Discussions on ARR

Really?  I have personally felt that on very few occasions mainly because that kind of symmetrical approach to melody is very rarely used by A R Rahman.  It would be just 'film music' if he did.    Kehna Hi Kya, Tu Hi Re and Chupke Se are three of his Hindi songs that, melody wise, fit into the old Hindi music canon for me.  I would disagree with you and readily add Kismat Se to that category.  Sahana Saaral is so over complicated it makes my head spin and I can barely make it to the end of the charanam.  The moment ARR does something with some (Indian) classical influence, he seems to feel obliged to make it terribly complicated and yet the few times he has eschewed that temptation, he has done well.  Kismat Se may be standard if you want to compare it a genius tunesmith like Madan Mohan but even that kind of song is so rare in Bollywood now.  And ARR deserves no part of the blame for that; standards had pretty much crashlanded years back there.

CR,

This song the pallavi is almost like a standard old Hindi melody : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvVR94cklfA

Tu Fiza Hai is Anu Malik.  Only one song on Fiza is composed by ARR, Piya Haji Ali, which is one of his typical Sufi style numbers.

crimson king wrote:Tu Fiza Hai is Anu Malik.  Only one song on Fiza is composed by ARR, Piya Haji Ali, which is one of his typical Sufi style numbers.

Aah. Then I am mistaken. Somehow I thought the album was by Rahman.

All Kochadaiiyaan songs available for listening here: https://www.youtube.com/user/sonymusicindiaVEVO/videos Not very impressed. A couple of songs sound good. But full'ukku thAngAdhu for me. The jizzing this has generated among the maniacs on twitter. Ohmykadavule! iTunes India la No. 1 (is that a marker of quality?), Manappennin Sathiyam is the badhiladi to Sundari Kannaal Oru Sedhi (  Palanichamy, nee yEn ippidi ellAm pEsi pazhagura?!), BGM'kaagavE padatha pAppEn from trailer (nenja thottu sollu man, IR nu oruthan illainA BGM'naa kilo enna velai nu dhAnE namma EllArum kEppOm?), ARR-Rajni's best album till date (No. Muthu was better. Heck, Baba was also better).

btw, trailer:


very very sumAr.

Now that the full album is out, it still sounds like an incoherent symphonic mess just like the teaser.  The only song I could bear to listen to was the Chinmay-Srinivas duet.  Even in that song he began to come up with endless variations in the tune until I finally gave up. So, back to normal service after the Raunaq high.

drunkenmunk wrote:Manappennin Sathiyam is the badhiladi to Sundari Kannaal Oru Sedhi (  Palanichamy, nee yEn ippidi ellAm pEsi pazhagura?!)

SuthamA purilayE. Endha angle la solrAnga?  Or is that too nuanced a question to put to the maniacs?

drunkenmunk wrote:BGM'kaagavE padatha pAppEn from trailer (nenja thottu sollu man, IR nu oruthan illainA BGM'naa kilo enna velai nu dhAnE namma EllArum kEppOm?)

That's a good point. Pre-IR, did anyone in IFM, let alone TFM give that much importance to BGM? how many standalone BGM pieces of previous IFM composers are famous? This whole talk of BGM as an equally serious area of film music scoring in the Indian context began only after IR's arrival, if I am not mistaken.

drunkenmunk wrote:ARR-Rajni's best album till date (No. Muthu was better. Heck, Baba was also better).

Muthu is ARR-Rajni combo's best album, which is actually, not saying much.

Net-net, definitely ARR's best album since Highway. Hands down. 

"Medhuvaagathan" starts with a virtually identical (not same) chord pattern as "Maahi ve", but is an otherwise enjoyable melody. If I were a maniac I would wait for the other songs to grow on me, but I will probably deny them that chance

Medhuvaagathaan yes, almost same pattern as Mahi Ve. Regarding the jizzing, desperation as I see it. adhu mattum illAma, ARR vandhu IR'kum oru padi mEla, ARR proves he is one of the greatest orchestrators in the world again (again, IR nu orthar illaina orchestration kilo enna vela dhaan) nu meeNdum meeNdum AramikkarAnga online. ENdA edhukkeduthAlum IR oda comparison nadakkudhE, ungAL Oscar, Grammy nu dhAn jeichuttArE. Why now comparison again with us?

That aside, decent album this. No way near even ARR-Rajni's best. Muthu was it. Regarding best album since Highway,   ARR has become a brand and regardless of the quality, this over-the-top going gaga will happen for every album.

drunkenmunk wrote:adhu mattum illAma, ARR vandhu IR'kum oru padi mEla, ARR proves he is one of the greatest orchestrators in the world again (again, IR nu orthar illaina orchestration kilo enna vela dhaan) nu meeNdum meeNdum AramikkarAnga online.

Lol. Please share links to these tantrums if possible.

fring151 wrote:That's a good point. Pre-IR, did anyone in IFM, let alone TFM give that much importance to BGM? how many standalone BGM pieces of previous IFM composers are famous? This whole talk of BGM as an equally serious area of film music scoring in the Indian context began only after IR's arrival, if I am not mistaken.

Edit: Should read "begins and ends with IR".

Welcome back KV

Steeni Dan in Abdur Hameed's Innisai Mazhai nigazhchi in Kalaignar TV. Mafia miss pannapdaadhu.

Koach-fangal Shaku bai has managed to get the worst of AR, edhuva eppadina imagine the plight
of Vasanthabalan's KV with Kittappa milieu idea rotated by youtube/google   Sangar cement's Aai remains his only shot at redemption.

http://filmschoolrejects.com/features/the-15-most-anticipated-movie-soundtracks-and-scores-of-2014.php?all=1

coincidence? - ARR's name shows up in a werld movie 'composers'/soundtracks list, a few weeks after IR was featured in that tasteofcinema list (nammalo IRo antha dubukku list ah perusa mathikelanaalum other camp ah uruthirukku nu I feel    )

ARR did mostly indhi in Malaysia it seems, to a 95% Thamizh audience

I read somewhere a person calling ARR as "international Hindi musician"

ARR wrote:
My shows will never be possible without the tolerance and support of all my fans

tolerance

app_engine wrote: ARR did mostly indhi in Malaysia it seems, to a 95% Thamizh audience

I read somewhere a person calling ARR as "international Hindi musician"

ARR wrote:
My shows will never be possible without the tolerance and support of all my fans

tolerance

this is par for the course for a AR concert..given this backlash now watch him throw biscuits @ tamizh fans by including
a tam song in his next phoren philm end credits or conjure up a love-all tam single for Ukraine crisis/world peace/humanity/ozone layer
with Blaaze rapping in Afrikaans.

Wizzy wrote:

app_engine wrote: ARR did mostly indhi in Malaysia it seems, to a 95% Thamizh audience

I read somewhere a person calling ARR as "international Hindi musician"

ARR wrote:
My shows will never be possible without the tolerance and support of all my fans

tolerance

this is par for the course for a AR concert..given this backlash now watch him throw biscuits @ tamizh fans by including
a tam song in his next phoren philm end credits or conjure up a love-all tam single for Ukraine crisis/world peace/humanity/ozone layer
with Blaaze rapping in Afrikaans.

Lol! was waiting for your post on this

Btw, adivarudigaL response on expected tracks: https://plus.google.com/u/0/+JMarianoAntoBrunoMascarenhas/posts/dPcXAnUoD1B idha rasiganoda soodu soraNayA kanvart senju, adhaiyE ARR'oda balam'nu solli, appidiye mafia/IR name seyyAma cheap digs vEra.

idhula note seyya vENdiya vishayam siladhu irukku. Aside from mostly indhi saangs, ARR has also addressed audiences in indhi it seems. Malaysia is a polarized place as far as indhi-Tamil goes. Naarth Indies there are fewer in number and better off as docs and businessmen. Tamils are chettimArs and laborers from Madurai. Naarth Indies (not all but the elite, some 10% of their own) totally hate Tamils and look down on the laborer Tamils and in generally on Tamils because we are darker. So class and racial intolerance is a factor among Indians in Malay. idha oru friend recent'aa solli dhAn enakku theriyin (a regular to Malay he is). Naturally Tamils reciprocate this hatred on the Naarth Indies. indha oru soozhal'la dhAn aNNAtha indhi'la pEsi indhi pAttu pAdirukApla. Naturally esspected backlash from Tamils in Malaysia who paid through their noses for this concert. There seems to be no effort to recognize this sensitive underbelly to the gaffe (unintentional of course from ARR and team. This was more of a miscalculation and absolute lack of connect with ground reality in Malaysia considering 95% audience were Tamils) or apologize. Basically what we see on ARR's social pages are poosi muzhugina statements and adivarudis spewing venom on Tamils (one Marathi bloke on the fan page in fb) and mafia. cheinga da, cheinga.

Drunkenmunk wrote:Btw, adivarudigaL response on expected tracks: https://plus.google.com/u/0/+JMarianoAntoBrunoMascarenhas/posts/dPcXAnUoD1B

Ivan thaan yaa unmayaana balanced, reasonable, sensible, neutral Raghu fan. Evlo naala internet la thedikittirukken theriyumaa? Ennoda nedunaal thedal ini mudivadaindhadhu. Thanks Munk   .

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காரணம்

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So what are maniacs saying about Million dollar arm? Greatest BGM ever? Or is that label still reserved for Thruda thiruda? Any clips available?

fring151 wrote:So what are maniacs saying about Million dollar arm? Greatest BGM ever? Or is that label still reserved for Thruda thiruda? Any clips available?

A few reviews saying ARR's brilliant score has enhanced MDA and maniacs are peddling it online. One sample song was released. Maniacs are reacting as if it's dope. Personally I wasn't impressed. Guess will wait for full soundtrack.

PS: Guess Thirakkaadha KaattukuLLE is part of the soundtrack and comes when kids play in a scene. ARR gave an interview (unable to find link) that he was pleasantly surprised since the song has the line "viLayAdum piLLaigaL pOlEyA" and these are Americans who got the song while researching his Tamil works

Song I was talking of: http://t.co/JuJAuPRhAP

PPS: https://twitter.com/atlasdanced/status/464667287614541824  

Drunkenmunk wrote:Song I was talking of: http://t.co/JuJAuPRhAP

Fuck, this is horrendous. It's almost worse than anything in contemporary American pop, even if that's possible.

Full soundtrack:

http://www.mixrad.io/in/en/products/a-r-rahman/million-dollar-arm-original-motion-picture-soundtrack/67866320/

Yet to hear myself. kEttuttu sollunga

Judging by the samples, this is as generic a BGM soundtrack as any I have heard.