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Post  fring151 Sat Jun 07, 2014 8:07 am

Wiki wrote:As the film's music has Indian as well as Western sensibilities, Rahman wanted to strike a balance between the two.

Pandering to lowest common denominator of both east and west nu Rahmaane sollirukkAr pArum. Global integration yo!

Haven't heard any track except the one DM shared here earlier. Would like to maintain status quo.

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Post  fring151 Fri Jun 27, 2014 6:07 am

Thanks to DM, for this link

https://twitter.com/SudhirSrinath/status/482022875902119936

I have traversed the length and breadth of the internet and I say with some certainty that neither a discerning appreciation of Rehman, nor a nuanced criticism of Raja nor an evolved sense of humour can a maniac ever be accused of.

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Post  app_engine Fri Jun 27, 2014 5:36 pm

fring151 wrote:https://twitter.com/SudhirSrinath/status/482022875902119936

Joe sir is on my FB for a couple of years now. Occasionally I get to see some vomitting by this guy (as well as the hub admin guy) by way of "comments" on Joe's posts.

On each of such occasions, I'm reminded of two things:

a) One of distaste - "இந்த மாதிரி மனுஷங்களோடயா வருஷக்கணக்கா ஒரு ஃபாரத்துல இருந்தேன்?" Embarassed

b) One of gratitude : I should be thankful for whatever happened that brought me to senses and drove me out of there Smile
(Otherwise I would have been in dialog at hub with such people even now)

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Post  mayilSK Thu Jul 10, 2014 6:29 am

Just to record before I(and others) forget - I don't think we'd ever forget this though. இருந்தாலும் போட்டுவைக்கிறேன். Smile

Every single tweet following this is imbaartant. https://twitter.com/JVazhkudai/status/486876895691034624
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Post  Wizzy Thu Jul 10, 2014 9:42 am

lol @ headmaniac basing his entire tale on Suresh Kisna's word..SK the same guy who in a Vijay tv buildup show before
Canada concert plainly refused to acknowledge that 'Valiyosai' was part of NBW.. director'a erukumbothay nelamai epadi na  Smile 
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Post  fring151 Fri Jul 11, 2014 5:46 am

Documenting this for posterity so no maniac will dare appropriate credit for PM theme music again:

The said maniac's lying about not being aware of ARR's interview where he explicitly states that he was only an operator and programmed the music and did NOT compose it was also exposed.

http://www.pvv.ntnu.no/~kailasan/interviews/perfection%20is%20his%20key%20to%20success.htm

Above is the 1997 interview which he has seen in 2009 and already acknowledged as you will see if you read through the archives here:
https://www.mail-archive.com/arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com/msg64713.html

And last month when tekvijay produces the same interview as proof against his now viral claim that ARR composed PM theme, he reacts thus:
https://twitter.com/tekvijay/status/481764130177568768

feigning ignorance of that interview and casually accusing IR fans of vidhandaavadham

And here is the full twitter saga that unfolded the last couple of days:
https://twitter.com/boredsword/status/486920696526671872

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Post  plum Fri Jul 11, 2014 7:08 am

Wiz - the shameful disgraceful attitude of Raghu fans has to be seen to be believed. Even I didn't expect that they can plunge such low depths. Every time you think they have hit rock bottom they plunge even further down

https://twitter.com/balapperiyava/status/487272025518395392
https://twitter.com/nom_d_plum/status/487266597883490304
https://twitter.com/nom_d_plum/status/487250952139718656
https://twitter.com/maya_twit/status/481755530373783553
https://twitter.com/D0525A/status/481752218283302912
https://t.co/rWP0i7eUvX
https://t.co/rWP0i7eUvX

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Post  plum Fri Jul 11, 2014 7:35 am

@dtwdy unearthed this Kamini Mathai book with several propaganda gems:

https://twitter.com/dtwdy/status/487289556920578049

This book apparently has gems like:
"There really isn't much first-hand information though, because getting to meet and then making Rahman speak really isn't easy. So the effort in collating all this content from older articles and interviews, speaking to those who've worked with him, and his other acquaintances, is commendable. However, I also felt that quotes from everyone who's had something interesting to say - fact or fiction, observation or perception - had been extrapolated and exploited. The way Ilaiyaraja has been portrayed, I wonder if the first half of this book couldn't have been titled "The Boy Who Composed". Ilaiyaraja is depicted almost as the Voldemort-like tyrant who never allowed any musicians, singers or technicians to express themselves. At more than a couple of places, the book even talks of how the industry was hoping for someone to "overthrow" Ilaiyaraja. Also, director Kathir should seriously be considering suing, SPB comes across as a bitter old-timer, and the Tamil film industry has wrongly been shown as having been overshadowed by A.R.Rahman."


http://t.co/GU34671pol 

"Dileep had a different style-he would add western bass to Indian raagas, uneheard of until then" -Kamini Mathai's book quoting an associate"



A nd it turns out this book was blessed and came with inputs from Rahman
https://twitter.com/SudhishKamath/status/2293102041


So Rahman using allakkais to spread rumours and lies, and acting like humble fellow in direct interviews. What more is needed to unmask this man?

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Post  Usha Fri Jul 11, 2014 8:36 am

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So Rahman using allakkais to spread rumours and lies, and acting like humble fellow in direct interviews. What more is needed to unmask this man?[/quote]

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IR ai patri.. IR fans and Mathavanga solradha kaetutu..... indha ARR.. adhai.. Than dhan first seiyadhaga. or seiya povadhaga solrar.

Ipadi sollalam..Unmaiyana HumbleMan aga irundhal... indha ARR..  Naan mudhal mudhalaga idhai seigiren.......... endru.......

anal ..
apadi solvadhu ilai... India vilyae.. naan idhai mudhal mudhalaga seigiren.... enna oru Thimir..

Ulagathil .. endru sonnal...  Ulagathuku theiryum.. ARR in poi. adhanal dhan adhai solvadhu ilai..

India.. or IR... ellam yemandhavanga...... yematharar....

Poii udai oruvan sol vanmaiyinal.. Mei polumae Mei polumae..

kadavulin paarvaiyil...   Thappu seiybavanukum.... Poi solbavanukum... niraiya chance tharuvar.......... yen endral...

avanudaiya poiyum.. thappum.. adhigam agi.. avanai azhikum.... adharkaga than...........

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Post  app_engine Fri Jul 11, 2014 6:20 pm

Nerd's contribution to the discussion

The above talks about who REALLY steals credit from others Wink

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Post  app_engine Thu Jul 17, 2014 7:18 pm

VB pulmabal on his movie with ARR

The movie is not even released yet - but director has already started lamenting about pozhappu Laughing

This is noteworthy :

வசந்தபாலன் wrote:
ஆடியோ பிசினஸ் இல்லை.

So, the latest person who makes a movie with ARR music is openly admitting that his MD's name does not sell Wink

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Post  Drunkenmunk Thu Jul 17, 2014 8:33 pm

app_engine wrote: VB pulmabal on his movie with ARR

The movie is not even released yet - but director has already started lamenting about pozhappu Laughing

This is noteworthy :

வசந்தபாலன் wrote:
ஆடியோ பிசினஸ் இல்லை.

So, the latest person who makes a movie with ARR music is openly admitting that his MD's name does not sell Wink

It is possible to argue he is making a generalized case for the cinema industry today no (and it's possible to argue ARR is anyway a brand and they amp his albums on iTunes and say they still sell)? Devil's advocate which a maniac will rise if he were here Wink
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Post  app_engine Thu Jul 17, 2014 9:12 pm

He is talking about industry in general only Smile

namma twisttu with the Wink ellAm veLattukkungOv Smile

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Post  Wizzy Fri Jul 18, 2014 7:28 am

app_engine wrote: VB pulmabal on his movie with ARR

The movie is not even released yet - but director has already started lamenting about pozhappu Laughing

This is noteworthy :

வசந்தபாலன் wrote:
ஆடியோ பிசினஸ் இல்லை.

So, the latest person who makes a movie with ARR music is openly admitting that his MD's name does not sell Wink

must have heard the final mix  laugh ..with AR in peter mode this could end in tears for Vasantabalan.
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Post  app_engine Fri Jul 18, 2014 10:57 pm

Some twitter amusement for the day :
https://twitter.com/Raaga_Suresh/status/490180986630438913

P_R wrote:
உங்க மண்டபத்துல யாரோ எழுதிக் கொடுத்த மாதிரி இருக்கே..

Laughing

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Post  fring151 Sat Jul 26, 2014 10:37 pm

Compilation of #maniacslolchronicles - ongoing twitter series of Plum. varalArrukku mukhyam. Note these are the same #maniacs who complain about IR fans' narrow-mindedness. Also note how many retweets, favourites these tweets get. Very revealing.

https://twitter.com/thoatta/status/491978061928075264
https://twitter.com/sindhutalks/status/491978722149269504

And Plum's take on the matter -
https://twitter.com/nom_d_plum/status/492157688579518465

#Maniacswit
https://twitter.com/sindhutalks/status/491979884894240770
https://twitter.com/kannan0420/status/491980266236178433
https://twitter.com/sindhutalks/status/491980961324601346

#Maniacsappreciation
https://twitter.com/RaKaMaLi/status/492336809506906112

And as usual Plum's pithy take -
https://twitter.com/nom_d_plum/status/492353153258385408

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Post  Usha Mon Aug 11, 2014 4:00 pm

http://arrcopycat.blogspot.in/2009/02/arrahmans-plugarisms.html

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Post  fring151 Tue Aug 12, 2014 1:28 am

That's a ridiculous blog to say the least. Reads like something that an IR fanatic with a vengeance would come up with.

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Post  Wizzy Mon Sep 15, 2014 8:50 pm

laugh seruppadi to those wanted AR to score for more Tamil philms.. Sangar and his assist.  VasanthaB  ended with lemons..Ar should limit himself to Hollywood and other planets.
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Post  sagi Mon Sep 15, 2014 9:02 pm

Haven't listened to #i in no mood either but had to endure Kaaviyathalaivan on a recent road trip. What a bummer. Offensively bad. Generic sounds being passed off as ludes and the less said about the boring, meandering melodies the better. Not even a single redeeming thing about the entire album. Even the Santhoshs and the Immans could have done 10x better than this excuse of an album. And maniacs lapping it up, I don't have anything to say really. Only thing worse than maniacs celebrating KT is to see their effusive praises on Kochadaiiyaan. Another hopeless album. That's two in a row.

RIP TFM. (Hat-tip Subhasree Thanikachalam)

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Post  jaiganesh Mon Sep 15, 2014 9:16 pm

Nerd wrote:Haven't listened to #i in no mood either but had to endure Kaaviyathalaivan on a recent road trip. What a bummer. Offensively bad. Generic sounds being passed off as ludes and the less said about the boring, meandering melodies the better. Not even a single redeeming thing about the entire album. Even the Santhoshs and the Immans could have done 10x better than this excuse of an album. And maniacs lapping it up, I don't have anything to say really. Only thing worse than maniacs celebrating KT is to see their effusive praises on Kochadaiiyaan. Another hopeless album. That's two in a row.

RIP TFM. (Hat-tip Subhasree Thanikachalam)
Thats why I am saying.. We dont deserve an IR album - big banner, little banner or no banner. I am trying to actively forget Raaja these days. Because it is an intolerable
cruelty for me to hear anything else these days. sense of nausea throughout when i try to mingle in and having to stand through Royapuram petteru and kaaviya thalaivans and see
people swooning over. To top it all - heard yuvan's sufi song in anjaan. puked instantly. indha karmathukku dhaan nee madham maarinaayaa u1?

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Post  Drunkenmunk Tue Sep 16, 2014 7:12 am

Except the Shreya-Haricharan duet, the remaining songs in I are offensively bad. Worth a listen to just see how horrendous they are and spit at them Razz
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Post  rajkumarc Tue Sep 16, 2014 8:28 am

Haven't listened to "I" yet but Kaaviya Thalaivan was way too underwhelming, no song stood out for me. 

Alli Arjuna was just wandering aimlessly and I couldn't help but compare that song to Annanmaar Kathai from Ponnar Shankar which was set to portray a similar story telling. Just the variations in the song and the way it keeps the listener captivated all the way, you don't need any other proof to know who can masterfully tell a story with music.

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Post  fring151 Tue Sep 16, 2014 9:52 am

Sampled all songs (below). Maniacs reacting like this is the greatest musical innovation since Bach invented fugue. A bit too effusive, that, for my taste.



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Post  plum Tue Sep 16, 2014 6:46 pm

adhellAm irukkattum. amsamA #Aai nu pEru vecha albuthula nEkku thodhA(indha forumersku theriyAdhadhilla, constipation probleu) pudhiya nenjE ezhu, endhirA edhAchum irukkA?

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