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Post  app_engine on Thu Jan 03, 2019 7:46 pm

This is the karoke, with female singer (Hamsapriya) included. Only male singer needs to sing his portion:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkJy-7Fc9Kw



So, the white lady was only doing what most actresses do Laughing - not even need to do lip-sync in this video.

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Post  mythila on Fri Jan 04, 2019 11:40 am

app_engine wrote:

So, the white lady was only doing what most actresses do Laughing - not even need to do lip-sync in this video. 

OhO!! kEppaiyila neivazhinja kadhai maadhiri ayiduthe !   Shocked

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Post  Usha on Sat Jan 05, 2019 8:06 am

mythila wrote:
app_engine wrote:

So, the white lady was only doing what most actresses do Laughing - not even need to do lip-sync in this video. 

OhO!! kEppaiyila neivazhinja kadhai maadhiri ayiduthe !   Shocked

mythila,
   Sorry for the wrong news..
keppaiyile neivazhinja kaekaravaluku bhudhi enga pochu.. Sad

Naan dhan sollanam idhai........ Smile

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Post  Usha on Sat Jan 05, 2019 8:08 am

fring and app,
sorry for the wrong news...... (Enaku doubt vandhadhu.. indha kuralil.. epadi thamizhkaranga madhirii kural irukum endru... Embarassed )

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Post  mythila on Sat Jan 05, 2019 12:16 pm

No worry Usha akkA Smile
Foreigner or not, the lady singer did a fab job of a quite "tough to sing" composition.

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Post  Usha on Mon Jan 07, 2019 5:35 am

mythila wrote:No worry Usha akkA Smile
Foreigner or not, the lady singer did a fab job of a quite "tough to sing" composition.

Thank u mythila.. yes.. paadinadhai rasikalam dhan...... yar padinal enna.. Nanraga paadinadhai rasikalam .

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Post  Usha on Mon Jan 07, 2019 5:36 am

Director Vasanth.. IR patri....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5l3zO8welk

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Post  Usha on Mon Jan 07, 2019 7:09 am

Rajavai kondadugirargal.. kondadatum........

Thatha mel asai ulla perangal pol.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCEtDZXin3A

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Post  panniapurathar on Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:14 pm

Another fabulous episode from Madhura Sudha:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6y5hc-Q2neo

IR and Tamil Heritage Instruments.

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Post  Usha on Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:00 pm

Advocate Sumathi about IR...

Ooradangum samathile.. paatai patri avar sollum vishayam.. (enaku acharyam.. ennai polave, ennai madhiriyae ivarukum indha paatu ipadi
pidithadha endru kaetu ...(avar sonnadhu polave) enakum acahryam dhan ....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGXjNwtzWYE

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Post  Usha on Mon Jan 21, 2019 8:04 am

from Arokya Manoj.. Sri ranga ranga..

enna oru vaasipu.. Ilaiyarajavai purindhal matumae indha bhavam ipadi varum...... Beautiful..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aELbvxsK8Ws

Oorellam un paatu dhan. Excellent

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hOfsApAY9k

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Post  Usha on Thu Jan 24, 2019 4:45 am

IR interview
ipodhudhan kaeka poren.

Thuravu nilai.. kaeta kelviku.. epadi oru bhadhil.. enna oru unmai... 
patru iruku than....

mozhi patri....  sollum bhadhil... enna oru sincerity. idhu dhan Raja.. adhanal dhan Raja...

manam dhan unmaiyana isaikaruvi....
isai kuruvi endru solvadhai vida isai endru sollalam...

endha paataiyum endha soozhnilaikum podalam...
adharku vera vera manam vendum endru thevai illaiyae...

samooka valai thalathil... ungalin katka padatha padal endru kelviku

ennai nerugum nanbargal solvargal...

rasigargal.. kaetu kondu irupadhu unmaiyil parata vendiya vishayam dhan..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RszIdoxUsE

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Post  crimson king on Sat Jan 26, 2019 10:00 pm

Usha wrote:IR interview
ipodhudhan kaeka poren.

Thuravu nilai.. kaeta kelviku.. epadi oru bhadhil.. enna oru unmai... 
patru iruku than....

mozhi patri....  sollum bhadhil... enna oru sincerity. idhu dhan Raja.. adhanal dhan Raja...

manam dhan unmaiyana isaikaruvi....
isai kuruvi endru solvadhai vida isai endru sollalam...

endha paataiyum endha soozhnilaikum podalam...
adharku vera vera manam vendum endru thevai illaiyae...

samooka valai thalathil... ungalin katka padatha padal endru kelviku

ennai nerugum nanbargal solvargal...

rasigargal.. kaetu kondu irupadhu unmaiyil parata vendiya vishayam dhan..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RszIdoxUsE

By far his best video interview.  He was very relaxed and for a change, the interviewers didn't try to challenge him and annoy him.

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Post  Usha on Mon Jan 28, 2019 9:33 am

crimson king wrote:

By far his best video interview.  He was very relaxed and for a change, the interviewers didn't try to challenge him and annoy him.

Unmai.. avarai kastha padthamal.. oru nalla interivew......

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Post  Usha on Mon Jan 28, 2019 9:33 am

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sqpmo1

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Post  Usha on Wed Jan 30, 2019 6:53 am

Abdhul Hameed. Cylone radio interview... 40 years before...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woGQa-tAYew

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Post  Usha on Wed Jan 30, 2019 7:20 am

sid sriram about IR music..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uu3kD5DmZmg

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Post  BC on Wed Jan 30, 2019 1:38 pm

You would have watched Advocate Sumathi talk passionately about IR songs on YouTube.   

Here is the BOOK she mentioned: "Pulan Mayakkam" written by Aathmaarthi.  I found that there are online articles titled "Pulan mayakkam" (don't know if it is from the books).  The books are available in 4 volumes - all of which deal with TFM.  I wonder which ones have details about IR music.  In the video, she is talking about Book-4, it seems. 

http://andhimazhai.com/news/lists/columns/5  

This is the link to the ONLINE ARTICLES.  Starting from page 6, goes up to page 1 (in reverse order).  It has about 99 articles ending on page 1.  I'm hoping those are excerpts from the books (?).  

Very long reads. Neutral   Just completed a few of them today.  

Zhakart.com and Commonfolks.in have some the first 2 volumes for sale.  But all of them are out of Volume-3.  Volume-4 is yet to be published (or maybe just entered).  Just in case, anybody wants the physical book for purchase.

https://zhakart.com/products/pulan-mayakkam-3?variant=13115735867462  

https://www.commonfolks.in/books/d/pulan-mayakkam-thoguthi-1 

Any more information about this is appreciated.  Happy reading!

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Post  app_engine on Wed Jan 30, 2019 7:16 pm

Usha wrote:sid sriram about IR music..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uu3kD5DmZmg

Not a fan of this singer's voice or singing style BUT he is quite good in this interview!
(He sings 'kaNNE kalaimAnE' with absolutely no bhAvam / feel, flat - நானே இதை விட நல்லாப்பாடுவேன்னு நினைக்கிறேன்)

His understanding of the "don't touch" nature of IR's melodies is correct Smile Also, the appreciation for the precise orch.

Funny that people freaked out on him for his "cover" attempt of thenpANdichcheemaiyilE Laughing

அந்த பயம் இருக்கட்டும்!


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Post  app_engine on Wed Jan 30, 2019 7:31 pm

BC wrote:
http://andhimazhai.com/news/lists/columns/5  

This is the link to the ONLINE ARTICLES.  Starting from page 6, goes up to page 1 (in reverse order).  It has about 99 articles ending on page 1.  I'm hoping those are excerpts from the books (?).  

Very long reads. Neutral   Just completed a few of them today.  


Tried reading one article :
http://andhimazhai.com/news/view/aathmarthi07.html

I'm sorry - very boring Embarassed

Though he writes about my most favorite topic (TFM / IR) he is simply laborious.  Having read 10000's of posts on tfmpage & mayyam (and me myself writing a ton of them), his articles will be tough for me Embarassed

Let me pass.

BTW, he is telling that KJY hums in 'malai rANi mudhAni' of orE vAnam orE bhoomi, not sure if it was a typo.


ஒரே வானம் ஒரே பூமி படத்தில் வருகிற மலைராணி முந்தானை  பாடலுக்கு முந்தைய லாலா என்று தொடங்கும் தொகையறாவைக் கேட்பவர்கள் நூறுமுறை சத்தியம் செய்தாலும் ஒப்புக்கொள்ள மாட்டார்கள் அதைப் பாடியவர் ஏசுதாஸ் என்று.

That humming is actually by Jolly Abraham.

One more such glaring error is crediting "mannavA mannavA mannAdhi mannan allavA' (Walter Vetrivel) to Uma Ramanan - it was actually sung by Sunantha - may not be easy to get the actual singer but even an ordinary radio listener can identify that it is NOT Uma Ramanan. When he highlights an article on her, he should do minimum research at least IMHO.

ஏற்கனவே சவச்சவ என்று இருக்கும் கட்டுரை மீது தகவல் பிழை இன்னும் கூடுதல் எரிச்சல் உண்டாக்குகிறது Sad

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Post  ravinat on Wed Jan 30, 2019 8:03 pm

app_engine wrote:
Usha wrote:sid sriram about IR music..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uu3kD5DmZmg

Not a fan of this singer's voice or singing style BUT he is quite good in this interview!
(He sings 'kaNNE kalaimAnE' with absolutely no bhAvam / feel, flat - நானே இதை விட நல்லாப்பாடுவேன்னு நினைக்கிறேன்)

His understanding of the "don't touch" nature of IR's melodies is correct Smile Also, the appreciation for the precise orch.

Funny that people freaked out on him for his "cover" attempt of thenpANdichcheemaiyilE Laughing

அந்த பயம் இருக்கட்டும்!

Thanks for sharing this video. I have not been frequent here as I am tied up with a lot of other activities. I will get back soon...

Firstly, the goodies....


  1. Glad to see a singer being able to analyze Raja's music a bit
  2. As he has really not sung for Raja, this is not bad to begin with. He is honest that he didn't know much about Raja till he got into the industry


Next, the bummers...


  1. Between BR and him, they try to play the Raja 80s nostalgia card and that falls totally short for me. Grow up Sid. Listen to some music after 1986. Raja is still composing music, FYI
  2. As a major in music and having learned CCM and western harmony, could you not say a little deeper into Raja harmony? For the general public, stuff like motifs and handling of inflections can sound 'intellectual', but that is BR stuff - I thought you are better than BR :-(
  3. As a Carnatic singer, (I am on record stating that I cant stand his CCM for more than 5 min. Stand up to Prasanna, who does a fantastic job) at least he could have brought up some Carnatic nuances that Raja has used that nobody has surfaced
  4. Stop BS -ing about Raja's orchestration. If you really understand it, state a few insights on his orchestration or else, stop that stereotype
  5. For heavens sake, please do not talk about Raja's BGM having not watched his movies


Sorry to come back with a rant. I couldn't help it...

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Post  app_engine on Wed Jan 30, 2019 8:27 pm

Did anyone post this 40 year old audio interview of IR here? It is doing rounds in twitter!

To IOKS in 1979 it seems!

The interviewer is none other than Abdul Hamid - excellent one - a real treasure!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woGQa-tAYew


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Post  kamalaakarsh on Wed Jan 30, 2019 11:14 pm

ravinat wrote:
app_engine wrote:
Usha wrote:sid sriram about IR music..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uu3kD5DmZmg

Not a fan of this singer's voice or singing style BUT he is quite good in this interview!
(He sings 'kaNNE kalaimAnE' with absolutely no bhAvam / feel, flat - நானே இதை விட நல்லாப்பாடுவேன்னு நினைக்கிறேன்)

His understanding of the "don't touch" nature of IR's melodies is correct Smile Also, the appreciation for the precise orch.

Funny that people freaked out on him for his "cover" attempt of thenpANdichcheemaiyilE Laughing

அந்த பயம் இருக்கட்டும்!

Thanks for sharing this video. I have not been frequent here as I am tied up with a lot of other activities. I will get back soon...

Firstly, the goodies....


  1. Glad to see a singer being able to analyze Raja's music a bit
  2. As he has really not sung for Raja, this is not bad to begin with. He is honest that he didn't know much about Raja till he got into the industry


Next, the bummers...


  1. Between BR and him, they try to play the Raja 80s nostalgia card and that falls totally short for me. Grow up Sid. Listen to some music after 1986. Raja is still composing music, FYI
  2. As a major in music and having learned CCM and western harmony, could you not say a little deeper into Raja harmony? For the general public, stuff like motifs and handling of inflections can sound 'intellectual', but that is BR stuff - I thought you are better than BR :-(
  3. As a Carnatic singer, (I am on record stating that I cant stand his CCM for more than 5 min. Stand up to Prasanna, who does a fantastic job) at least he could have brought up some Carnatic nuances that Raja has used that nobody has surfaced
  4. Stop BS -ing about Raja's orchestration. If you really understand it, state a few insights on his orchestration or else, stop that stereotype
  5. For heavens sake, please do not talk about Raja's BGM having not watched his movies


Sorry to come back with a rant. I couldn't help it...

I think the fact that he started discovering Raaja only in the last 5 years is the reason for most of the bummers here. Given Raaja's huge repertoire, it will take years for him to discover, uncover, process, internalize and reach that state of enlightenment especially on Raaja's less popular songs, carnatic songs, WCM songs etc. Honestly, I was not expecting him to talk all that. My reaction was, like your's, "not bad to begin with". And he seems to have got one core element of Raaja's music even by mere scratching the surface - "The music is so precise and deliberate... so much that it cannot be perfected anymore and it must not be tampered with". That is something most of the fans agree too. I like the fact that he reached to that perspective fairly quickly (for someone coming from a totally different background, different influences, preferences, culture etc.).

And regarding that BGM - my guess is that he is referring to interludes (lot of industry people still refer to them as 1st BGM, 2nd BGM and so on) and not actual BGM of the movie.
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Post  Usha on Thu Jan 31, 2019 11:53 am

ரசிகர்கள் எனக்காக டிக்கட் வாங்கி நிறைய படங்களை பார்த்தாங்க - 


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vR_0iqPS9uk

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Post  ravinat on Thu Jan 31, 2019 8:02 pm

app_engine wrote:Did anyone post this 40 year old audio interview of IR here? It is doing rounds in twitter!

To IOKS in 1979 it seems!

The interviewer is none other than Abdul Hamid - excellent one - a real treasure!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woGQa-tAYew

Enjoyed the interview. Didn't realize I went over my data usage limit on my cell phone :-) Nice to hear Raja speak about techniques. The Uravadum Nenjam part was new to me.

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