Hindi film music - Old is Gold
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My favourite from Haqeeqat:
Actually, I think there is an element of MM influence in some of Ilayaraja's compositions. The ghazal flavour may not be there but the element of mystery and unpredictable choices is certainly there.
And for those who like the mystery in MM songs, Naushad's Saathi soundtrack is a must.
Actually, I think there is an element of MM influence in some of Ilayaraja's compositions. The ghazal flavour may not be there but the element of mystery and unpredictable choices is certainly there.
And for those who like the mystery in MM songs, Naushad's Saathi soundtrack is a must.
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Dil Dhoondta Hai Phir wohi fursat ke rat din.....
I always love these kind of clips
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vy3nkTiSZ6M
where the composer is thinking(or singing) aloud his rough ideas, trying out the alternatives before hitting upon the final version, which is this case was pure gold.
Bhupinder had that deep voice, with a dreamy kind of effect, well suited for Ghazal kind of singing.
I always love these kind of clips
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vy3nkTiSZ6M
where the composer is thinking(or singing) aloud his rough ideas, trying out the alternatives before hitting upon the final version, which is this case was pure gold.
Bhupinder had that deep voice, with a dreamy kind of effect, well suited for Ghazal kind of singing.
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Nigahen Milane Ko Jee Chahta Hai
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBo-wwCttec
indha qawwali konjam IR's style ai ninaika vaikiradhu.......
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBo-wwCttec
indha qawwali konjam IR's style ai ninaika vaikiradhu.......
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Usha wrote:Nigahen Milane Ko Jee Chahta Hai
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBo-wwCttec
indha qawwali konjam IR's style ai ninaika vaikiradhu.......
nalla irukku but I dont know hindi so onnum puriyala....
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Just breathtaking. No words. Madan MOhan seems to have had a fondness for the sitar.
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Another song in the same haunting spree from Madan Mohan, Lata and his Sitar Raga Madhuvanthi this time.
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Yes, splendid song. Rasm-e-ulfat, Aaj socha to aansoo and Lag jaa gale have received innumerable F5 clicks from me the last few weeks.
Rasm-e-ulfat strikes me as a possible inspiration for Raja's Ennulil engo, which I think is also based on Madhuvanti? IR clearly is a fan of the HFM masters.
Rasm-e-ulfat strikes me as a possible inspiration for Raja's Ennulil engo, which I think is also based on Madhuvanti? IR clearly is a fan of the HFM masters.
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Beautiful, poignant Lata solo from Love in Tokyo. Probably my favourite from the soundtrack but somehow not as popular as the other tracks.
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You're rightfring151 wrote:Rasm-e-ulfat strikes me as a possible inspiration for Raja's Ennulil engo, which I think is also based on Madhuvanti? IR clearly is a fan of the HFM masters.
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fring151 wrote: IR clearly is a fan of the HFM masters.
Speaking of which, that is the other, underrated source material for IR. We talk about his grasp of Tamil folk music, Carnatic as well as Western music. But to achieve his unique brand of Indo-Western synthesis, he had to also incorporate the more understated, sophisticated inflections of HFM which, in my carefully considered opinion, are not so evident in MSV's work, more so MSV solo while it comes through at times in MSV-TKR. Emotionally speaking, the MSV approach had more limited dimensions compared to HFM (which is why to this day my interest in it is somewhat limited beyond appreciating the vocal melody itself which is often very good). HFM covered a wide array of romantic hues and IR captured that quality and even expanded on it, taking it to unprecedented heights (because he is IR!). My father has often said the effect of SPB singing sweetly on melodic Raja numbers is evocative of Rafi and I agree, especially songs like Enna Satham, Kaalai Nera Poonguyil.
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That's a good point. IR though, often talks about his indebtedness to and fondness of HFM composers. Agree also about SPB's singing. He himself has often said Rafi is his favourite singer, so the influence is definitely there.
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Def, IR has been very forthcoming in acknowledging his debt to HFM but perhaps because his audience is mainly from the South, it is not highlighted enough. It is also less obvious than his Western influence because Hindustani and Carnatic share more similarities and the differences are nuanced.
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Very nice interludes on this one.
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Another beautiful, poignant, evocative MM song. There is a strange sort of allure to these compositions almost making one nostalgic for a past that never was. Glad to have been introduced to his music thanks to CK, DM and other forummers.
My favourite MM songs thus far, in no particular order:
Aap ki nazaron
Lag jaa gale
Jo hamne daastan
Chirag dil ka
Rasm-e-ulfat
zaraa si aahat
Mere pyaar mein
P.S: More recos please
My favourite MM songs thus far, in no particular order:
Aap ki nazaron
Lag jaa gale
Jo hamne daastan
Chirag dil ka
Rasm-e-ulfat
zaraa si aahat
Mere pyaar mein
P.S: More recos please
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Another MM lovely. Guessing this is one Aalayamaniyin Osai Naan Ketten situation. MM with his Sitar is in his element again:fring151 wrote:
P.S: More recos please
Another favorite from my collection. Naina Barse Rim Jhim (which Veda copied into Tamil as Naane Varuven ):
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One of my absolute favourites of MM is the unreleased Kaise Kategi Zindagi Tere Bagair. Indeed.
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Some classical MM
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Great. "Nainon me badraa chaaye" is added to my playlist now. Thanks!
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Heard this lovely Salil Chowdhury song on radio today after ages.
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^^^ One of my favourites of Salil da, certainly.
Reminds me (randomly and not because of any similarity) of another of RDB's quirky, under-appreciated songs.
Reminds me (randomly and not because of any similarity) of another of RDB's quirky, under-appreciated songs.
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Reminds me of my most favorite Hindi earworm of these days. Salilda again here. Only 2 words. Master tunesmith:
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Love that song. Anand is a masterpiece album. "Naa jaane kyon" is actually in the same vein as "Zindagi kaisi hai paheli".
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And created one small playlist based on that Anand song and one kutti discussion I had with Raaga_Suresh, Plum and one @diogeneb on twitter, starting with Salilda and ending with IR. Not exactly old Hindi but old Bengali (includes one Rabindra Sangeet influenced by Muthuswami Deekshithar ), old Hindi and IR and some of the his influences in Hindi and some of my all time favorite Hindi and Bengali songs thrown in:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLn4GJpNVAHewcVG001PIpb21qTVA3fjvB
Give it a listen whenever
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLn4GJpNVAHewcVG001PIpb21qTVA3fjvB
Give it a listen whenever
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am a great fan of na jaane kyun too. Evokes strong sense of nostalgia even for smoeone who hadn't listened to this song at that time. That is the power of a strong melody.
Same actress, same composer, another breathtaking song, one of LataM's very best
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qa58miSJ-c
Reg, Anand depending on your mood you could pick a favourite. The tamil version of naa jiya laage naan is one of my alltime SPB favourites, one of the very best songs he got to sing in Tamil-naan yennum pozhudhu from azhiyaadha kolangal. Again it has the power to evoke nostalgia in you even if you listened to it like for the first time only yesterday
Same actress, same composer, another breathtaking song, one of LataM's very best
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qa58miSJ-c
Reg, Anand depending on your mood you could pick a favourite. The tamil version of naa jiya laage naan is one of my alltime SPB favourites, one of the very best songs he got to sing in Tamil-naan yennum pozhudhu from azhiyaadha kolangal. Again it has the power to evoke nostalgia in you even if you listened to it like for the first time only yesterday
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ah..one of the greatest preludes of all time. Just kills you again and again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cn5GfRoihKI
so much emotion.
As a kid I had re-shot this song again completely in my head with the then then most expressive actors of our times, Kamal and Banupariya, two of my favourites. A slightly rainy night, Kamal with a forlorn loom on his face, glancing back at the balcony here she is standing...Banupriya trying to avoid looking at him straight in the eye but as always speaking volumes with just her eyes. I had everything planned out in my head. If only I could have landed a producer..:-) such is the power of these songs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cn5GfRoihKI
so much emotion.
As a kid I had re-shot this song again completely in my head with the then then most expressive actors of our times, Kamal and Banupariya, two of my favourites. A slightly rainy night, Kamal with a forlorn loom on his face, glancing back at the balcony here she is standing...Banupriya trying to avoid looking at him straight in the eye but as always speaking volumes with just her eyes. I had everything planned out in my head. If only I could have landed a producer..:-) such is the power of these songs
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