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Post  app_engine Thu Sep 12, 2013 8:29 pm

rAsA sang idhayam oru kOvil on Karur stage


இதயக் கோயில் படத்தில் இடம்பெற்ற இதயம் ஒரு கோயில் பாடலைப் பாடுமாறு மீண்டும் கேட்டனர். உடனே சிரித்துக் கொண்டே, அந்தப் பாடலைப் பாட, மக்கள் கேட்டு ரசித்தனர்.

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Post  V_S Thu Sep 12, 2013 8:37 pm

Welcome here kr and nambik. Smile

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Post  app_engine Thu Sep 12, 2013 8:54 pm

oosi maNi pAsi maNi


மேலும், "ஊசிமணி பாசிமணி என் உள்ளத்திலே பாசமணி..." எனத் தொடங்கும் பாடலுக்கு பொதுமக்கள் முன்னிலையில் இளையராஜா மெட்டமைத்தார்.

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Post  jaiganesh Thu Sep 12, 2013 9:00 pm

one more link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrIoKNcKzdc

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Post  jaiganesh Thu Sep 12, 2013 9:08 pm

just amazed at how he can change the chaos into order with only one song.

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Post  Usha Thu Sep 12, 2013 9:59 pm

Thank u Jaiganesh.......

Tune matum dhana Raja.. ipadi naan nenachu parukum podhae.. Raja solrar..........  idhuku  orchestration...  adhu ungaluku
theriyadhu.. recording anniki than theiryum ............  S.. Orchestration.. Instrumentation dhanae Raja.............

Bhakthi padal.....  IR's Own Feelings............ Divine...........  Soulful.

Unnai ninaikamal enna nadakum
naan 
ennai ninaikamal enna seivadhu.....

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Post  app_engine Thu Sep 12, 2013 10:57 pm

jaiganesh wrote:one more link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrIoKNcKzdc
கூட்டணி - ஒரு புண்ணாக்கும் கெடையாது - நம்ம எப்பவும் தனி தான்
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Post  kiru Fri Sep 13, 2013 1:24 am

Usha wrote:Thank u Jaiganesh.......

Tune matum dhana Raja.. ipadi naan nenachu parukum podhae.. Raja solrar..........  idhuku  orchestration...  adhu ungaluku
theriyadhu.. recording anniki than theiryum ............  S.. Orchestration.. Instrumentation dhanae Raja.............

Bhakthi padal.....  IR's Own Feelings............ Divine...........  Soulful.

Unnai ninaikamal enna nadakum
naan 
ennai ninaikamal enna seivadhu.....
Usha, thanks for the links to the BBC program earlier. It was a very good summary of IR's style. I have not seen an equivalent succinct article/analyses on IR's style. Orchestration - vaadhyangaLin orunginaippu - nice tamil. He talked senthoorappooVe's folk tune+ WCM orchestration, varali raagam and also about the choral arrangements in dEvar magan, a good sample of the whole spectrum.

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Post  nambik Fri Sep 13, 2013 2:39 am

Come on guys - no comments on this link I posted earlier at all??

http://www.thehindu.com/features/cinema/the-perfect-arrangement/article4564366.ece

Really illustrates the huge difference between the methodologies of IR and Rahman and the later generation of "composers".

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Post  V_S Fri Sep 13, 2013 2:43 am

Thanks Jai for the link. அன்பால எல்லாரையும் கட்டிபோட்டுட்டார். Overwhelmed by the crowd, their respect and regards to Maestro, especially down south. Can't believe my ears and eyes how Maestro starts composing, starting directly with lyrics.  I was totally melted hearing that devotional song. He composes and sings casually just like we talk. What a gift this man has got! No one can ever imagine what he has done. This is true spontaneity (cha! even spontaneity'la kooda 'true' nu pOdavEndiyirukku, so ashamed). Most of all, that smile and glittering eyes clearly tells how pure that man is. When Snehan highlighted how Maestro was not much interested in financial aspect, rather more interested in doing music, I was so moved. Once in a lifetime moment. Those who witnessed this event live are so lucky. Once in a lifetime moment, priceless!

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Post  app_engine Fri Sep 13, 2013 3:14 am

nambik wrote:Come on guys - no comments on this link I posted earlier at all??

http://www.thehindu.com/features/cinema/the-perfect-arrangement/article4564366.ece

Really illustrates the huge difference between the methodologies of IR and Rahman and the later generation of "composers".
I guess this link got posted months before and briefly talked about Smile

Pretty obvious difference between today's biggies and rAsA Smile

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Post  V_S Fri Sep 13, 2013 6:01 am

This is what I have been hinting every time and now it has become public. The saddest part is these music directors call themselves 'composers'. If that word is alive, it would have committed suicide. Most of them shamelessly steal others brain and work to get the music out of them. Just for the name sake they credit the musicians for playing (only, till now these music producers are not even in picture as they are paid heavily to keep mum), but keep the composer/music director tag intact for themselves, thereby fooling themselves, musicians, people and art. Who cares, that's the norm of film music nowadays.

On top of it, they try to equate, compare and ridicule pure music which Maestro really composes on his own (spontaneously) without anyone's help or interaction. Even this single man's versatility cannot be even matched or dreamt by all these 1000 men put together who produces the 'patch-work' music, as it has already lost its soul. But, this impossibly humane wonder suffers an all time low, while the stolen stuff gets a huge advantage. This the best meaning for the word 'KALIYUGAM'.

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Post  V_S Fri Sep 13, 2013 6:04 am

http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/chennai/when-ilayarajas-music-inspired-lalgudi-jayaraman/article5121108.ece
On Thursday, Ilayaraja realised the late violinist had composed a keerthana in the ragavarthini raga, the inspiration for which came from his own composition on goddess Meenakshi of Madurai.
Can anyone please tell me this song composed by Maestro?


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Post  Usha Fri Sep 13, 2013 12:46 pm

Kiru,

 Thanks a lot.......  full portion um innum kaekalai.. kaetadhaiyae thirumba thirumba kaetundu iruken....... IR' works.Ethanai vishayam............... oruthar sonnare.........  adharku oru Big Thanks to this Gentle Man....................

full portion um kelungo kiru..............

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Post  Usha Fri Sep 13, 2013 12:54 pm

nambi and app,

  IR oda mudinjadhu.. MUsic director  or Music composer nu sollikaradhu.................. Thats all.............
adhanala  IR GReat dhan.........................

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Post  app_engine Fri Sep 13, 2013 4:17 pm

yAr peththa puLLaiyO theriyAdhu

But, this part got caught by my search engine :

Ayushmann certainly is as romantic in real life as we have seen him on screen. Hume Tumse Pyar Kitna and Ae Zindagi Gale Le are two of Ayushmann's favourite songs. He also loves SD Burman and Ilayaraja songs.

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Post  app_engine Fri Sep 13, 2013 4:22 pm

Look how ToI reports the Lalgudi book release


Ilayaraja spoke of how Jayaraman's children — vocalists G J R Krishnan and Vijayalakshmi, both present on the occasion — performed chamber concerts at his residence during Navratri. "At one concert, one of my tunes in raga varthini was performed. Jayaraman sir was so inspired that he also composed a tune using the same raga," said Ilayaraja.
And compare it to The Hindu report


He made the discovery while releasing a biography on the violinist — An Incurable Romantic, The Musical Journey of Lalgudi Jayaraman. Ilayaraja said, long ago, he had sung his keerthana — manamurugi unnai — for the violin maestro during Navrathri celebrations at his house. “He meticulously listened to every swaram of the song and appreciated my efforts. Today, I am proud to know that my song had inspired him. But I am not qualified to speak of his greatness,” said Ilayaraja.

Ilayaraja said the violin exponent’s keerthanas and thillanas embodied pure feelings that could not be explained in words, proving time and again that works of music could not be claimed by anyone as intellectual property.

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Post  isaifan Fri Sep 13, 2013 7:02 pm

A little late comment on Arr's interview and indirect comments on IR.
I agree to that Vadivelu clip/reaction Wink, surely ARR has semmaya vaangirukaar (just as singer Srinivas;) )from IR when he was learning as a kid. He was no expert then (nor even now) on most things that IR does, but looks like he is still hurt. That ego+jealousy within is making him comment now this way (unnecessarily)..as he got covered by the humility shield by media/fans earlier (from 92). Frankly, he should've rejected Mozart of Madras pattam when media started using it as he did nothing great with violins/WCM by then, but he was glad to play along! Wouldn't they know Mozart better? so much for being humble!

I am of the opinion that there are some (like ARR) who are affraid  shockingly surprised looking at IR going strong and touching (new) creative heights as he is now, even after 20 years of 92. This is unexpected for them..as there are still some film makers who make films with IR as their strength.
Srinivas is a failure as a singer, and his jealousy shows in his tweets/comments (as IR saw Srini's limitations clearly....no bit-bit-wise recording you see Wink)

It is great to see IR being frank and honest all along without depending on any of the top directors/producers or pleasing them for favors (feel the pride of "every note is mine" during Hey Ram interview, makes even more sense now with other MDs agreeing to sharing credit on CDs and inside studios rotfl ).

As he said in RRCP song composing, "koottani, punnaakku onnum illai, naama/namba eppovum thanidhaan. Mela avar irukaar, keezhe naama/namba irukom" (of sorts, actually comparing with maNNu). Living the Singham single-aathaan varum. Thassaal your honour! noteworthy

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Post  kiru Fri Sep 13, 2013 7:47 pm

In one interview Rahman said (about IR) - "Even now he makes good songs"   :-)

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Post  isaifan Fri Sep 13, 2013 8:26 pm

Yes..just somewhat better than the way they do after 50 movies Wink 

And regarding the comment during the KJY felicitation, I will give ARR the benefit of doubt..as KJY did give life to some ordinary songs during 70s/80s (like hero Mohan Babu's movies used to have one main song by KJY etc.).

Just in case any co-MDs like ARR (or Directors like BR/MR) mean something like that about IR, then think of their ability..they gave like what..5 KJY hits in 10yrs? scratch  IR gave KJY/SPB/PS/SJ/MV/KSChitra/Mano great songs, besides other singers like UR, in album-after-album noteworthy .
One reason I strongly feel SPB/KJY were sidelined and new (in)capable singers promoted from 92 for variety was because no composer, except IR, had (and has) the ability to give songs that are worthy of SPB/KJY. Imagine ARR or any other co-MD having SPB/KJY/PS/SJ/KSC/MV and composing 6 songs in an album....chippu chippaaaa varudhu rotfl2 

So, only IR can compose songs (in quality and quantity) that are worthy of KJY/SPB. It is for other co-MDs (like ARR and later MDs who share credit with others) that KJY/SPB sang their ordinary songs/tunes and gave life/hits to them.

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Post  Usha Fri Sep 13, 2013 9:08 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3zLGvDSmNI

indha clip il............. Gopal  . romba azhaga solrar... .......

Rajavae.. ORchestrate anadhalae.. ivarae tune potadhalae.. vera oru orchestarter thevai ilai ivaruku....... 

Eper patta vishayam............  idhai vida sirapaga  ARR seidhu vittu.. IR ai sollalam..  indha vazhikae varamal... epadi sollalam IR composing patri.............

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Post  Usha Fri Sep 13, 2013 9:33 pm

Thiruvasagam.. adhai patri.. IR sonnadhu... old one dhan.. ipodhu parthal.. adhanin...  Depth............. ellarukum
ipodhudhan theiryum................

Conducting.........................  Beauty to the core............ He is The King.................

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soqEWe-Ep_8

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Post  plum Sat Sep 14, 2013 6:36 am

"Singham single-aathaan varum. Thassaal your honour"


Actually, an internet photo meme along these lines is a good tool to land a telling slap on Raghu fans.
<I mean, the ones where after a India win, they put together a collage of Viswaroopam with bubbles connecting Viswaroopam situation to india match>


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Post  plum Sat Sep 14, 2013 6:36 am

"Singham single-aathaan varum. Thassaal your honour"


Actually, an internet photo meme along these lines is a good tool to land a telling slap on Raghu fans.
<I mean, the ones where after a India win, they put together a collage of Viswaroopam with bubbles connecting Viswaroopam situation to india match>


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Post  plum Sat Sep 14, 2013 6:38 am

kazhudhainga dhAn koottamA compose paNNum<see footnote>, kuiylukku sondha kuralE pOdhum

footnote: apdi sErndhu compose paNdradhum oru kazhudhai kaththal dhAn

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