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Post  app_engine Mon Apr 15, 2013 11:55 pm

#6 vAlibamE vA vA (Ram Latchuman, SPB-SPS) : http://www.thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer.asp?sngs='SNGIRR3017'&lang=en

Well, this song was my personal "most sought after" from the album because it really had "cool sounds" for that time period Smile Looking back, the other three songs that Vaali wrote had somewhat better lyrics and melodies (vizhiyil un vizhiyil, nadakkattum rAjA namma rAjjiyam & nAn dhAN ongoppandA nalla muththuthEvandA).

Let's see what vaira varigaL this hit song had :

வாலிபமே வா வா தேனிசையே வா வா
மேவிய வானம் யாவும் பாடிய கானம் போகும்
நான் விடும் மூச்செலாம் ராகமே

வாலிபமே வா வா தேனிசையே வா வா
மன்மத ராகம் தானே இன்னிசை யாவும் தேனே
நான் ஒரு புன்னகை மேனகை

காதில் வந்து தோகை மயில் காதல் சொல்லும் இளம் தேகம் துள்ளும்
காளை அவன் பாடலுக்குத்தாளம் சொல்லும் இவள் காதல் உள்ளம்
கலைகளில் உல்லாசம் கவிதையில் சந்தோஷம்
அட ஆளை விடு காதலுக்கு நேரமில்லையே இளம் ஜாதி முல்லையே

காதல் எனும் தேன் குடங்கள் கண்ணில் சுமப்பேன் அதில் உன்னை நனைப்பேன்
வானவில்லில் நார் கிழித்து மாலை தொடுப்பேன் அதை சூடி முடிப்பேன்
நானொரு பூபாளம் நீயொரு பொய் ராகம்
தாமரையில் நீர்த்துளிகள் ஒட்டுவதில்லை அது சட்டமும் இல்லை

Yes, there are some VM-trade mark lines like "வானவில்லில் நார் கிழித்து" (funny uyarvu naviRchi) , "தாமரையில் நீர்த்துளிகள் ஒட்டுவதில்லை" (science teacher), "அது சட்டமும் இல்லை" (communism in cabaret dance, like 'kELvikaLAl vELvi' in nature appreciation) & 'பொய் ராகம்' (his typical "shock-value" thingy) Laughing

However, this was mostly "word-fitting-to-a-mettu-by-breaking-words-into-meaningless-syllables" kind and not smooth / impressive IMHO!

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Post  app_engine Tue Apr 16, 2013 8:02 pm

#7 from tik tik tik - poo malarndhida nadamidum pon mayilE : http://www.thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer.asp?sngs='SNGIRR3709'&lang=en

This was supposedly a very big budget, "high visibility" project (BR-Kamal combo with 3 heroines in swimsuit) for that time period. Basking in the success of alaigaL Oyvadhillai, BR was everywhere in the media. The "stills" obviously made much more noise, courtesy Madhavi.

Possibly the old song 'mAdhavipponmayilAL thOgai viriththAL' inspired VM to write the line 'poo malarndhida nadamidum pon mayilE' :-)

Lovely pallavi (though the " I love you" part to make it sound cool spoils the aesthetics) :

பூ மலர்ந்திட நடமிடும் பொன்மயிலே
நின்றாடும் உன் பாதம் பொன்பாதம்
விழிகளால் இரவினை விடியவிடு
நான் நடமிட உருகிய திருமகனே
விழிகளில் நிலவுகள் தெரிகிறதோ?

Once into the first saraNam, VM gets into his "pAttALi varggam" stuff in a romantic song (இது என்ன நீதி, எரிகின்ற ஜோதி, உறங்காத ஜாதி) and adds that snake stuff to bring it down from the 'classic' status to 'youththu song' Embarassed

ஏன் இந்தக்கோபம்? யார் தந்த சாபம்?
நீ மேடை மேகம் ஏன் மின்னல் வேகம்?
கெடுத்தானே சிரிக்கின்ற பாவி தடுத்தானே இது என்ன நீதி?
உனக்காக் எரிகின்ற ஜோதி இவன் இன்று உறங்காத ஜாதி
படுக்கையில் பாம்பு நெளியுது தலையணை நூறு கிழியுது
நீ அணிகிற ஆடையில் ஒரு நூலென தினம் நான் இருந்திட சநிதபமபதநி

The second saraNam, except for the "சுடச்சுட" part, is lovely / beautiful!

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தேனாறு ஒன்று நீராடும் இங்கே
பூமாலை ஒன்று தோள் சேரும் இங்கே
இலை ஆடை உடுத்தாத பூக்கள் செடி மீது சிரிக்கின்ற நாட்கள்
சுடச்சுட ஆசை வருகுது இவள் மனம் தீயில் நனையுது
போதையில் ஒரு தாமரை மலர் தான் உடைந்தது தேன் நடந்தது சநிதபமபதநி

He also adds that lovely "விழிகளில் தெரிவது விடுகதையோ?" variation to the pallavi in the end Smile

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Post  app_engine Wed Apr 17, 2013 8:18 pm

#8 also from tik tik tik "idhu oru nilAkkAlam"

One of my all-time-fav rAsA songs and very interesting first line by VM! Very influential phrase among story writers / column writers etc since its arrival. Though the song has some adult content, it's reasonably camouflaged unlike 'Ayiram thAmarai' or 'andhi mazhai'.

Or, may be it wasn't as shocking as the heroini's dhArALam and hence didn't contribute much to the "matRa" kind of impact on this impressionable youth of 12th grade / 1st year college Wink Actually the 'nadhir dhanna' business that IR often associates with matRadhu is stronger Laughing

BTW, please believe me, my most favourite part of the movie then and now are the BGM pieces, fantastic score by rAsA! We discussed it endlessly in hostel and often I shamelessly "sung" them...As I write this, the rA-rara-rara piece when Kamal searches for Swapna's phone number plays in my mind.

Back to the lovely kavidhai by VM, describing the three beauties...let's get those lines here: http://www.thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer.asp?sngs='SNGIRR3707'&lang=en

இது ஒரு நிலாக்காலம் இரவுகள் கனாக்காணும்
ஆடை கூட பாரமாகும் பாரிஜாதம் ஈரமாகும்
இளமையே வசந்த வானம் பறவையே வருகவே

பாவை கண்டாலே நிலவு நெளியாதோ
அழகைக் கண்டாலே அருவி நிமிராதோ
வண்டு வந்து உடைக்காத பூவும் நீயே
யாரும் வந்து நடக்காத சாலை நீயே.
உள்ளங்கையில் சொர்க்கம் வந்து உறங்கக் கண்டாளே

தங்க தேகங்கள் துள்ளி ஆடாதோ
ராஜ மேகங்கள் பூவைத் தூவாதோ
கண்ணாடி உனைக் கண்டு கண்கள் கூசும்
வானவில்லும் நகச்சாயம் வந்து பூசும்
பருவப் பூக்கள் புருவம் அசைத்தால் பூமி சுற்றாது

Looks like VM loves வானவில் being used to adorn women Smile As usual, we see his communistic leanings show up as "உள்ளங்கையில் சொர்க்கம்" & "புருவம் அசைத்தால் பூமி சுற்றாது", though nicely fitted here to girls. Full of interesting phrases (நிலவு நெளியாதோ, அருவி நிமிராதோ, தங்க தேகங்கள், ராஜ மேகங்கள், பருவப் பூக்கள்) that decorate the sweet melody & orchestration!

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Post  kiru Wed Apr 17, 2013 8:21 pm

Long ago in TFMPage they came up with an 'algorithm' for VM's songs. It was based on OO concepts - for eg. object-attribute-action - thEnaaru indu neeraadum - i.e. the object itself becomes the subject of its own action. Also, vErvai is another favorite term in his writings (vs vanji in TRs poems).

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Post  app_engine Thu Apr 18, 2013 4:18 pm

#9 andhi mazhai pozhigiRadhu (rAja pArvai, SPB-SJ-TVG) http://www.thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer.asp?sngs='SNGIRR3059'&lang=en

First of all, let me request Jaiganesh to write in detail and appreciate this song in this thread...besides being the best-imagery-specialist, he is the most qualified to write on this specific song IMHO Smile (Because I remember him rebuking me in the hub for a mild ridicule of this number...regardless, I want to compile some of that kind in this post Embarassed )

Unquestionably the most popular of the rAsA-VM numbers, evergreen, great to listen everytime, the words fit kachchidham to the tune etc. Recently heard that even attending the composing session inspired GA to create the 'vandhanam' song of vAzhvE mAyam! Quite a powerful song!

Also, the song got maximum press at the time of arrival - VM got featured in every Thamizh mag during that time and often asked to explain meaning for some phrases.

"இந்திரன் தோட்டத்து முந்திரியே" அப்படீன்னா என்ன அர்த்தம்?

"இந்திரன் வீரியமிக்கவன். முந்திரியும் வீரியமிக்கது. அப்போ இந்திரன் தோட்டத்து முந்திரி எவ்வளவு அதிக வீரியத்தோட இருக்கும்?"

I guess some cashew growers' association paid VM to promote their product among "struggling" men Laughing The problem is IR / Kamal / Singeetham ghOshti spoiled the fun by making SPB sing those lines (directing them to the girl) instead of SJ singing it directing to the boy. ellAm pOchchu!

There's another funny thing "தேனில் வண்டு மூழ்கும்போது பாவம் என்று வந்தாள் மாது" -what is there to pity about confused and rescue the vaNdu? Also, since the poo that gives honey is THE girl, who is this another மாது who comes to the rescue? A second lady? Laughing

The song of course had a number of VM-patented-stuff ("நெஞ்சுக்குள் தீ", "தண்ணீரில் மூழ்கிக்கொண்டே தாகம்", "தேகம் யாவும் தீயின் தாகம்", "தண்ணீரில் நிற்கும் போதே வேர்க்கின்றது"). While such ones may be made fun of today, sure enough, they were novelties at the time of arrival!

Finally, on the first line of the pallavi : IR made fun of it during later years, like, 'how can the blind hero see the face of the girl in each drop of rain water?'...Most people, means me included, had simply dismissed it as his ridicule of VM due to their saNdai. Personally, I even questioned like 'Wasn't IR part of the group that signed-off the pallavi in 1981, even enjoyed the success and populartity those days, so why is he bringing it up now'...

Well, when I started to write about this song in this thread, I started wondering how can IR be so naive not to understand what the "rain" really was Laughing (especially considering that it was supposed to be sung by the girl to start with, including the cashew part)! Well, let's not get into risque stuff -sufficient to mention (given the overall stuff of the song) that it's another "science lesson" in reproduction / genetics Laughing

அந்தி மழை பொழிகிறது ஒவ்வொரு துளியிலும் உன் முகம் தெரிகிறது
இந்திரன் தோட்டத்து முந்திரியே மன்மத நாட்டுக்கு மந்திரியே

தேனில் வண்டு மூழ்கும் போது பாவம் என்று வந்தாள் மாது
நெஞ்சுக்குள் தீயை வைத்து மோகம் என்பாய் தண்ணீரில் மூழ்கிக்கொண்டே தாகம் என்பாய்
தனிமையிலே வெறுமையிலே எத்தனை நாளடி இளமயிலே
கெட்டன இரவுகள் சுட்டன கனவுகள் இமைகளின் சுமையடி இளமயிலே

தேகம் யாவும் தீயின் தாகம் தாகம் தீர நீதான் மேகம்
கண்ணுக்குள் முள்ளை வைத்து யார் தைத்தது தண்ணீரில் நிற்கும் போதே வேர்க்கின்றது
நெஞ்சப்பொரு கொஞ்சமிரு தாவணி விசிறிகள் வீசுகிறேன்
மன்மதன் அம்புகள் தைத்த இடங்களில் சந்தனமாய் எனைப் பூசுகிறேன்

அந்தி மழை பொழிகிறது ஒவ்வொரு துளியிலும் உன் முகம் தெரிகிறது
சிப்பியில் தப்பிய நித்திலமே, ரகசிய ராத்திரிப்புத்தகமே...

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Post  jaiganesh Thu Apr 18, 2013 9:40 pm

i remember us discussing the "nenjapporu" - adhu oru aganaanooru stuff - porudhal is literally fighting - other meaning is waiting, here there are multitudes of meanings applicable. nenjaporu has another significance- the man is blind and how can a girl overwhelm his senses - when the major of the senses - sight is not functioning - only through physical contact - and if it is the first of its kind the man has - just imagine his state - that is why "nenjuporu" and the need for dhaavani visiri. another layer is that it details a sequence that the girl has to do - because she is not blind - but has to carefully take the lead in such stuff so 'nenju poru' - now the meaning is literally hugging - konjam iru - now hold on - i know u are overwhelmed - dhaavani visirigal - cool down and then for that purpose - sandhanamaai enai poosugiren on the places with wounds from the cupid - a literal text book - as decently verbalizable as it can be - pure literotica - but the music is operating on a different plane - it is traveling in pure 'sonic' levels zooming in and out to help the lyrics along - but the pure consummation of the words and music that happens in this song is without a parallel. diamond is unleashed to imagine as much as he can and all the 'il porul uvamai ani' in the form of blind seeing the girl's face in rain drops - suit this song rather well.. all in all - this is one of vairamuthu's best contributions to thamizh film music history.

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Post  app_engine Fri Apr 19, 2013 9:52 pm

WOW Jaiganesh, nice walk-thru of the intimate portion of the song!

nanRi!

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Post  app_engine Fri Apr 19, 2013 10:24 pm

IR-VM hits #10 & #11

There are two more hit songs penned by VM in his "mercurial rise" year of 1981, both from ArAdhanai, and there were no earth-shattering kind of lines in them IIRC. Also, the movie flopped and is now remembered only by those songs. Actually, we shouldn't be talking about the "movie-hit-or-not" status at all when discussing IR-VM songs as most happened to be from commercial flops only Embarassed

That is actually some additional brownie points to VM (as also to IR, because the songs were hits despite the disadvantage). Out of the 11 IR-VM songs in 1980 & 1981, only the three from alaigaL Oyvathillai were from a successful movie.

The lyrics of the ArAdhanai numbers :

iLampaniththuLi vizhum nEram (Radhika)

Song that can boast of terrific orchestration and exuberant singing and some ok lines (with the exception of 'sudachchuda' business that's horrible Laughing )

இளம்பனித்துளி விழும் நேரம் இலைகளில் மகரந்தக்கோலம்
துணைக்கிளி தேடித்துடித்தபடி தனிக்கிளி ஒன்று தவித்தபடி
சுடச்சுட நனைகின்றதே

ஆசை நதி மடை திறக்கும் பாஷை வந்து கதவடைக்கும்
காயாது மன ஈரங்கள் தாளாது சுடுபாரங்கள்
காவியக்காதலின் தேசங்களே ஊமையின் காதலைப் பேசுங்களேன்
மலர்களும் சுடுகின்றதே

பாவை விழித்ததுளி விழுந்து பூவின் பனித்துளி நனையும்
தீயாகும் ஒரு தேன் சோலை போராடும் ஒரு பூமாலை
சூரியகாந்திகள் ஆடியதோ சூரியனை அது மூடியதோ
முகில் வந்து முகம் கொட்டுமோ


oru kungumachchengamalam (SPB-SJ)

Don't know whether it was the director or the kavingar who happened to be the pervert, wanting to show the beautiful Sumalatha as kezhavi Shocked (and the second saraNam written accordingly, absolute nonsense)...no wonder the movie disappeared fast from screens!


ஒரு குங்குமச்செங்கமலம் இள மங்கையின் தங்க முகம்
பசி தூண்டும் அமுதம் தர வேண்டும் கமலம்
உன் கூந்தல் பூவனம்

திருவாய் மலர்வாய் தருவாய் என் பாவாய்
வருவாய் விரைவாய் நான் சூடும் பூவாய்
சாம்பல் ருசிக்க தனியாவா காயைப்புசிக்கும் கனியாவாய்
பூவைக்கு நாங்கள் பூவைக்க வேண்டும் பூலோகம் யாவும் பூக்கொய்ய வேண்டும் மின்னலிலே ஒரு கயிறு எடு மேகங்களால் ஒரு தூளி இடு
கதிரோ தளிரோ இளமகனது திருமுகம்


முதுமை ஒரு நாள் நமை வந்து தீண்டும் மூன்றாம் காலில் நாம் நிற்க வேண்டும்
முடியைப்பார்த்தால் முழு வெள்ளை மடியில் தவழும் மகன் பிள்ளை
நீயேந்திக்கொஞ்ச நான் கொஞ்சம் கெஞ்ச பூப்போன்ற பிஞ்சு என் நெஞ்சில் துஞ்ச
பாயதனில் நீ சாய்ந்திருக்க பசியடங்கி நான் ஓய்ந்திருக்க
இருக்கும் வரைக்கும் எனை தினசரி அனுசரி


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Post  app_engine Mon Apr 22, 2013 7:46 pm

Our VM tracking so far has given 11 hits (1 for 1980 & 10 for 1981).

Also, we've objectively seen that the contribution of VM to the IR rAjyam as a lyric writer until this point had been :

- None in the years 1976, 1977, 1978, 1979 and most part of 1980 - a period during which rAsA had scored 100+ movies with some 300+ hit songs, setting TN ablaze.

-In % terms, less than 2% in the year 1980 with that awesome pon mAlaippozhudhu

-And around 15% in the year 1981 with those 10 hit numbers (I've even posted ALL the hits for IR for that year in one of the posts, VM & otherwise).

Now it's time to move to the next year, a real BIG year for VM, 1982 (with ninaivellAm nithyA)...

Quickly, following are the 26 IR albums for 1982 (list generated based on thiraippAdal with some corrections using rAkkamma) :

AgAya gangai
Anandha rAgam
archanaippookal
Auto rAjA
azhagiye kaNNE
echchil iravugaL
eera vizhikkAviyangaL
engEyO kEtta kural
kAdhal Oviyam
kaNNE rAdhA
kavidhai malar
kOzhi koovudhu
maganE maganE
manjaL nilA
metti
moondRAm piRai
ninaivellAm nithyA
nizhal thEdum nenjangaL
payaNangaL mudivadhillai
puthukkavidhai
rANiththEni
sakalakalA vallavan
thAi moogAmbigai
thanikkAtturAjA
thooral ninnu pOchchu
vAlibamE vA vA


I need to now come up with the TOTAL IR HITS list and then identify those penned by VM to arrive at the %....some work for a few days!

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Post  app_engine Mon Apr 22, 2013 8:20 pm

One good thing about this 1982 hunt is ALL-VINYL-COVERS-except-vAlibamE-vA-vA are available from musicalaya! Smile

That BR movie had 5 lyricists in the titles (Vaali, Muthulingam, Pulamaippiththan, Vairamuthu & GA). So, that seems to be the only challenge for now - who wrote what song in that movie Embarassed

Per my memory, among all IR-BR movies, that one was the least popular album! Still, I had involuntary listens of two songs reasonably frequently (ponvAnappoongAvil & azhagE unnaikkonjam). We need to know if VM had penned one of those two "hits".

For other movies, I should be able to publish the hit-list pretty easily (college year, quick-recall-of-data possible)!

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Post  plum Mon Apr 22, 2013 8:43 pm

Kanne Balam with Beeman-Kaaman rhyming sounds like Vaali( but madhu mAngani could indicate Pulamaipiththan also who had a thing for mAnganis).

pon vaana poonga - kaveri invocation indicates Sreerangam rangarajan; Rhyming neeraga with nooRaga strengthens that suspicion. Anandam-Arambam rhyming almost confirms Vaali

Ennadi Ennadi - situation apt for Amar Singh one guesses

Vai Raaja Vai - no VM-esque lines


By Elimination, Azhage Unnai sounds the likeliest candidate especially ennai unnil ezhudha is typical VM imagery

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Post  app_engine Mon Apr 22, 2013 9:00 pm

plum Smile

That sounds like an easy-to-guess thingy. irundhAlum, I'll continue to hunt if someone does have the vinyl cover and can tell us Smile

BTW, there was another song 'takkaru takkaru, takkaru takkaru, takkaru baby' in that film (that was added on-screen after trade declaring it a disaster, they advertised on posters about the "extra" song). I've never had a chance to hear that song (and don't intend to watch the movie for that Laughing )

A quick look at the vinyls show that VM wrote for an impressive 15 albums of rAsA in that year (out of the 26 we listed above)! And those were : AgAya G, echchi I, EVK, kAdhal O, kaNNE R, kOzhi K, maganE M, MP, NN, nizhal TN, PM, puthu K, rANi T, thooral NP, VVV...at least 5 of them BO hit movies, a big improvement from the prior two years!

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Post  app_engine Tue Apr 23, 2013 1:10 am

Here is my compilation of IR's hit songs in TF 1982, # of songs total & #by VM given within brackets respectively for each movie :

AgAya gangai - thEnaruviyil (1,0)

Anandha rAgam - oru rAgam, kadalOram, mEgam karukkudhu (3,0)

archanai pookkaL - kAviriyE (1,0)

Auto rAjA - sangaththil (1,0)

azhagiya kaNNE - chinnachinnakkaNgaL, yEy mAmA kObamA (2,0)

echchil iravugaL - poo mEla veesum, pooththa malliga (2,0)

eera vizhikkAviyangaL - kAdhal pAN pAdu, en gAnam, kanavil midhakkum (3,2)

engEyO kEtta kural - AththOram, pattu vaNNachchElakkAri, thAyum nAnE (3,0)

kAdhal Oviyam - ammA azhagE, kuyilE, nAdham en, nadhiyil Adum, poojaikkAga, poovil vaNdu, sangeethe jAthimullai, veLLi salangaigaL (8,7)

kaNNE rAdhA - kottungadi, mAlai sooda, kulunga kulunga, vAlipparuvaththilE (4,1)

kavidhai malar - None (0,0)

kOzhi koovudhu - AyarpAdi, aNNE aNNE, poovE, pottappuLLa, veeraiyyA, Edho mOgam, onnA vedha vedhachchu, poRumaiyudan / engum niRaindhirukkum (8,2)

maganE maganE - madhu malargaLE (1,0)

manjaL nilA - vA machchi machchi, iLa manadhinil, poondhenRal (3,0)

metti - metti oli, kalyANam ennai mudikka, sandhakkavikaL (3,0)

moonRAm piRai - vAnengum, narikkadhai, poongAtRu, ponmEni, kaNNE (5,2)

ninaivellAm nithyA - kAnal neer, kannippoNNu, nee dhAnE, panivizhum, rOjavaiththAlAttum, thOLin mElE (6,6)

nizhal thEdum nenjangaL - idhu kanavugaL, iva machchamuLLa, pookkaL sindhungaL (3,3)

payaNangaL mudivadhillai - iLayanilA, rAgadheepam, thOgai iLamayil, yE AththA, sAlaiyOram, maNiyOsai, vaigaRaiyil (7,3)

pudhukkavidhai - vA vA vasanthamE, veLLaippuRA onRu(sugam / sOgam), vArE vA (4,4)

rANiththEni - enna solli nAn ezhudha, rAmanukkE seethai (2,0)

sakalakalA vallavan - amman kOyil, katta vaNdi (2), iLamai, nilA kAyudhu, nEthu rAththiri (6,0)

thAi mookAmbigai - janani, isai arasi, seenaththuppattu mEni, pasikku sORumilla (4,0)

thanikkAttu rAjA - koovungaL sEvalkaLE, mullai arumbE, nAn dhAn tAppu, rAsAvE onna nAn, sandhanakkARRE, nAn dhAndA ippO (6,0)

thooRal ninnu pOchchu - bhoopALam, thangachchangili, thAlAtta, ErikkaraippoongAtRE, En sOgakkathaiyakkELu (5,1)

vAlibamE vA vA - azhagE unnaikkonjam, ponvAnappoongAvil (2,1 - possibly)

Total IR hits, per my observation (most of these patti thotti bus hits, some radio only / recording center kind of hits) - 93 (yammA, in just one year!)

VM penned 32 out of these! Again, quite a remarkable feat, even though most of them vizhalukku iRaiththa kind, for flop movies (kAdhal Oviyam 7, ninaivellAm nithyA 6 taking big share).

So, VM had 34.41% while other lyricists had 65.59%...

I'll try to cover all the VM hits in this thread, giving lyrics and small tit-bits / appreciation! Absolutely no "Ora vanjanai" Smile

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Post  plum Tue Apr 23, 2013 3:02 am

azhagiya kanne - ennangas Naan Irukkum is the topmost song-nga?
EVK - all songs are hit OR all songs are flop - ofcourse I wasnt there but do you think only these 3 songs were hit?

kavidhai malar - alaigalee vaa wasnt a hit?

app_engine wrote:Here is my compilation of IR's hit songs in TF 1982, # of songs total & #by VM given within brackets respectively for each movie :

AgAya gangai - thEnaruviyil (1,0)

Anandha rAgam - oru rAgam, kadalOram, mEgam karukkudhu (3,0)

archanai pookkaL - kAviriyE (1,0)

Auto rAjA - sangaththil (1,0)

azhagiya kaNNE - chinnachinnakkaNgaL, yEy mAmA kObamA (2,0)

echchil iravugaL - poo mEla veesum, pooththa malliga (2,0)

eera vizhikkAviyangaL - kAdhal pAN pAdu, en gAnam, kanavil midhakkum (3,2)

engEyO kEtta kural - AththOram, pattu vaNNachchElakkAri, thAyum nAnE (3,0)

kAdhal Oviyam - ammA azhagE, kuyilE, nAdham en, nadhiyil Adum, poojaikkAga, poovil vaNdu, sangeethe jAthimullai, veLLi salangaigaL (8,7)

kaNNE rAdhA - kottungadi, mAlai sooda, kulunga kulunga, vAlipparuvaththilE (4,1)

kavidhai malar - None (0,0)

kOzhi koovudhu - AyarpAdi, aNNE aNNE, poovE, pottappuLLa, veeraiyyA, Edho mOgam, onnA vedha vedhachchu, poRumaiyudan / engum niRaindhirukkum (8,2)

maganE maganE - madhu malargaLE (1,0)

manjaL nilA - vA machchi machchi, iLa manadhinil, poondhenRal (3,0)

metti - metti oli, kalyANam ennai mudikka, sandhakkavikaL (3,0)

moonRAm piRai - vAnengum, narikkadhai, poongAtRu, ponmEni, kaNNE (5,2)

ninaivellAm nithyA - kAnal neer, kannippoNNu, nee dhAnE, panivizhum, rOjavaiththAlAttum, thOLin mElE (6,6)

nizhal thEdum nenjangaL - idhu kanavugaL, iva machchamuLLa, pookkaL sindhungaL (3,3)

payaNangaL mudivadhillai - iLayanilA, rAgadheepam, thOgai iLamayil, yE AththA, sAlaiyOram, maNiyOsai, vaigaRaiyil (7,3)

pudhukkavidhai - vA vA vasanthamE, veLLaippuRA onRu(sugam / sOgam), vArE vA (4,4)

rANiththEni - enna solli nAn ezhudha, rAmanukkE seethai (2,0)

sakalakalA vallavan - amman kOyil, katta vaNdi (2), iLamai, nilA kAyudhu, nEthu rAththiri (6,0)

thAi mookAmbigai - janani, isai arasi, seenaththuppattu mEni, pasikku sORumilla (4,0)

thanikkAttu rAjA - koovungaL sEvalkaLE, mullai arumbE, nAn dhAn tAppu, rAsAvE onna nAn, sandhanakkARRE, nAn dhAndA ippO (6,0)

thooRal ninnu pOchchu - bhoopALam, thangachchangili, thAlAtta, ErikkaraippoongAtRE, En sOgakkathaiyakkELu (5,1)

vAlibamE vA vA - azhagE unnaikkonjam, ponvAnappoongAvil (2,1 - possibly)

Total IR hits, per my observation (most of these patti thotti bus hits, some radio only / recording center kind of hits) - 93 (yammA, in just one year!)

VM penned 32 out of these! Again, quite a remarkable feat, even though most of them vizhalukku iRaiththa kind, for flop movies (kAdhal Oviyam 7, ninaivellAm nithyA 6 taking big share).

So, VM had 34.41% while other lyricists had 65.59%...

I'll try to cover all the VM hits in this thread, giving lyrics and small tit-bits / appreciation! Absolutely no "Ora vanjanai" Smile

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Post  app_engine Tue Apr 23, 2013 2:35 pm

plum wrote:azhagiya kanne - ennangas Naan Irukkum is the topmost song-nga?
EVK - all songs are hit OR all songs are flop - ofcourse I wasnt there but do you think only these 3 songs were hit?

kavidhai malar - alaigalee vaa wasnt a hit?


Smile

As you probably know, my PoV is mostly from a "dhindukkal, thiruchchi, madhurai" kind of observation (teakkadai, bus, vividh bhArathi, IOKS).

As much as I could be in touch with my Madras cousin (limited communication those days), some status was known but I was mostly oblivious to what was happening in TN capital - other than to the extent media published. (For e.g. payaNangaL mudivadhillai celebrated silver jubilee everywhere, not just in Trichy but in Madras also - like that Laughing )

azhagiya kaNNE - only these two songs (hEy mAmA / chinnachchinna) had frequent playbacks on radio. These weren't that hot otherwise on the "social media". (Our hostel mate obviously had them recorded and we played frequently - 'nAnirukkum' SJ number I love too - but I discounted that part in the "hit" consideration which was driven purely by how the public received it).

Same "radio-play-back" is the consideration for the EVK songs. (kAdhal paNpAdu, en gAnam were more frequent than 'kanavil midhakkum'. Others never on radio).

I remember posting a few times about how I had been dragged to the movie by this Thanjavur guy, even though it didn't last beyond a couple of days in theater. We had the TDK-recorded-songs much before the movie's arrival and I loved them prior to watching that Pradhap-Radhika joke of a film.

About kavidhai malar - never heard them those days, first time listen in thiraippAdal only. Do I need to say more, about an early 80's song?


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Post  sagi Tue Apr 23, 2013 4:17 pm

EVK was scripted by Ananthu. So can expect some qOlity. Everytime I think of watching it Appji's posts discourage me. Laughing

Even I am surprised that naan irukkum wasn't that big a hit back then. Because in this Internet era, that's the only popular song from azhagiya kaNNE. What a lovely song that is. Distortion guitars to veeNai, remember posting about it in twitter. The scene which precedes the song was so similar to the famous Johnny proposal scene.

Pardon the digs Embarassed

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Post  V_S Tue Apr 23, 2013 5:01 pm

Great analysis App ji. echchil Iravugal poo mElE veesum poongaatrE ( it is not VM I think) was a big hit and almost frequently played on radio and TV.

So those red highlighted songs were written by VM (hit or not), correct?

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Post  app_engine Tue Apr 23, 2013 5:27 pm

V_S wrote:So those red highlighted songs were written by VM (hit or not), correct?

Mostly correct - yes, the red ones are by VM.

The minor correction is, ALL the songs listed in that post are HITS Smile

Other songs are not listed / considered in this case Embarassed

'poo mEla veesum poongAththE' (KJY/VJ) is credited to Vallapan. (Could be M G Vallaban but the vinyl is missing the initials).

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Post  app_engine Wed Apr 24, 2013 7:44 pm

#12 kAdhal paN pAdu (eera vizhikkAviyangaL, KJY)

Climax song of that movie - where the dream of becoming a stage singer is achieved by the poor Prathap. When he starts to sing, could not find the main motivating force -the lady love Radhika - in the audience and accordingly the "பாடகன் இங்கே, மாலைகள் இங்கே, தேவதை எங்கே?" phrase gets repeated in the saraNam.

I guess the 80's had a number of movies centered around light music singers and some had big success. (Sridevi was one in Johny, Mohan in a number of movies, notably payaNangaL mudivadhillai in the same year 1982, Ambika in nAn pAdum pAdal). Most were powered by the music of rAsA and VM had some nice contribution there as well.

This movie, unfortunately, failed to click despite the best efforts of IR. This particular song, which is supposed to showcase the "pain-relief" situation of the aspiring singer, gets totally side-tracked because of the "lover-missing" situation presented by the director. So, it's a mixed-emotions scenario and VM aptly caught it in the lines:

காதல் பண் பாடு! யோகம் கொண்டாடு!
சிந்தாதே கண்ணீரே போதும் விடு !
சந்தோஷம் பொங்கும் சங்கீதச்சங்கம்
ஏழைச்சிப்பி முத்துப்பிள்ளை ஈனும் தினம்

சங்கீத ஆறுதல் தந்தாளே பூமகள்
ஒரு கார்காலத்தில் என் பூந்தோட்டத்தில் எதிர்பாராத மாறுதல்
என் நெஞ்சின் பசி கண்ணீரின் ருசி அவை தீராத சாபங்கள்
பாடகன் இங்கே, மாலைகள் இங்கே, தேவதை எங்கே?
சொல்லுங்களேன்!

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என் நெஞ்சின் வலி இன்று தீரும் வழி வந்து சொன்னாளே தேவதை
என் தேன் தேசத்தில் என் ராஜாங்கத்தில் இனி நாள் தோறும் பூமழை
பாடகன் இங்கே, மாலைகள் இங்கே, தேவதை எங்கே?
சொல்லுங்களேன்!

There are a number of VM-specials in this song ( ஏழைச்சிப்பி, சங்கீத ஆறுதல், கண்ணீரின் ருசி, சந்தோஷ வேதனை)...

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Post  app_engine Wed Apr 24, 2013 10:37 pm

#13 en gAnam inRu arangERum (IR / Jency, eeravizhikkAviyangaL)

V_Sji has written about this song in the rAsA duets thread of the hub IIRC. Extremely sweet guitar number and IR perhaps got reminded of his own struggle prior to hitting it big and that emotional pain is felt in his singing! There's no question VM captured such feel nicely in the pallavi.

However, there's this "love" equation that keeps coming up in all those "aspiring musician" movies of those days (often as to how a girl motivated the boy or how she made sure he gets into self-pity mode to create poems / music etc). According to that rule, the saraNams are forced to bring that equation and some pulambal singing by the girl in the end.

Typical VM elements (love+communism, positive+negative etc) are present in the song, e.g. பாலைவனத்தின் பனிமழை, சருகு மலர்ந்திடுமே, சங்கீத மாநாடு, இமை மீது சுடுகின்ற கனவு Smile

என் கானம் இன்று அரங்கேறும்
என் சோகம் இன்று வெளியேறும்
ஏழை சொன்ன கீதம் கேட்கவில்லை யாரும்
இன்று எந்தன் ராகம் வானம் வரை போகும்

நான் தனிமைப்பறவை, சிறகொன்று நீ தா!
ஒரு பூஞ்சருகு மலர்ந்திடுமே ஹோ
பாலைவனத்தின் பனிமழையே வா
கோடை வெயிலில் குடை தர வா
இனி சங்கீத மாநாடு சந்தோஷம் என் பாடு, பாடு தாளம் போடு !

பூ இதழில் நிறங்கள் வரைந்தது யாரோ?
மனதில் உறவை விதைத்தது யாரோ?
கனவின் கனிகள் சுவை தருமோ ஹோ?
நினைவின் நிழல்கள் சுகம் தருமோ?
இரு கண்மூடி நின்றாலும் இமை மீது சுடுகின்ற கனவு நெஞ்சில் துஞ்சும்

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Post  app_engine Wed Apr 24, 2013 10:59 pm

en gAnam youtube (decent picturization, I guess Prathap & Radhika were dating then):

kAdhal paN pAdu youtube:



I guess these were the contributions of RajsMed who used to visit the hub...

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Post  app_engine Thu Apr 25, 2013 6:42 pm

#14 thangachchangili minnum paingiLi (thooRal ninnu pOchchu, MV-SJ)

If someone simply told me there's a new rAsA song that goes like 'thangachchangili', I would've felt irritated those days - as that wasn't really a "cool" phrase among "educated" Laughing Very much a "country" word for chain (which is how even most illiterates used to call the ornament, "thangaththula chainu senjirukkAnga" is quite common).

However, it didn't happen that way but I first got the opportunity of LISTENING to that awesome, awesome song and really didn't care what words got packaged into it - power of rAsA music those days!

Looking back, it's not all that "forced-country-style" lyrics but generally ok...but there's also some touch of sophistication to the lines.

i.e. The VM version of sophistication - "வேர்வைகளில் நீராடினாள்" Ilayaraja & Vairamuthu Combo - Checks & Balances (198 hits processed) - Page 3 2771630437

Well, the last line is definitely terrific poem : "இதழில் இதழால் கடிதம் எழுது", what an interesting situation there Laughing

தங்கச்சங்கிலி மின்னும் பைங்கிளி தானே கொஞ்சியதோ
இனி தஞ்சம் மல்லிகை மஞ்சம் என்றிவன் தோளில் துஞ்சியதோ
மலர்மாலை தலையணையாய் சுகமே பொதுவாய்
ஒருவாய் அமுதம் மெதுவாய்ப்பருகியபடி

காவல் நூறு மீறி காதல் செய்யும் தேவி
உன் சேலையில் பூவேலைகள் உன் மேனியில் பூஞ்சோலைகள்
அந்திப்பூ விரியும் அதன் ரகசியம் சந்தித்தால் தெரியும்
இவளின் கனவு தணியும் வரையில் விடியாது திருமகள் இரவுகள்

ஆடும் பொம்மை மீது ஜாடை சொன்ன மாது
தன்னோடு தான் போராடினாள் வேர்வைகளில் நீராடினாள்
அன்பே ஆடை கொடு எனை அனுதினம் அள்ளிச் சூடி விடு
இதழில் இதழால் கடிதம் எழுது ஒரு பேதை உறங்கிட மடி கொடு


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Post  app_engine Fri Apr 26, 2013 9:15 pm

#15 vAnengum thanga vinmeeNgaL (moonRAm piRai, SPB-SJ)

Fantastic song that showcases the poet's ability to beautifully portray nature in words!

Nice one by VM after his lovely idhu oru ponmAlaippozhudhu & idhu oru nilAkkAlam - though this one didn't get as much recognition as those two. (I guess that must be due to the reason that the song was not included in the disks that could hold only 4 numbers...also I believe in some places it wasn't on movie, apart from the fact that even where it was included in the movie, there was only half the song...the accident happens during the second interlude).

வானெங்கும் தங்க விண்மீன்கள் விழி இமை மூட
சூரியன் வந்து கடல் குளித்தேறும் நேரம்
வானில் ஒரு தீபாவளி நாம் பாடலாம் கீதாஞ்சலி

கீழை வானமெங்கும் தீயின் ஓவியம்
கண்கள் போதை கொள்ளும் காலைக் காவியம்
கரையின் மீது அலைக்கென்ன மோகம்
நுரைகள் வந்து கோலம் போடுதே

ரோஜா ஒன்று இன்று அலையில் ஆடலாம்
அவள் பாதம் பட்ட மண்ணை ஏலம் போடலாம்
உன்னைப்பார்த்தால் கரையேறும் மீன்கள்
உள்ளங்கைகள் ரோஜாத்தீவுகள்


As usual, the second stanza jumps away from the original theme of "sunrise appreciation" to "girl-beauty-joLLu" (மண்ணை ஏலம் போடலாம் / கரையேறும் மீன்கள் etc). I think this was the time period when there was a news report about people who came to the shooting spot where "silukku" was dancing dying to eat the apple bitten by her and consequently there was an "auction" Shocked

Perhaps that influenced VM to write about the "ஏலம் போடலாம்" business Ilayaraja & Vairamuthu Combo - Checks & Balances (198 hits processed) - Page 3 3325497835

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Post  Punnaimaran Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:16 pm

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You have terrific memory.

Yes, I remember the தினத்த்ந்தி news heading "சிலுக்கு கடித்த ஆப்பிள் 108 ரூபாய்க்கு ஏலம் !!" Very Happy
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Post  app_engine Mon Apr 29, 2013 4:45 am

Punnaimaran sir,
Smile
Yes, I remember many magazines reporting such a ridiculous sambhavam Smile

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