப்படுத்தலாம் என்பது தெரிந்தது!

Gautham in the NEP special show in vijay says he used to buy Rahman CDs in the 90s like how he passionately bought Raaja cassettes in the 80s. But he was very eloquent about Raaja eventhough he tried to put them on the same pedestal. Now I am almost certain he won't work with Raaja again.

Guess he is going to win back all those 'lost' fans.

Watched the second time (obviously net ubayam)...exactly same opinion as the first watch

Looks like my brain wiring is quite solid

Nerd wrote:Gautham in the NEP special show in vijay says he used to buy Rahman CDs in the 90s like how he passionately bought Raaja cassettes in the 80s. But he was very eloquent about Raaja eventhough he tried to put them on the same pedestal. Now I am almost certain he won't work with Raaja again.

Guess he is going to win back all those 'lost' fans.

Yup, he was never going to work with Raaja again

Yet, *respect* for the respect he showed Raaja. Padam paakkumbodhu konjam tension aitten but that's life. Move on

Nani nails it :thumbsup:

Nerd wrote:Gautham in the NEP special show in vijay says he used to buy Rahman CDs in the 90s like how he passionately bought Raaja cassettes in the 80s. But he was very eloquent about Raaja eventhough he tried to put them on the same pedestal. Now I am almost certain he won't work with Raaja again.

Guess he is going to win back all those 'lost' fans.

இம்புட்டு புகழ்ந்துட்டு அவர் ரஹ்மான் பக்கம் கூட ஒதுங்கமுடியாது, சேர்த்துக்கமாத்தாங்க! அட்லீஸ்ட் உடனடியா! அதனால்தானோ என்னவோ ஹாரிஸ் பற்றி விரிவா பேசினார். அனேகமா அடுத்து ஹாரிஸாக இருக்க வாய்ப்பு இருக்கு! அவருக்கும் கொஞ்சம் டல் தான். இப்போது கௌதமுடந் சேர்ந்தால் நன்றாயிருக்கும்!

Wizzy wrote:Nani nails it :thumbsup:

thanks Wizzy!! telugu version kandippa paakkanum,... Jeeva was a major let down for me in tamil... movie would have been much much better had Nani acted in tamil version also...

honestu hey super'ba... nee ipdillam pesi naan kaettadhe illa..

NEPV, Good only no? Far better in certain aspects than VTV. Lack of superficiality, more maturity in the choices. More soft colours, diffused light, more lengthy medium/long shots (though one on terrace with the crane was a bit 'off').

No major off putting assault to senses like Trisha & Simbu here. And the casting was all right (dubbing was little off though, especially Rajini's brother in law dude, who plays Jeeva's dad), Nani does better, I'm told, want to see it too.

காக்க காக்க-விற்கு பிறகு பார்த்த படம் நீதானே என் பொன்வசந்தம். விண்ணைத்தாண்டி வருவாயாவை நேற்றுதான் பார்த்தேன்.
இரண்டு படத்திற்கும் பல ஒற்றுமைகள் இருந்தாலும் வசந்தம் ஒரு படி மேல் என்று நினைக்கிறேன். பாட்டு மற்றும் பின்னணி இசையின் பொருத்தம்
வசந்தத்தில்தான் அமைந்திருக்கிறது. இரண்டு படமும் அமெச்சூரான படங்கள்தான்.இரண்டு படத்திலும் பெண் கதாபாத்திரத்திமே
பலவீனமானமாகவும் 'தப்புப் பண்ணீட்டேனே' என்று அமைத்திருப்பது குறிப்பிடத்தக்க குறை.

kid_glove wrote:NEPV, Good only no? Far better in certain aspects than VTV. Lack of superficiality, more maturity in the choices.

Yayy!!

I thought all the three conflicts were handled sensibly and sensitively.

GVM introduces Varun and Nithya to be living in the same apartment complex. Nithya does not quite mingle with the kids around her and prefers spending her free time reading books in the park. First time she meets Varun, she sees him holding a book in his hand and thinks she has finally found a buddy. Varun on the other hand likes Nithya very much but has other interests too like cricket. One fine day when it comes between cricket and her, Varun chooses the former in order to evade one of the harshest insults a boy at that age can endure - "Are you a girl?". Well played there Gautham. Nithya after having deserted by her only friend feels extremely disappointed.

They meet up in high school and start becoming friends again after Nithya forgives Varun after Varun's long due apology. Things go really well until Samantha starts taking a little responsibility. School pupil reader. And naturally she could not spend as much time as she used to. She is still madly in love with Varun and more than the anger factor its the disappointment of Varun's words at that juncture which hurt her the most. "I can't believe you of all people are saying this Varun."

The second time they meet up after a break, Nithya being the most romantic wants to set things right. Last time it was because of her, when she decided to take some responsibilities that the relationship had to fail. That's what she thinks anyway. This time she wants to completely forget everything around her and make Varun her world. I mean she was still the same until that point. Debate competitions, dance etc., She always had something going for her. And when they converse (before the annan's peN paarkkum episode) about their future for a little bit, Nithya quickly admits that she has not thought anything about what to do next and all she wants is to be with him. Such a beautiful scene that - immediately after they confess their love.

Then Nithya takes a (perfectly placed if I may say) long vacation leaving Varun to think about other important things around him. And after his family is literally shaken by an incident, he realizes how much he owes to them. For the first time in his life he decides to take some responsibilities on his own. Gautham turns the tables very well in these set of scenes. Varun becoming the Nithya of school days and Nithya is already the Varun from high school, with a little more intelligence and sensibility may be. Nithya back from her vacation is completely devastated to know that Varun's interest towards her has decreased substantially. How can he do it to her? I mean she gave up everything, all her interests, friends etc., just to be with him. And he does not even respect that. And even at that point she wants to be with him somehow. She wants to write the CAT, go to kozhikode with him etc., but Varun categorically denies them. And unlike the high-school-Varun she really tries hard to make it work. Really liked her characterization there.

The mottai maadi scene is quite important to the film and does mottai score or what. Plays the title song in the keyboard, violins, a single violin etc., Beautiful.

There is no love formation establishment. No continuity and hence little basis for louu to be strong and enduring. It's a different issue that only very few films get this right. Still, they have at least the plot elements keeping things interesting. Rejected

kid_glove wrote:NEPV, Good only no? Far better in certain aspects than VTV. Lack of superficiality, more maturity in the choices. More soft colours, diffused light, more lengthy medium/long shots (though one on terrace with the crane was a bit 'off').

No major off putting assault to senses like Trisha & Simbu here. And the casting was all right (dubbing was little off though, especially Rajini's brother in law dude, who plays Jeeva's dad), Nani does better, I'm told, want to see it too.

many raaja fans feel that this movie is better but feel a little threatened to say it openly as the opposite camp would start pestering them for being 'biased' - to hell with bias - this is much better movie. however for a middle aged man spoilt by verbal and 'directorial touch' assaulted "love stories" through 80s and 90s, the lack of movement in this moments film is highly sleep inducing.

I'm also genuinely confused about some of the reactions. enna nuance? nEththu anganga (mostly in the first half) Otti padaththai online-la thirumbap pArththuttEn. (I was thinking of and I still might catch it a second time in a theatre.) As I said elsewhere, the film really takes off only towards the end. The first half is a series of lifeless vignettes sliced between utterly ineffective time transitions. (The sound is so 'off' it seems like a B-grade film where the characters have to talk off their lines and go through the setup scenes to arrive at the key moments; I know it's outrageous but it was a bit like how conversations happen in porn films.) Park scene, school scenes-lallAm enna nadakkudhungRadhu okay, what was good about these scenes? Not a single good moment till the first mottamaadi scene. I just didn't get a sense of these 2 people hopelessly falling in love. Far from being 'slow,' I found the film too rushed here hardly lingering on any of the characters at any point. All you get to see is some pointless slow motions and fade-outs/ins. And then there are overpowering songs. There's no sense of lost time. It was like the lead pair themselves say, let's forget what happened in between (as it's not in the movie anyway). Most of the "what they've gone through" is merely talked about, through verbose dialogue and voiceovers (typically poor; very reminiscent of the fiasco that VA was on this count).

Going by what happens when they do meet, the film gives a sense that they were just sulking within themselves about losing each other. For all the talk about doing their own stuff, you don't get to see how it has changed them at all. Their feelings it seems have remained unperturbed (without talking to each other for years!). I mean, I kinda got Nithya's reaction when she says book padikkaRA mAdhiri irundhudhu. But that sort of indifference she's gained over the years is totally lost at later points. Some reviews have talked about how this film is beyond the 'excesses' of "enakku nee, unakku naan" love, but I totally differ here. Yes, there are moments of disillusionment, but the film kept spiralling back to it all the same. It never seemed to be about disillusionment if you look past the dialogue which painfully keep reiterating their respective perspectives/disappointments. So far from being a modern messy romance (VTV was the proper messy romance, not this), I found it all quite puritanical. (Like saying, whom are we kidding? They're of course going to join hands!)

Btw, I found (weirdly another parallel to VA for me) there were 2 cuts in what I saw on big screen, both important to the film. Why would they do this? I don't understand. The conversation between Varun and his brother after the marriage proposal scene and (very weirdly) the initial part of the motta maadi scene - when the news about his getting through 2 IIMs is revealed, as they enter the terrace and till the first 'disappointment' moment for Varun (ivan engap pOvappORAnnu nenachchiyA?). I saw only from the moment afterwards where they brush this first 'urasal' aside and talk about going to Kozhikode.

raajarasigan wrote:

Wizzy wrote:Nani nails it :thumbsup:

thanks Wizzy!! telugu version kandippa paakkanum,... Jeeva was a major let down for me in tamil... movie would have been much much better had Nani acted in tamil version also...

yes.. even Samantha's expression seems to be very good in this.. both might be the same shot.. telugu version is a must watch
paLingu madhiri print release pannattum.. parthudaren..
the major difference is Gowtham's voice for nepv..

now i watched this part again.. "neethane en pon vasantham" nu paadumpodhu appadiye odambula jivvunnu oru excitement pass aagudhu.. super!!!!!

Nerd wrote:Nice.. Aanaalum idha theater-la paakkaama thiruttu vcd-la paaththadhu

kambeni illeenga..
almost everyone who saw before me, gave a big thumbs down..

Sakalakala Vallavar wrote:அனுபவிச்சி எளுதிருக்காப்டி ஆனஸ்டு! நெர்ட், அவர் இந்தப்படத்தை திரையில் பார்த்திருந்தா சமந்தாவை இந்தளவு ரசிக்கமுடியாதென்பதால் குறுவட்டுக்குள் அடைச்சிவெச்சி அழகுபார்த்திருக்காரு

raajarasigan wrote:honestu hey super'ba... nee ipdillam pesi naan kaettadhe illa..

plum wrote:Wow! Aanestu - captain padathukku kooda ivLO nInga uNarchi vasapattu ezhudhinadhillaiyE - the power of Sammu kutty? !!!

angeyum unarchivasapatrukken.. idhu adhukkum mela

plum wrote:
If you dont mind me patronizing you, there is a marked change in your language and style of writing - besant nagar vAsi ezhudhinadhai padikkaRA mAdhiriyE irukku - power of Peter Menon? ! ;lol!:

change in language'ah.. ippadi ellam vesham pOttathan office'la madhikkiranunga.. avanungalukkum english theriyadhungradhu vera visayam..

plum wrote:Exlend review. apdiyE padaththai uLvAngi veLila vuttuttInga. Gowthamar pArthA nemba sandhOsha paduvAr

enakku indha kadhaila nadandha madhiri real life experience illai.. aanalum padam nalla irukku..

plum wrote:...sandhEgamE illai...sila pala nalla samAcharams nadandhukittirukku koodiya viraivil kuvAkuvA dhAn..chee.. I mean..dum dum dum dhAn!

nooo.. noo.. no.. kableete nee methad..
enakkenna 200 ah.. 300 ah..
luvsukku vayasu vithyasam yEdhu.. endha vayasulayum luvs varalaam.. adEi.. ____ [greatest all time punch]

nan enna thiruttu kalyanama panna poren.. sollittu than pannuven.. don't worry!!!!!

ஆனெஷ்டு, உன்னோட விமர்சனத்த நான் ட்டுய்ட்டர்ல போட்டு நல்ல ரெஸ்பான்ஸ் யா! சும்மா பின்னிட்ட போ! உனக்கு சமந்தா அளவுக்கு இல்லேன்னாலும் அதுல பாதி அளவு அழகு, சமந்தா போல 100% அதே குணம் உள்ள பொண்ணு அமையட்டும்!

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Parthaachu paarthaachu. Truly overwhelmed! More later.

Sakalakala Vallavar wrote:ஆனெஷ்டு, உன்னோட விமர்சனத்த நான் ட்டுய்ட்டர்ல போட்டு நல்ல ரெஸ்பான்ஸ் யா! சும்மா பின்னிட்ட போ! உனக்கு சமந்தா அளவுக்கு இல்லேன்னாலும் அதுல பாதி அளவு அழகு, சமந்தா போல 100% அதே குணம் உள்ள பொண்ணு அமையட்டும்!

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honestraj is hardly neutral.
He is a big raja fan.(almost99.9% captan fans are)

Sakalakala Vallavar wrote:ஆனெஷ்டு, உன்னோட விமர்சனத்த நான் ட்டுய்ட்டர்ல போட்டு நல்ல ரெஸ்பான்ஸ் யா! சும்மா பின்னிட்ட போ! உனக்கு சமந்தா அளவுக்கு இல்லேன்னாலும் அதுல பாதி அளவு அழகு, சமந்தா போல 100% அதே குணம் உள்ள பொண்ணு அமையட்டும்!

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Waita nimit for 5 nimits. teknikalsta consult paNNittu solREn. V_S....

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yEs V_S. andha forumla post-Oda top right-la oru chinna button irukkum. adhula "Copy Shortcut"-nu oru option irukkum. adhai apdiyE linkA use paNNalAm..

kid_glove wrote:NEPV, Good only no? Far better in certain aspects than VTV.

+1 watched the movie today, totally liked it. Far better than VTV and easily one of the best movie of 2012.

what`s wrong with critic`s? why this movie is thrashed

Liked the way GPM used Raja song to convey the pain/joy/breakup etc . would be watching the movie again