Anything about IR found on the net - Vol 2

app_engine wrote:Kushbu ammaNi comedy :
https://twitter.com/khushsundar/status/441822449491906560

Kushbu wrote:
Somebody give me another #Karthik as he was in #AgniNatchathiram...litsening 2 Raja rajadhi rajender raja...nobody can match his exuberance!

TR must be a happy man today

Avanga (Kusboo) thamizh pulavar'ngra pattatha vAngittAnga'nu kELvi pattEn. This should be grounds to revoke that title. YArAvdhu non-thamizhan oru reNdu vArthai thamizh pEsittA pOrume. Thalaikku mElai thooki kOndAda ArambichuduvAngaLE. I still don't know how that "Review Raja" became such a rage among thamizhans 

violin vicky - pon malai pozhudhu.... Really very sweet.. padum portion..... so sweet Kedharam of IR from Vicky....... love a lot.

2.55... to 2.59.. super.. 2 vishayam.. Piano.. romba expert agitar......... IR's Interludes......... rombavae Expert........

We are Gifted......... ( Violin vicky nu per vechindu.. inum Violin ai thodalai. enna karanamo......)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2FQUor1rUg&feature=youtu.be

from Ravi nat. romba periya homework.. indha time..........
Real Treasure.

http://geniusraja.blogspot.in/2014/03/veena-unusual-conversations.html

Chinna kid...... IR's BGM... romba nalla iruku.. expression is tooooooo good.......... (Instruments kathundale... IR's composition gara sandhoshamana kuzhiyil vizhudhae aganam.. vera vazhiyae ilai........)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ju4lhIL-ws8&feature=youtu.be

Khushboo wrote:
Somebody give me another #Karthik as he was in #AgniNatchathiram

LOL. Gautam KArthika vENA try paNNalAmE>

I created a Raja-Tabla playlist on youtube. Mostly from 90s. I wanted this so that when someone said Raja is always tabla based I could point out to this list and ask, "Which one is bad?" and also "What does this lack in way of experimentation and innovation?". When I published this on twitter I was surprised that this was the tweet with most favourites !!! Around 40 people added this list to their favorites. No list of mine earlier had this many favorites.

Shows that these songs are evergreen and has touched many people.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSv5Q60S5dwSB7rG5TQ5UFPqthU-pIUCj

The great violinist V.V.Subramaniam talks about the mridangist Madurai Sreenivasan, who played for Raja regularly. In between he talks about his regard for Raja and how he took one rhythm pattern from Raja (9:26 onwards)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fyfRaApeMw

Raaga_Suresh wrote:I created a Raja-Tabla playlist on youtube. Mostly from 90s. I wanted this so that when someone said Raja is always tabla based I could point out to this list and ask, "Which one is bad?" and also "What does this lack in way of experimentation and innovation?". When I published this on twitter I was surprised that this was the tweet with most favourites !!! Around 40 people added this list to their favorites. No list of mine earlier had this many favorites.

Shows that these songs are evergreen and has touched many people.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSv5Q60S5dwSB7rG5TQ5UFPqthU-pIUCj

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In Olathumbathirunnooyaladum - the actress is in european clothing in the almost 100% WCM second interlude. Just when IR transitions to charanam .. the costume is switched to indian..
No wonder, our man does takes our mallu brothers seriously and does some awesome work.
I'd like to watch that en poove movie some time. I am sure that song was very impactful on the big screen

Raaga_Suresh wrote:The great violinist V.V.Subramaniam talks about the mridangist Madurai Sreenivasan, who played for Raja regularly. In between he talks about his regard for Raja and how he took one rhythm pattern from Raja (9:26 onwards)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fyfRaApeMw

Thanks a lot Suresh ji for sharing. Great tribute by Shri V V Subramaniam. ராஜாதானே! phrase wow! Even in just few notes of rhythm, Madurai T Srinivasan could identify who would have originally conceived it? That's Raja's signature in every note. Can we say the same about originality in any of the music directors today? There is nothing we can identify from the notes that who would have composed it, as nowadays everything is heavily influenced and imitated thus becoming signature-less.

Found another link of Madurai T Srinivasan's compilation of playing mridangam for film songs.

Raaja dhaanE? Raaja dhaanE?  

V_S wrote:Found another link of Madurai T Srinivasan's compilation of playing mridangam for film songs.

Wow.. all my favorite songs. In our enthusiasm for the composer we should not forget the performers,. that too people like Madurai T Srinivasan who come from such a 'music' family. In that interview (I listened partially) he explains he practiced for 6 hrs every day during his gurukula vaasam !!!!! Playing with such control and precision probably requires that much training..
I have a 'superstition' that whenever IR uses a mridhangam in a film song, it will be a popular hit ..

Greatest 25 film composers in cinema history

Some recognition by west...

Ilaiyaraaja is an Indian film composer who works in the Indian film Industry. His body of work has spanned across Tamil, Telugu, Malayalam, Kannada, Hindi and English language films.

Regarded as one of the finest music composers in India, Ilaiyaraaja is also an instrumentalist, conductor, singer, and a songwriter. To date, he has composed over 4500 songs and provided film scores for more than 950 Indian films in various languages, particularly being acclaimed for his background scoring. His songs and background score played a very crucial role in the success of many films.

Point to be noted, your honour, that Oscar Tamizhan is not in the list.  THAT is a surprise. Mancini's exclusion is another big surprise.  IR has even been rated ahead of Hans Zimmer, who, if I am not mistaken, he has praised.  Rating Alan Menken that high, and well above Jerry Goldsmith who scored Omen, is a travesty but still a good list overall.

^Was initially pleasantly surprised too that an international website had IR's name among 25 of the greatest. But as I read on, it dawned. IR's description there is straight out of his wiki page. The author has added nothing original or insightful on Raaja's music like one Finder's Keepers guy did once. Also, why No. 9? What's the basis and why are the other 8 better and the remaining 16 any lesser? While it is nice to see IR getting his name among serious composers of the world, I'm sure you all agree he is an ocean beyond all this and I can't take this study seriously.

Yeah, I think I mentioned that in the comments to the article.  Or maybe in a BR article, don't recall just now.  The descriptions only referred to the films they worked on and not their unique styles.  And as you say no arguments over why one is rated above the others, but then that's tough to do anyway in these lists.  Even Finders Keepers didn't give justifications for all their selections, only said that they reserved the best - IR -for last.  

Nevertheless, all recognition should be welcomed.  Maybe because of that list, some more Americans/Europeans might get curious about his work and that's what we want.  More and more people should be introduced to his work.  Awards don't matter but awareness counts for a lot.  And this website went where our Indian media wouldn't dare to: they actually left out ARR and still included IR in the list.  I don't believe for a minute they would be unaware of ARR if they actually knew about IR.  After all, as Rahmananiacs never fail to remind the world of, ARR is an Oscar winner.   

^ Oh that still happened in the aftermath of this post too Blog la 9th spot'ke indha adhuppE, Oscar, Grammy ellAm vAnginA enna seivAngaLO'ndra level'ukku one Big Lebowski moment for the month of March happened on twitter between the 2 sides

^^^  Yeah, noticed that. Also that North Indian, joined in the pwnage.    I hope the comments don't get hijacked by yet another online war.  


Another thing. It is not an apple to apple comparison because the work of composers like John Williams or Morricone is defined primarily by their background score.  As good as IR's background score is - and in some films it surpasses the songs - the songs are undoubtedly a very big part of what defines his work.  If you have to make an 'international comparison', you have to compare him both with the Morricones and the Williams-es on the hand and the Beatles and the Stevies.

In fairness to ARR, he did deserve to be there if Menken did.  I'd like to be shown to have been too critical of him, but I really did not like his work in the 90s Disney films and if that's the sole reason to put him so high up in the list, that sucks.  What about George Bruns then?  Jungle Book score is not better than Lion King, seriously?

Such material cannot be taken seriously. Even C-Net, when it does a monitor comparison will publish its testing logic and how it rated one monitor to be better than the other!

I have heard both Moricone as well as Williams. Rating Moricone as a film composer better than Williams is unacceptable to me. Goldsmith being low in the pecking order is equally unacceptable. The writer, if you notice, also mentions that Randy Newman cannot be really called a composer. It seems it's Okay to list his cousin! It also makes a comment that Williams is perhaps the most legendary film music composer ever.

I am not buying this because it mentions Raja's name. I think it is written by the cousin of the Time reporter who coined the phrase 'Mozart of Madras'  

The reason I posted this link is because I was simply surprised. The site does not seem to be that much visited by Indians / run by expats and such.

(Unlike the BBC voting of rAkkammA kaiyaththattu, which was practically mostly the work of worldwide Thamizh people, especially those expats from Srilanka in EU).

How come they even knew the existence of IR / picked on him leaving out the many bollywood fellows who are much better known abroad is my surprise.

May be they know ARR (because of Oscar) and that way got introduced to IR and consider him superior...otherwise, there's no Indian connection to that site or no Hollywood connection to IR....

மதுரையில், ஏப்ரல் 5–ந்தேதி இளையராஜா, ரசிகர் மன்றம் தொடங்குகிறார்

இதில், ஒரு கோடி பேருக்கு மேல் உறுப்பினராக சேர உள்ளனர்.

சுத்தமா வேண்டாத வேலை!

எப்படியும் ரொம்ப நாளைக்கு ஓடாது என்பதால் கவலைப்பட வேண்டிய அவசியமில்லை

My hunch is these people heard of Ilayaraja from that Film score magazine article (can't locate it now) which reviewed a few of his scores (Paa, Cheeni kum, Naan kadavul etc) and also NBW,HTNI. I doubt if he the author has heard anything beyond a couple of these scores (not songs), unlike Morricone or JW, whose practically ever work he must have heard. So while it is a surprise that IR's name is included, placing him at No.9 is arbitrary and is no cause for celebration - at least for me - as I don't care much whether people in the west get drawn to his music or not, so I'm kind of indifferent. I am more interested in his work being transmitted to future generations of South Indians. North Indians have been tone deaf since at least the days of Anu Malik, so that's another lost cause there.

I prefer Morricone to JW. My bias, thanks to Once upon a time in America (best Hollywood score ever IMNSHO) and Good bad and the ugly (most stylish Hollywood score ever, IMNSHO). I have never liked any JW score as much as any of these 2.

There is not a Beatles song I know that can match the arrangements, orchestral brilliance, melodic complexity or rhythmic variations of any IR song in a hypothetical "Top 50 western IR" list. I will refrain from making such a sweeping statement about Stevie Wonder because I haven't heard enough of his music. So I would consider a similar list rating Beatles no.1 and IR no.9 a bigger travesty. Needless to say, strictly my subjective opinion, welcome to disagree. OTOH, if one chooses to disregard the order of ranking and is simply happy for the potential awareness created by such a list that is fine, but like I said, I am slightly indifferent, maybe even skeptical of western recognition of anything these days...

Drunkenmunk wrote:Blog la 9th spot'ke indha adhuppE, Oscar, Grammy ellAm vAnginA enna seivAngaLO'ndra level'ukku one Big Lebowski moment for the month of March happened on twitter between the 2 sides

But I agree with that!! Look at all the IRtards that have jumped into the comments section. We must accept it. Our side has just as many loosu, juvenile insecure fanboys as the other camp who would jump for joy and run riot if a cute blond chick left a comment on youtube saying IR was as good as Madonna or Michael Jackson.

http://www.thehindu.com/features/friday-review/music/over-10-mn-people-to-join-ilayaraajas-fan-club/article5799767.ece?homepage=true

I don't understand the need for an official fan club, don't understand the purpose behind it and don't how to feel about this. . Hoping it doesn't turn into some mockery like Ajith or Vijay rasigar mandrams that dot practically every locality in Chennai. Would be a disgrace. Also hoping it doesn't get hijacked by clueless fanatics.

fring151,

Look at "The Hindu" paper:

உலகளவில் பிரசித்திப் பெற்ற சினிமா இணையத்தளமான 'டேஸ்ட் ஆஃப் சினிமா' என்ற இணையதளம் உலகின் தலைச்சிறந்த 25 இசையமைப்பாளர்கள் பட்டியலை வெளியிட்டுள்ளது.

இப்பட்டியலில் இந்தியாவில் இருந்து இளையராஜாவின் பெயர் மட்டுமே இடம்பெற்றுள்ளது. 25 பேர்களில் இளையராஜா 9வது இடத்தினை பிடித்திருக்கிறார்.

இதில் இத்தாலியன் கம்போஸர் மொர்ரிகோன் முதல் இடத்தையும், ஆஸ்திரேலியாவில் பிறந்த அமெரிக்க இசையமைப்பாளர் மேக்ஸ் ஸ்டைனர் 2-வது இடத்தையும், அமெரிக்க கம்போஸர் ஜான் வில்லியம்ஸ் 3-வது இடத்தையும் பிடித்துள்ளனர்.

தமிழ், தெலுங்கு, மலையாளம், கன்னடம், ஹிந்தி, ஆங்கில மொழிகளில் 4500-க்கும் மேற்பட்ட பாடல்கள் கொடுத்து, 950-க்கும் மேற்பட்ட படங்களில் இசைப்பணியாற்றியுள்ள இசைஞானி இளையராஜா இந்தப் பட்டியலில் 9-வது இடத்தைப் பிடித்துள்ளார்.

சிறந்த இசைக்கோர்ப்பு, இன்ஸ்ட்ருமென்டலிஸ்ட், இசை ஒருங்கிணைப்பு, பாடகர், பாடல் ஆசிரியர் ஆகிய பிரிவில் இளையராஜா சிறப்பான பணியை வழங்கியிருப்பதாக ‘டேஸ்ட் ஆஃப் சினிமா’ இணைய தளம் பாராட்டியுள்ளது.