Anything about IR found on the net - Vol 4
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Someone tweeted that the HC judgement says what we've been often talking about (that IR's music carried many listless movies) & I thought people are simply exaggerating and decided to check it.
The link I posted earlier contains a supposedly-web-copy-of-court-judgement.
https://barandbench.com/madras-hc-ilaiyaraja-copyright-dispute/
This page is quite interesting:
We'll have to ask Prabhu Ram sir @dagalti to come to stage
The link I posted earlier contains a supposedly-web-copy-of-court-judgement.
https://barandbench.com/madras-hc-ilaiyaraja-copyright-dispute/
This page is quite interesting:
We'll have to ask Prabhu Ram sir @dagalti to come to stage
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The judge is an Agmark IR fan! Those words "Otherwise eminently forgettable movies are made memorable by the outstanding musical scores they contain"! It is "literally" in black & white, stamped with the State Seal of approval! What more do we need?!
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Raaja fans.. kalainyar tv
Raajavai, isaiyai patri.. purindhu kondu pesum vaarthaigal ellam inimai dhan...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNBrwjgx77E
Raajavai, isaiyai patri.. purindhu kondu pesum vaarthaigal ellam inimai dhan...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNBrwjgx77E
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pudhusu nu nenaikaren. no idea. about IR. inimel dhan muzhudhum parkanam..
parathen.. Ellor interiviewil IR patri .. andha portion.. andha clips...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssYlnwAJ-Rg
parathen.. Ellor interiviewil IR patri .. andha portion.. andha clips...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssYlnwAJ-Rg
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Thanks for the fans' tribute link, Usha ma'm. IR does have an army of fans, who know and feel every inch of his music! That one was just another proof.
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Now, this one down below is an interview with Soundaryan (I distinctly remember his songs: Chinna thangam enthan, Vaa vaa enthan, Kaadhal kaditham, Aathaadi enna and Samba naathu). He drags himself with IR whenever he refers to the past era. He keeps saying "naanga", "enga" etc. Ahem, no comments.
BUT he hits the nail right on the head with respect to IR's "controversies" - Royalty, Copyrights and "Aanmai" - all of which were blown out of proportion and MADE into "controversies" by the arrogant and ignorant people and of course, the negative-news-hungry media.
He says the "youth music icon" Hiphop Tamizha did not get permission before using his song and that he did not get his due royalty from channels when they played his songs. Genuine concern.
Somebody in the comment section has expressed what I wanted to. If he could say he is a genius, and claims for a stake which I'm SURE will be welcomed by the SAME set of people who cried foul at IR even when he sneezed, why shouldn't IR do it?
BUT he hits the nail right on the head with respect to IR's "controversies" - Royalty, Copyrights and "Aanmai" - all of which were blown out of proportion and MADE into "controversies" by the arrogant and ignorant people and of course, the negative-news-hungry media.
He says the "youth music icon" Hiphop Tamizha did not get permission before using his song and that he did not get his due royalty from channels when they played his songs. Genuine concern.
Somebody in the comment section has expressed what I wanted to. If he could say he is a genius, and claims for a stake which I'm SURE will be welcomed by the SAME set of people who cried foul at IR even when he sneezed, why shouldn't IR do it?
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Ilaiyarajavai patri oru rasigar....... azhagaga solli irukar......
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9GhHtUqkE4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9GhHtUqkE4
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tablA Kannaiah passed away :-(
https://twitter.com/ir_bakthan/status/1141218399344717824
https://twitter.com/ir_bakthan/status/1141218399344717824
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Kannaiah played tablA in IR's music for more than 40 years!
https://tamil.filmibeat.com/news/maestro-ilayaraja-pays-tribute-to-his-tabala-player-kannaiya-060249.html
https://tamil.filmibeat.com/news/maestro-ilayaraja-pays-tribute-to-his-tabala-player-kannaiya-060249.html
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That's sad to know. Hope his soul rests in peace.
I remember watching his interview long back on Peppers YouTube channel.
I remember watching his interview long back on Peppers YouTube channel.
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Thanks for the link BC.. indha interview parthu iruken..(Andha ponnum azhagaga interiview seidhu irupar.) Arumaiyana kalainyar.... RIP
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Parthiban is talking openly about the AVM conspiracy during 80's to sideline IR and bring up Chanrabose:
https://tamil.thehindu.com/cinema/tamil-cinema/article28115636.ece
They really tried hard and had limited success with other MDs but none of them lasted long enough to challenge IR.
https://tamil.thehindu.com/cinema/tamil-cinema/article28115636.ece
They really tried hard and had limited success with other MDs but none of them lasted long enough to challenge IR.
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நாடி நரம்பெல்லாம் ராசா குரல் இறங்கி இருக்கிற ஒரு ஆள் என்று தோன்றுகிறது.
(நான் இந்த அளவுக்கெல்லாம் ராசா பாடிய பாட்டுக்கள் குறித்து ஆராய்ந்ததில்லை - மூன்று கிழமைகளாக இது குறித்து எழுதுகிறார் இவர்)!
http://www.dinamalarnellai.com/cinema/news/73288
(நான் இந்த அளவுக்கெல்லாம் ராசா பாடிய பாட்டுக்கள் குறித்து ஆராய்ந்ததில்லை - மூன்று கிழமைகளாக இது குறித்து எழுதுகிறார் இவர்)!
http://www.dinamalarnellai.com/cinema/news/73288
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One line refers to IR in this article:
https://tamil.indianexpress.com/entertainment/vijay-sethupathi-sindhubaadh-anjali-su-arun-kumar/
https://tamil.indianexpress.com/entertainment/vijay-sethupathi-sindhubaadh-anjali-su-arun-kumar/
இளையராஜா தனது சம்பளத்தை விட்டுக் கொடுத்து பல படங்களுக்கு உதவியதைப் போல, அவரது மகனும் செய்திருப்பதை சினிமா வட்டாரத்தினர் பாராட்டி வருகின்றனர்.
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Thank you app_engine for introducing this page to me. Though I have read some articles, didn't know that this man has been writing these from 2015 onwards!app_engine wrote:நாடி நரம்பெல்லாம் ராசா குரல் இறங்கி இருக்கிற ஒரு ஆள் என்று தோன்றுகிறது.
(நான் இந்த அளவுக்கெல்லாம் ராசா பாடிய பாட்டுக்கள் குறித்து ஆராய்ந்ததில்லை - மூன்று கிழமைகளாக இது குறித்து எழுதுகிறார் இவர்)!
http://www.dinamalarnellai.com/cinema/news/73288
Sp much to read!!
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app_engine, Thank you for those Dinamani articles.
IR's music for Documentary "India 24 hours". This is just one of the many in the series. Wish the series was on YouTube. :-(
I'm disgusted and intrigued by how all good things (or news) about IR are either taken down or eclipsed, while the false negative news on him is doing well.
There was a video called "Ilayaraja, the legend" where someone compiled several praises by various personalities in the Indian industry. I'm disheartened to see that it was removed citing "copyrights" violation. And many more of such videos.
IR's music for Documentary "India 24 hours". This is just one of the many in the series. Wish the series was on YouTube. :-(
I'm disgusted and intrigued by how all good things (or news) about IR are either taken down or eclipsed, while the false negative news on him is doing well.
There was a video called "Ilayaraja, the legend" where someone compiled several praises by various personalities in the Indian industry. I'm disheartened to see that it was removed citing "copyrights" violation. And many more of such videos.
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"பணம் போட்ட தயாரிப்பாளருக்குத்தான் எல்லா இசை உரிமையும்"-னு பேசின பெரிய மனுஷங்க எல்லாம் இதைக்கொஞ்சம் படிச்சுருங்க அறிவாளிகளே:
https://tamil.thehindu.com/cinema/tamil-cinema/article28281066.ece
There is a P Vasu interview video embedded in the above link.
DON'T MISS - excellent!
https://tamil.thehindu.com/cinema/tamil-cinema/article28281066.ece
There is a P Vasu interview video embedded in the above link.
DON'T MISS - excellent!
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Another article on panneer pushpangaL:
https://www.kamadenu.in/news/cinema/36445-38-4.html
https://www.kamadenu.in/news/cinema/36445-38-4.html
படத்தின் முதல் பலம். தெளிவான, அழகான கதை. இரண்டாவது பலம்... கதைக்களமான ஊட்டி. மூன்றாவது பலம்...ஊட்டியும் காதலும் கைகோர்த்து நம் கண்ணுக்கும் மனதுக்கும் ஒரு ஜிலீரைக் கொடுத்துக்கொண்டே இருக்கும். எல்லாவற்றையும் விட மிக முக்கியமான பலம்... இளையராஜா. படத்துக்கான பாடல்கள் இன்றைக்கும் ஹிட் லிஸ்ட்டில் இருக்கின்றன. அதைவிட முக்கியமாக, படத்தின் ரீரிக்கார்டிங்கில் புகுந்து விளையாடி ஜாலம் காட்டியிருப்பார் இளையராஜா.
‘கோடை கால காற்றே’ பாடல் நம்மை டிக்கெட் போட்டு ஊட்டிக்கே கூட்டிப் போய்விடும். ‘ஆனந்தராகம் கேட்கும் காலம்’ என்கிற பாடல், காதல் லப்டப்பை, அந்த பட்டாம்பூச்சியின் சிறகடிப்பை நமக்குள்ளும் கடத்தும். பாடலுக்குள் வருகிற வயலின், புதுதினுசு. ’பூந்தளிராட... பொன்மலர் சூட...’ பாடலில் கொண்டாட்ட மனசு, ரயில் தண்டவாளங்களிலும் காடுமேடுகளிலும் சாலைகளிலும் பூந்தோட்டங்களிலும் சுற்றிச் சுழலும் அழகே அழகு. தவிர, இந்தப் படத்தில் உள்ள எல்லாப் பாடல்களிலும் இன்னொரு புதுமையைச் செய்திருப்பார் இளையராஜா. பாடல்களுக்குள்ளே கோரஸ், விசேஷமாக இருக்கும். நம்மையும் நம் மனசையும் கும்மியடிக்கச் செய்யும். கொண்டாட வைக்கும். குஷிப்படுத்தும். ‘பன்னீர் புஷ்பங்கள்’ படத்தின் பாடல்களை இப்போது கேட்டுப் பாருங்கள். அடுத்த வாரம் ரிலீசாகப் போகிற படத்தின் பாடல்களைப் போல் அவ்வளவு ஃப்ரெஷ்ஷாக இருக்கும். முக்கியமாக, அந்தக் கோரஸ் குரல்கள், ஜில்லிடச் செய்யும்.
பாடல்கள் அனைத்தையும் கங்கை அமரன் எழுதியிருப்பார். வழக்கம் போல் இவரின் பல பாடல்கள் மக்களின் மனங்களில் இன்றைக்கும் முணுமுணுக்கப்பட்டு வருவது போல், இந்தப் படத்தின் பாடல்களும் றெக்கைகட்டி சுற்றிக்கொண்டிருக்கின்றன, இன்றைக்கும். ‘அட... இந்தப் பாட்டு கங்கை அமரன் எழுதினதா?’ என்று பாடலைக் கேட்டால், ஆச்சரியப்படுவோம். அதேபோல், ஒளிப்பதிவாளர் எம்.சி.சேகரின் கேமிரா, ஊட்டியின் மொத்த அழகையும் லவட்டிக்கொண்டு வந்திருக்கும். ‘பூந்தளிராட...’ பாடலின் போடு ரயிலை இரண்டு மரங்களுக்கு நடுவிருந்து ஒளிப்பதிவு செய்தது, கவிதை. இப்படி படம் நெடுக, கேமிராவில் ஜாலம் கூட்டி, ஊட்டியை தமிழகம் முழுக்க, உலகம் முழுக்க உலவவிட்டிருப்பார்.
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That P Vasu video by The Hindu is on YT :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BK0g6Gt_vyg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BK0g6Gt_vyg
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For all those who criticize Ilaiyaraaja being greedy, P Vasu's interview should add to dispel that notion where he states that Ilaiyaraaja told him that he was doing the movie free for them. P Vasu states that they insisted that he atleast accept Rs. 15,000 from them - this was at a time when Ilaiyaraaja was generally charging in Lakhs.
Similarly Sangili Murugan in an interview recently stated that Ilaiyaraaja did Sangili Murugan's first 3 movies for free and all of them had songs that were super hits. Similarly Pratap has stated that Ilaiyaraaja did his first movie Aathma for free.
I hope the ignorant people who criticize Ilaiyaraaja are aware of the facts.
Similarly Sangili Murugan in an interview recently stated that Ilaiyaraaja did Sangili Murugan's first 3 movies for free and all of them had songs that were super hits. Similarly Pratap has stated that Ilaiyaraaja did his first movie Aathma for free.
I hope the ignorant people who criticize Ilaiyaraaja are aware of the facts.
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Financial Express article on music rights and royalty - centered around the IR court case:
https://www.financialexpress.com/opinion/ilayaraja-music-and-the-ever-lasting-confusion-over-copyright/1639948/
https://www.financialexpress.com/opinion/ilayaraja-music-and-the-ever-lasting-confusion-over-copyright/1639948/
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Not really about IR but has lot of contextual relevance to iR's viewpoints. This video shows the reason IR hates latest music and his criticism of "computer music". Also the reason we crave for nicely orchestrated music played by actual instrumentalists.
https://youtu.be/AFaRIW-wZlw
https://youtu.be/AFaRIW-wZlw
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app sir, thanks a lot for sharing P.Vasu's interview on Panneer PushpangaL. I came to know some new info from the interview.app_engine wrote:That P Vasu video by The Hindu is on YT :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BK0g6Gt_vyg
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Posting some YT links here, that have portions of interest for IRFs.
This series of videos are history recollection / tributes to many MF personalities etc by Dennis Joseph (director of the movie atharvam that had music by IR ; he also did the script of popular 80's hit movies such as niRakkoottu, shyAma, rAjAvinte mahan, new delhi...)
I plan to do an English translation of the IR-relevant portions someday when I have free time.
For now, just the links
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-33qQWShmgg&t=835s
(Here he talks about choosing IR for adharvam even though they could not imagine affording him)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQ9M1xUleYQ
(Talks about the actual composing day)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKV4Wshz7L0&t=875s
(Talks about BGM session, rare case of preview to IR)
This series of videos are history recollection / tributes to many MF personalities etc by Dennis Joseph (director of the movie atharvam that had music by IR ; he also did the script of popular 80's hit movies such as niRakkoottu, shyAma, rAjAvinte mahan, new delhi...)
I plan to do an English translation of the IR-relevant portions someday when I have free time.
For now, just the links
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-33qQWShmgg&t=835s
(Here he talks about choosing IR for adharvam even though they could not imagine affording him)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQ9M1xUleYQ
(Talks about the actual composing day)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKV4Wshz7L0&t=875s
(Talks about BGM session, rare case of preview to IR)
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Yugabarathi on Na Muthukumar
https://www.nakkheeran.in/special-articles/special-article/yugabharathi-about-namuthukumar
https://www.nakkheeran.in/special-articles/special-article/yugabharathi-about-namuthukumar
இளையராஜாவிடம் முதல் பாடல் எழுதப் போன அனுபவத்தை எனக்குச் சொல்லி, அவரிடம் நான் எப்படி நடந்துகொள்ள வேண்டும் என்பதை அவனே கற்பித்தான். பெரும் இசை ஆளுமையாக இருந்துவரும் இளையராஜா எதை விரும்புவார்? எதை விரும்ப மாட்டார் என அவன் சொல்லிய தன்மையில் கொஞ்சமும் பிசகாத தன்மையோடுதான் இளையராஜா என்னிடம் நடந்துகொண்டார்.
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