Anything about IR found on the net - Vol 2

Usha wrote:from 8.43 ... Raja sir patri solrar.......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BP4fOJip05Y

A spirited guy .. explains how IR has contributed to the growth of the tamil film industry by working for new comers as well. Thanks for the link.

kiru wrote:

Drunkenmunk wrote:

vaticanscientist wrote:

app_engine wrote:

My father was the last one I told in my house to. I told him, 'I have started reading the Quran and it gives me a lot of peace.' He said to me, 'Yuvan, I am not comfortable with you becoming Islamic.'

Wow! I think that last stuff may have been made up by TOI. I remember Rajkiran telling in an Interview (Suriya Vanakkam) how Illayaraja was his spiritual advisor and they used to go to Bangalore Dargah together.

Hindu has also reproduced the same interview in Tamil. So it is safe to assume Yuvan said what he said. Frankly, I don't grudge Raaja here. Raaja advising Rajkiran was different. Rajkiran is Muslim by birth and IR advising him spiritually shows his secular mindset. Yuvan is his son. It would be wrong and illiberal on you or me to pass a judgement on his conversion. But IR is entitled to, as a father. And him not being comfortable did not make him stop Yuvan from converting or Yuvan himself from converting. It again underlines his secular credentials. He is simply not comfortable. And as a dad, he has the right to express that when his son tells him the decision. That will not make him any less secular IMO

Well said, DM.

Thanks kiru. I see a number of questions/opinions online. Let this be one more
1. "Raaja's temper" World renowned. No human is perfect.
2. "He questioned Yuvan on singing for ARR" He asked him "what made you sing?" and not "Why the hell did you sing?" as a legendary composer, he is again entitled to ask his son, also a composer, what made him sing for another composer. If Yuvan were an upcoming, budding singer, the question would be silly. But not to a son/composer.
3. Raaja's ritualism. This is the only place where IMO Yuvan hasn't understood his dad fully. Well who am I to say this? Frankly a nobody and Yuvan is a dear son. So, பிழை இருப்பின் மன்னிக்க. But Raaja is not just about ritualism. There is a spiritual side to him (Ramana Maharishi is the anti-thesis of ritualism and Raaja, a staunch devotee, realizes this obviously). Any person who writes a song like Bikshai Paathiram Endhi Vandhen cannot be anything but spiritually realized. Yuvan stops with ritualism giving reader the impression IR is only about rituals and superstitions. idhula enakku konjam varuththam dhaan Yuvan mEla.
4. Raaja's secularism. I've mentioned that above and frankly, can't able to understand calling a father who has an opinion on his son's religious inclination unsecular. It's an opinion a father is perfectly entitled to have ffs! Flabbergasted people even discuss this (twitter, FB, etc.)
5. All this wouldn't matter if I were only a fan of his music and not him. Blessed are those who fall in such a category. But I happen to admire the man too. So I had to get this out for my inner peace

So except for that one point on ritualism, I find both Yuvan and Raaja very consistent and it was a very frank interview and in fact, Yuvan speaking his mind on being the underdog, etc. was spunky and can't help but wonder pulikki porandhadhu poonai AgAdhu (though I am not a fan of Yuvan's music). In places, his respect for his father bothered on reverence and it was nice to see him bring his father's "dhArALa manasu" out openly and no small credit to his mother there. His reason for conversion was convincing and deep and his personal loss and relationship status seemed a genuine voice from a broken man. Felt sorry for him there. So I guess he needs the peace of mind and if he finds it in Islam, may Allah be with him and guide him to find his peace

Drunkenmunk wrote:
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3. Raaja's ritualism. This is the only place where IMO Yuvan hasn't understood his dad fully. Well who am I to say this? Frankly a nobody and Yuvan is a dear son. So, பிழை இருப்பின் மன்னிக்க. But Raaja is not just about ritualism. There is a spiritual side to him (Ramana Maharishi is the anti-thesis of ritualism and Raaja, a staunch devotee, realizes this obviously). Any person who writes a song like Bikshai Paathiram Endhi Vandhen cannot be anything but spiritually realized. Yuvan stops with ritualism giving reader the impression IR is only about rituals and superstitions. idhula enakku konjam varuththam dhaan Yuvan mEla.
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DM, again I concur with you. I still think Yuvan has its strength .. He has the will power and gumption of his dad for sure, may be a little less of the diligence.
Yuvan decided to follow a format of music which is much easier than that of his dad's. Karthik tries to follow his dad and since it is a difficult path, he has not had that much commerical success.
Dad's way requires a strong melody, as it is sometimes very minimalistic in orchestration. The other approach requires lots of bells/whistles to make it look 'more serious'.

kiru wrote:The other approach requires lots of bells/whistles to make it look 'more serious'.

Like this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfDaEIQOLUE #whyRajawhy. Time to go into temporary hiding.

fring151 wrote:

kiru wrote:The other approach requires lots of bells/whistles to make it look 'more serious'.

Like this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfDaEIQOLUE #whyRajawhy. Time to go into temporary hiding.

This is "raaja heavily processed". gosh!

Drunkenmunk wrote:

 "He questioned Yuvan on singing for ARR" He asked him "what made you sing?" and not "Why the hell did you sing?" as a legendary composer, he is again entitled to ask his son, also a composer, what made him sing for another composer. 

I do not see much of a difference in the question when it is paraphrased or told in 2nd person. we never know what was the literal tone and exact words used. But it does give us a drift of discomfort (seems so, i could be wrong too). 

 Also, is it "what made you sing for another composer" that is a problem? or "what made you sing for arr?". Given the context that Yuvan backs up with "when i sang for arr, it became a big deal", do we guess that it is the latter.

http://www.indiaglitz.com/i-didnt-like-mudhal-mariyadhai-ilayaraja-tamil-news-111956

"When, Bharathiraja saw the movie after my work, he questioned how am I able to deliver such a wonderful music, even for a film which I did not like, well, all I have to say is; I can't be unfaithful to music."


One of the best quotes by Raaja, IMO.

kamalaakarsh wrote:

Drunkenmunk wrote:

 "He questioned Yuvan on singing for ARR" He asked him "what made you sing?" and not "Why the hell did you sing?" as a legendary composer, he is again entitled to ask his son, also a composer, what made him sing for another composer. 

I do not see much of a difference in the question when it is paraphrased or told in 2nd person. we never know what was the literal tone and exact words used. But it does give us a drift of discomfort (seems so, i could be wrong too). 

 Also, is it "what made you sing for another composer" that is a problem? or "what made you sing for arr?". Given the context that Yuvan backs up with "when i sang for arr, it became a big deal", do we guess that it is the latter.

Like you say, we don't know the exact tone. And also, "it became a big deal" with fans or inside the house? I presume with the public and fans. Without knowing the tone or who it became a big deal for precisely, we'd be ill placed to assume a negative drift at home here IMO

PS: The latest single is horrendous. nArAsam.

Suresh Krishna (director of Sathya / Veera / Indiran Chandiran) has written a book and the following tweets by Rajini Ramachandran are quite interesting. These contain images of a few pages of the book :

Page 1 : http://twitter.com/rajinirams/status/499775978864771072
Page 2 : http://twitter.com/rajinirams/status/499776148729888768
Page 3 : http://twitter.com/rajinirams/status/499776536115826689
Page 4 : http://twitter.com/rajinirams/status/499777096395157506

Gist of them :

1. Raja recorded a song for Veera which was initially approved by producer / director and then later director & his "team" disliked the tune.

2. Suresh Krishna told rAsA that he & his crew felt it could be better

3. rAsA was upset that Suresh Krishna talked about "his crew" and made two phone calls to Panju A (producer) and Rajini (hero) about his displeasure, right in front of director

4. rAsA sent off the director "see you later" with iRukkam

5. The director went to producer and hero, asking them "what to do". Rajini advised him to simply sit tight and do nothing. (Which the director pugazhndhufies as great decision / advice).

6. rAsA himself called all three to studio and gave them different songs that became chartbusters.

One thing that caught my eye is this Rajinikanth comment to rAsA :

ஒரு விஷயம் மட்டும் நல்லாப் புரியுது ராஜா. கொஞ்சம் உணர்வுரீதியா இறுக்கம் அடைந்தா உங்க கிட்ட இருந்து அற்புதமான ட்யூன்கள் கிடைக்குது

Something similar to what we've been talking about, for years before too

^^^ idhukku Raaja therivichcha maruppu:

https://twitter.com/eestweets/status/499793652013490176

vicks wrote:'Aalap' Raju - upcoming bass guitarist - seems to be a harcore IR fan, has apparently played for him as well (anyone know what song that is, likely some recent album):

Aalap should have ended the interview when the dumbwit interviewers asked him how Bass guitar looks and sounds like   
common thread I had noticed among celeb-Raaja fans from TN is that they recount only '80s hit' songs which any mellisai/solace needy ones
would/could relate to and find a place in their compilation cds  but nothing can do a greater disservice to Raaja than this constant pandering
of 80s hit numbers every single time. thankfully our padosi celeb fans(cue:Shareeth/Vamsy/Keeravani) have much better sense of Raaja

The interviewers confirmed my long held view that current gen of avg. Indian listeners just don't have the ear for real bass, what they think bass
is mostly bloated/heart pulsating/thumping variety hence all the consumables from headphones/music systems @home/in-car entertainments/
even the cd recordings are tuned exactly to that. this ain't just an India specific phenomena but other countries have an option of neutral/flat/uncolored devices and recordings but avg. Indian listener are mostly condemned to this system.

Thanks to sagi.

Raja paduthum padu

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xykyBqOpm8k&list=PLLiHY9qpkwZOBWiqEIja1Ls-K1umckN6G

from Pa Vijay....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCZvAghHH08&index=1&list=PLLiHY9qpkwZOBWiqEIja1Ls-K1umckN6G

Ilaiyaraja ------- Feelings .. Especially for True Feelings.......

avar paatai patri....... yar sonnalum............ ellam Feelings based dhan............ 

Tea shop...... Bus..... ethanai mukkiya pangu vagithadhu.........

Nammai pola oruvarin anubavam......


http://tamil.thehindu.com/opinion/columns/article6325467.ece

Singer Anitha.. Interview....  

last mins of the programe.. she sings correctly.... Putham pudhu kaalai.....  padathil... kaaLai nu paadi irupar....



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8JLJsqCUr8

ipodhu kaeten.. ANitha.. Megha.. Putham pudhu kaalai... nanraga irukiradhu.. paatu vandha podhu avvalavu pidikavilai...
adhu dhan IR.....  Naal aga aga.. paatu taste aga irukum....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzABd7oVxYY

indha video vil........  IR.. Veedu varai uravu......... original madhiiri padi kaatuvar.... enna oru bhavam......... enna oru Soft.....

Panju Arunachalam.. oru interview vil.. IR patri sollum podhu..  ipadi sonnar.. " Avan paadi kaatinadhum mayangiten"

யுவனைப் பாராட்ட மறந்த இளையராஜா…!

People trying hard for vambu...

இந்த நிலையில், உங்களது இசையில் உருவான பாடல்களில் இளையராஜாவுக்கு பிடித்தமான பாடல்கள் ஏதாவது உள்ளதா? என்று யுவனிடம் கேட்டால், நான் 100 படங்களுக்கு இசையமைத்து விட்டேன். சமீபகால எனது பாடல்கள் ரசிகர்கள் மத்தியில் பெரிய அளவில் ஹிட்டாகி வருகிறது. ஆனால், என் தந்தைக்கு எனது இப்போதைய பாடல்கள் எதுவும் பிடித்ததாக அவர் என்னிடம் சொல்லவில்லை.

ஆனால், தனுஷ் நடித்த முதல் படமான துள்ளுவதோ இளமை படத்தில் என் இசையில் உருவான இது காதலா என்ற பாடலை அந்த சமயத்தில் ஒருநாள் என் தந்தை பாராட்டினார். அதன்பிறகு இன்றுவரை என்னை அவர் பாராட்டியதில்லை. ஆனாலும் அந்த முதல் பாராட்டு இன்று வரை என் நெஞ்சில் நிலைத்திருக்கிறது எனகிறார் யுவன்.

Claimed to be a "pre-TFM-days-mellisai" song by IR, sung by PS for AIR it seems :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-Y8SUV50ow

ஏழ்மை ஏது வறுமைகள் ஏது இன்னல் என்பதும் ஏதடி கண்ணே?

Su Ka vin venuvanam........ camera angle il oru katturai... serious ana  kindal......

http://venuvanamsuka.blogspot.in/2014/08/blog-post.html

அடுத்து புலவர் கோ.சாரங்கபாணி வந்து பாடினார். தன்னை தினமும் காலையில் இளையராஜா அவர்களின் பாடலொன்றுதான் தூக்கத்திலிருந்து எழுப்பி விடுகிறது என்று சொல்லி, முழுப்பாடலையும் பாடினார். அவர் பாடிய அந்தப் பாடல், புதுவை அரவிந்தர் அன்னையைப் பற்றி கங்கை அமரன் அவர்கள் இயற்றி, இசைத்து, பாடிய பாடல். இப்படியாக அவர் ஒரே பாடலின் மூலம் இளையராஜா அவர்களின் மனதில் நீங்கா இடம் பிடித்தார். 


    

IR-KH black & whilte photo

The Hindu wrote:
This is not a new anecdote (and people familiar with the Kamal Haasan mythology will know where this is headed), but it was something to hear it in person. The Harry Nilsson original is a mid-range song, and the Three Dog Night cover touches a few higher notes, but when Kamal Haasan launched into the number, he leaped over an octave and hit a stunning falsetto note – it isn’t there in either of the earlier versions.

This is probably how he sang the song that night, at the function, and the audience applauded. Seated in the audience, and listening very carefully to the way Kamal caught that pitch, was Ilaiyaraja.

Does someone know which year was this thingy?

Must be 1978. Raja got impressed with Kamal and made him sing the humming in one of the interludes of orE idam nirandharam of sattam en kaiyil

Engengo sellum from VIOLIN Vicky.....  ( kaekamalaye.. Guitar... Piano nu IR songs...  Solrar............. 

Enravadhu oru naal.... Violin il.. IR song. solvar.. idhu varai adharku Neram varavillai endru ninaikiren.)

Engengo sellum -   Chords.......  kaeka kaeka Inimai............ IR padathai solli tharum oru Arumaiyana Teacher....

sila seconds... edhir paaramal  vandhu pogum... ta tak ........   oru Bridge madhirii...... romba inspire anen........

(ipadi than edhavadhu solla mudiyum.. indha padam ellam..indha  jenmathil illai.. adutha jenmam vendum.. IR paatukaga.. Guitar.
katru kondu.. therindhu kolla..) ... Vicky... Really U R GIFTED.....  ungaluku therindhu.. adhai engalukum solvadhal....
We are Gifted Becoz of U.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9nIps4cZWE

app_engine wrote: IR-KH black & whilte photo

The Hindu wrote:
This is not a new anecdote (and people familiar with the Kamal Haasan mythology will know where this is headed), but it was something to hear it in person. The Harry Nilsson original is a mid-range song, and the Three Dog Night cover touches a few higher notes, but when Kamal Haasan launched into the number, he leaped over an octave and hit a stunning falsetto note – it isn’t there in either of the earlier versions.

This is probably how he sang the song that night, at the function, and the audience applauded. Seated in the audience, and listening very carefully to the way Kamal caught that pitch, was Ilaiyaraja.

Does someone know which year was this thingy?

I think it was One is the Lonliest Number and Ninaivo Oru Paravai which was inspired by One's the Lonliest Number. Remember Kamal refusing to sing and IR telling him this is similar to what he sung the previous night

Beautiful Upload.....  Thanks to R Prasanna.

from Ravishankar

Sweet to the Chorus.. adhu IR.......  The Best One......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4xqbGcdfW8

Soulful Solo hummings

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDdG7M-WJkQ