Super Singer - Singers of the future

app_engine wrote:VM's first love

Though Vijay TV would like to make us believe that the dialog between VM & gObi was extempore / impromptu, only the most naive would take it that way.

IMO, there must be strong reasons for VM to accept to the 7-years-ongoing-demand of Vijay TV and it's possible VM & gObi had detailed discussion as to what to include in their conversation. (Such as Sun-TV in trouble, Jaya-TV may not like VM etc)

In all their preparations, they've lost sight of (or deliberately ignored) the "tfmpage" fellows who kept picking on Vairam for vErvai & dhAgam. (Of these two, during recent days, I've removed dhAgam from VM's possessions as the same had been copyrighted by Bharathiar)

Based on the above link, I've tweeted  my experience:

gObi : Your first love?
VM : Birds, because they have no vErvai
:ROTFL:
vErvai is VM's OCD :-)
 #LoveAndSweatRelativesPerVM

Hahaha. Good catch. I had missed it!

fring151 wrote:

Drunkenmunk wrote:Can't believe Madhumitha was chosen over Soundarya. Soundarya isn't the greatest singer of the 10 and would have to go someday but Madhumitha's rendition on the day couldn't have been worse. Soundarya's was better than Madhumitha's. Sujatha said she liked Soundarya's rendition. Why this dishonesty? pidikkalennA pidikkalEnnu sollu, yEn pidikkalEnnu sollEn. Pch.

Madhumita should have been eliminated the week she sang 'Indha minminikku'

By this yardstick every single one of them must have been eliminated by now

The only worthy singer to come out in 7 years of super singer is Priyanka.

Yesterday only Diwakar did justice to the song.  I was happy with Parvathy's selection but her rendition was disappointing.  Again, like Rojavai Thalatum Thendral, took some shortcuts in the melody and even avoided rolling one of the sangithis (second line of charanam). It's actually a very tough song though it superficially sounds like standard gramathu Raja.  Sadhana Sargam richly deserved the National Award for this one.  Another sleepy rendition from Krishnan.

Nerd wrote:

fring151 wrote:

Drunkenmunk wrote:Can't believe Madhumitha was chosen over Soundarya. Soundarya isn't the greatest singer of the 10 and would have to go someday but Madhumitha's rendition on the day couldn't have been worse. Soundarya's was better than Madhumitha's. Sujatha said she liked Soundarya's rendition. Why this dishonesty? pidikkalennA pidikkalEnnu sollu, yEn pidikkalEnnu sollEn. Pch.

Madhumita should have been eliminated the week she sang 'Indha minminikku'

By this yardstick every single one of them must have been eliminated by now

The only worthy singer to come out in 7 years of super singer is Priyanka.

Sonia has been doing quite well I think, though Unni was right yesterday about repeated improvisations in Nee oru kadhal sangeetham.

A surprisingly effective performance of Pottu Vaithu Kadhal by Arvind. Loved the 'grrr' gritty effects.  I would have just liked some vibrato in the long sustained passages in the charanam.

Wow, another 'great' elimination.  Diligent and hard working Sai Vignesh goes out while the highly inconsistent Madhumita gets yet another chance because she's supposed to be so talented and all that.

Ridiculous isn't it? It's a joke. I just hate Madhumitha's diction and her find her singing attitude to be very fake and annoying. . Also, ridiculous song choices by some of the others compared to Sai Vignesh. Songs like Marilyn monroe cloning, kaathaadi pole should be banned in these contests. How can they even judge somehow who sings these songs against Sai Vignesh's attempt at Sinthanai sei maname, which I thought was pretty good! On another note, I liked Srinivas Murthy's comments and found him to be balanced and fair for the most part.

fring151 wrote:Ridiculous isn't it? It's a joke. I just hate Madhumitha's diction and her find her singing attitude to be very fake and annoying. . Also, ridiculous song choices by some of the others compared to Sai Vignesh. Songs like Marilyn monroe cloning, kaathaadi pole should be banned in these contests. How can they even judge somehow who sings these songs against Sai Vignesh's attempt at Sinthanai sei maname, which I thought was pretty good! On another note, I liked Srinivas Murthy's comments and found him to be balanced and fair for the most part.

Apt..
I was telling my wife just that - what is the emotional maturity one has to get to sing malryn monroe or kaathaadi pola?
And to sai's downfall he chose too good a song for that stage - probably he knew about his impending elimination and sung a song that 
ambikapathy chose in his 'elimination round in kulothunga chola's court' just to prove a point. If I were sai's dad I wouldnt have let him cheapen 
himself in this stage in the first place. It was krishnan's chance to be eliminated and thanks to that delightful charukesi from koyil pura, he lives to get eliminated
in the next round. Even diwakar seems content in singing same kind of songs every week and not challenge  - why not sing some classical or ghazalish song for a change?
This competition is for sure rigged and judges have already made up their mind in favor of some contestants and it shows.
Parvathy continues her lifeless singing and keeps sailing through...

crimson king wrote: Pottu Vaithu Kadhal by Arvind.

I wonder why none of the fellows sitting in "chairs" mention the name of rAsA for this song....(while they kept harping on ARR's name for every song of his, even showing his picture from this singer's wallet etc).



Did they want the naive public to believe that this futuristic number must be some latest hip song from some new composer (and not the "tablA" rAsA)?

jaiganesh wrote:I was telling my wife just that - what is the emotional maturity one has to get to sing malryn monroe or kaathaadi pola?
And to sai's downfall he chose too good a song for that stage - probably he knew about his impending elimination and sung a song that 
ambikapathy chose in his 'elimination round in kulothunga chola's court' just to prove a point. If I were sai's dad I wouldnt have let him cheapen 
himself in this stage in the first place. It was krishnan's chance to be eliminated and thanks to that delightful charukesi from koyil pura, he lives to get eliminated
in the next round. Even diwakar seems content in singing same kind of songs every week and not challenge  - why not sing some classical or ghazalish song for a change?
This competition is for sure rigged and judges have already made up their mind in favor of some contestants and it shows.
Parvathy continues her lifeless singing and keeps sailing through...

To add to this, Syed almost always ends up choosing relatively easy 'energy songs' (almost always ARR ones - Adiye, Aaromale, Marilyn monroe) which don't demand any real nuanced emotional expressions or technical finesse and gets through with judges gushing about his 'energy' and openly admitting they are willing to overlook technical lapses for this 'energy' he brings.

Also, it is evident Sonia has an IR bias, but is forced to attempt a non-IR song every now and then to stay in competition whereas Syed seems to get a free pass with his ARR bias.

Wait until you see today's episode. Syed sings Kodai Kaala Kaatre. Apparently still in Marilyn Monroe mode.

Guitar special it seems. கர்ணகடூரம். But yeah 5 out of 6 songs performed today were Raaja's.

Nerd wrote:Wait until you see today's episode. Syed sings Kodai Kaala Kaatre. Apparently still in Marilyn Monroe mode. 

Guitar special it seems. கர்ணகடூரம். But yeah 5 out of 6 songs performed today were Raaja's.

This is literally the worst butchering of IR songs I have seen ever. Idhukku ivanga IR songs try pannAma irrukardhe nalladhu. I regret complaining about Kaathaadi, Marilyn Monroe now. Maybe they should just stick to that. And I literally feel like punching the judges in their faces for their comments. Worst performance of the day goes to Uravugal thodarkathai, closely followed by Kodai kaala. In fact, IMHO, Gautam Menon and that lone guitarist did a better job with UT at the NEPV show compared to the horror I just witnessed. Best performance was obviously Sonia, who ironically sang the only non-IR song.

Edit: And Keba's sheer nonchalance about Kodai Kaala's interludes and Srini asking for a repeat  (Wall, head, bang). Note to admins: Please try to include this (wall, head, bang) to the list of emoticons. It will immensely enhance the expressive possibilities in this thread.

I've also noticed that whenever they bring the 'band' (instead of the regular orchestra) and IR songs are performed, the interludes are extensively butchered and even the pallavi/charanam portions miss the key elements that provide the tight orchestration and 'joy to listeners' - seems like deliberate sabotaging. And the judges' comments are also usually on the lines of - "sumaar singing but the song was enjoyable because of the band" - it almost seems like they want to downplay IR's original orchestration for these songs (by hinting the band's version was better).

Compare these to Rahman songs by the 'band' where they pretty much play the original "notes" and the judges are all usually on cloud 9 lavishing praises on the contestants and Rahman (as opposed to the band when IR songs are performed)

oru dhadavai vaasikaradha innoru dhadava naan nenachaalum vaasikka mudiyaadhu - keba
dei - jazz and blues loose form dhaan - that doesnt mean it is randomda..

For a change today the judges were like we forgot the original thanks to you for a Rahman song

And this boojA, how the hell did she sing 25 songs (that I don't know even 1 of them is reassuring). Her IR medley was horrible to say the least. And she has severe range issues too. Granted that nalam vaazha was a male solo, but still..

And the solos they played for iLangAththu veesuthE, vENAm aluthuruvEn

Saw the "Sai elimination" youtube (and also his singing of 'sindhanai sey manamE' which wasn't bad at all).

IMG, they've decided much before and even communicated to him in advance

It's possible they've even signed him up for "future shows" (e.g. SS 5). It was funny to see the VJ announcing herself that Sai gets "wild card entry". (She had another tongue slip that all have given their lifeline performances, even before Syed / Madhumitha doing so - another proof that Sai-elimination was pre-planned).

Anyways, at this point of time, none of them seems to be playback-quality-material. Too many shortcomings in each case. So, no need to get irritated (as jaiganesh currently does).

Even otherwise, my interest in the show is limited to how they appreciate rAsA (or try to bring him down).

From that PoV, that ARR-studio-guy (Murthy?) did a nice job of speaking highly of IR's compositions every now and then. 

app_engine wrote:Saw the "Sai elimination" youtube (and also his singing of 'sindhanai sey manamE' which wasn't bad at all).

IMG, they've decided much before and even communicated to him in advance

It's possible they've even signed him up for "future shows" (e.g. SS 5). It was funny to see the VJ announcing herself that Sai gets "wild card entry". (She had another tongue slip that all have given their lifeline performances, even before Syed / Madhumitha doing so - another proof that Sai-elimination was pre-planned).

Anyways, at this point of time, none of them seems to be playback-quality-material. Too many shortcomings in each case. So, no need to get irritated (as jaiganesh currently does).

Even otherwise, my interest in the show is limited to how they appreciate rAsA (or try to bring him down).

From that PoV, that ARR-studio-guy (Murthy?) did a nice job of speaking highly of IR's compositions every now and then. 

i am not irritated that he got eliminated. He is a small kid - but he is a lot better than other clowns and even some clowns judging.

Really bad that SaiVignesh got eliminated. I liked some of his renditions especially Vizhigal Meeno when SPB was present. For his age, he did a lot more justice especially bringing in the emotions. I'm shocked to know that Madhumita is still there, can't remember anything memorable with her performances.

Last two weeks it was a pathetic show especially by the judges, more than the contestants. As I guessed before, Sai's elimination was more of a prejudice than a deserving exit. Poor fellow fell prey to idiotic judges. There is hardly any reason for his exit. Lame reasons. When he was singing sinthanai sei manamE, you have to see Srini's facial expressions, that clearly showed that he was not at all interested in his singing, more anxious (looking somewhere else massaging his mustache) and waiting for his turn to announce his elimination. Very very bad judging. This is the worst I have seen compared to all seasons.

I still could not bear Syed, Madumitha, Aravind are still there, not to mention others. According to me, Sarath Santhosh is the only one who deserves to win the title, but he will be dismissed against their pet mallu singers and Rahman fanatic Syed Subhan. Not watched this week yet, Lost interest in the show.

V_S wrote:Lost interest in the show.

Parvathy seems to have already got signed up by Srini for his MD-avatAr. So, the panel will continue to praise her sky-high, as part of marketing their future product. The more she becomes popular, the more hype for their song in future.

Sarath can easily be dismissed on similar grounds as Sai (immature voice, future prospect etc). They seem to be setting that up going by the guitar-round comments.

Sonia & Krishnan will be shown the door thereafter, giving some "bad-on-that-day" reasons. Both are not too much pro-ARR or pro-modern-MDs.

The question is if not Parvathy, whom else will they pick among the remaining four (Madhumitha, Syed, Aravind & Diwakar).

It is possible they'll crown Diwakar - just to show-off as "we found a mAnikkam from kuppam"...in which case they'll get praise from all quarters
(I think he had every audience somewhat covered, including rAsA group - told once he can sing 100's of rAsA songs by-heart...kAdhal kasakkudhaiyyA etc)

If it happens to be Diwakar, even I may not criticize the judges (means, will let go all their biases / kOLARukaL etc)

app_engine wrote:

V_S wrote:Lost interest in the show.

Parvathy seems to have already got signed up by Srini for his MD-avatAr. So, the panel will continue to praise her sky-high, as part of marketing their future product. The more she becomes popular, the more hype for their song in future.

Sarath can easily be dismissed on similar grounds as Sai (immature voice, future prospect etc). They seem to be setting that up going by the guitar-round comments.

Sonia & Krishnan will be shown the door thereafter, giving some "bad-on-that-day" reasons. Both are not too much pro-ARR or pro-modern-MDs.

The question is if not Parvathy, whom else will they pick among the remaining four (Madhumitha, Syed, Aravind & Diwakar).

It is possible they'll crown Diwakar - just to show-off as "we found a mAnikkam from kuppam"...in which case they'll get praise from all quarters
(I think he had every audience somewhat covered, including rAsA group - told once he can sing 100's of rAsA songs by-heart...kAdhal kasakkudhaiyyA etc)

If it happens to be Diwakar, even I may not criticize the judges (means, will let go all their biases / kOLARukaL etc)

Diwakar - truth be told is a limited singer. he has not done one pathos/slow melody proper till date. If they give him, they will be giving a true 'have-not' and that will be that.
As far as sharath is concerned - he is a fully rounded singer and the last one with a good technical grounding left standing in the competition.

jaiganesh wrote:As far as sharath is concerned - he is a fully rounded singer and the last one with a good technical grounding left standing in the competition.

Yes, totally agree!

However, nAm onRu ninaikka "visay TV + judges gumbal" vERonRu ninaikkum

One thing I've recently observed is this paiyan has become careful nowadays - avoids rAsA songs, sings ARR numbers as much as possible

jaiganesh wrote:Diwakar - truth be told is a limited singer.

Of course, idhilenna sandhEham?

In one way or other every one of them is "undeserving"...so, yArukkuk koduththAlum it makes no difference to TFM (or me )!

However, it makes a bigger difference to the candidate, in this boy's case - avvaLavE

i.e. no one will be unhappy in him getting a big prize, firsttO / secondO, EdhO onnu...

curiosity kostin :
will there be public voting and all, for the top two spots?

app_engine wrote:curiosity kostin :
will there be public voting and all, for the top two spots?

Yeah that's how it has been all this while and that's how a couple of undeserving singers won the prize because kaLLa Ottu is allowed in the buplic, as in 1 person can vote how much ever times he wants. One guy Anish or someone from Loyola College had his entire college voting several times per person for him and won it ahead of a deserving Ravi. Then we had Sai Charan win over Satyaprakash since buplic preferred him. In addition to the gumbal judging, our buplic isn't any better.