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Post  app_engine Tue Aug 17, 2021 7:31 pm

After listening to 'vaNNappoongAvanam' song for weeks on repeat in my vehicle, my initial thought was to do a long post on that song and thus get out of the OCD Smile

i.e. one post in a "song of the day" or "repeat worthy song"  and thus get it out of the loop.

However, after watching the video (for the first time) last weekend, recognized that it is part of a long-running TFM tradition - can even be called a "genre" - with IR himself doing a ton of them over the years. Most of them super numbers!

So, songs with such theme will be featured in this thread (and on one of these days, there will be a post among them on the eeramAna rOjAvE song also).


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Post  app_engine Tue Aug 17, 2021 7:49 pm

Well - a little bit of irony - I want to start this thread with a non-IR song - that had been playing in my mind non-stop last night Embarassed

This theme of "young lady having mirth / happiness / carefree time PRIOR to getting into life's complex situations such as காதல், கல்யாணம், கத்திரிக்காய் (சமையல்), குடும்பம், குட்டிகள் இன்ன பிற" had been there possibly from the sangam literature Laughing 

We often hear of poems that depict தலைவி & தோழியர் Smile

I'm not going too far back but just to the pre-IR days / 70's when one such song was frequently played on radio. What makes it a very apt choice to showcase this theme is the AFTERMATH that happens in the story. (The girl gets pushed into a horrible / unhappy life of prostitution after that - sex being a favorite theme of the famous director KB).

What more - the song is set to "thakita-thakita" 1-2-3 rhythm, in line with the "thuLLal" situation of such girls. (Of course, #IR_Waltz got used predominantly by Maestro too , in majority of such songs. There had been exceptions and I'll mention as applicable when featuring such songs).

The song I'm talking about is "ஆண்டவனின் தோட்டத்திலே அழகு சிரிக்குது" - MD-ed by V Kumar (and IR played instruments for some songs with him those days) in the melodious voice of PS.

Listen / watch the song in this YT - as a prelude to this thread, which will hereafter feature only IR songs Smile

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cR8pa6uqtsM


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Post  app_engine Wed Aug 18, 2021 11:43 pm

#1 OhO mEgam vandhadhO
(SJ, mouna rAgam)

This should be the quintessential song for this category, especially as presented in the flow of the movie Wink  

i.e. without accounting for the flashback (that has an interesting love story). 

If we take that Karthik portion into account, this may not qualify - but the pAdal varigaL / picturization / overall relevance in the context argues for keeping this song in the thread. 

"That's ok, but why pick this first?" - one might ask. 

Nothing specific, I wanted a song by SJ (who perhaps sang most of such numbers). In addition, this one is some kind of a trend-setter in that time period, almost forcing the other directors / producers to follow - have a similar song in a number of movies.

For MR himself, this was the first biggie success in TF field. (He had success in Kannada / Malayalam prior but his TF ventures were so-so. pagaL nilavu was talked about, possibly made some money also but today remembered only for its songs. idhayakkOyil was more of a motherland pictures movie and not a director's one. That way, this was MR's first biggie TF.)

Let me collect here Vaali's pAdal varigaL which are quite apt to the theme of the thread:

ஓகோ மேகம் வந்ததோ? ஏதோ ராகம் தந்ததோ?
எல்லாம் பூவைக்காகத்தான் பாடும் பாவைக்காகத்தான்
பூக்கள் மேல் நீர்த்துளிகள் வெண்பாக்கள் பாடாதோ?
தூறல் போடும் நேரம் பூஞ்சாரல் வீசாதோ?

யாரும் சொல்லாத காவியம் ஆடை கொண்டிங்கு ஆடுது
நேரம் வந்தாலென்ன பொன்னோவியம் வண்ணம் மாறாமல் மின்னுது
நான் பெண்ணானது கல்யாணம் தேடவா?
ஓர் கண்ணாளன் வந்து பூமாலை போடவா?
ஏன் அம்மாடியோ பெண் பார்க்கும் நாடகம்?
யார் வந்தாலுமென்ன திரும்பாதென் ஞாபகம்!
பூவிலங்கு தேவையில்லையே!

கால்கள் எங்கேயும் ஓடலாம் காதல் இல்லாமல் வாழலாம்
வண்ண மின்னல்களாய் நின்றாடலாம் வாழ்வின் சங்கீதம் பாடலாம்
நாம் இந்நாளிலே சிட்டாக மாறலாம்
போ செவ்வானம் எங்கும் ஜிவ்வென்று ஏறலாம்
நாம் எல்லோருமே செம்மீன்கள் ஆகலாம்
வா நீரோடை எங்கும் வெள்ளோட்டம் போகலாம்
வாழ்க்கை என்ன வாழ்ந்து பார்க்கலாம்

There are lines which exactly represent the carefree attitude that generates the thuLLal inbam during this time period of life  - just to pick one "பூவிலங்கு தேவையில்லையே" - straight talks about the freedom (which will eventually go away when the complicated things happen in life).

Unfortunately for the character in the movie, such "taking away the freedom" happens the very same (or next) day Embarassed

Enjoy the video - which set the pattern for many other song picturizations in the coming years Smile

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UoeigM2kyg


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Post  app_engine Thu Aug 19, 2021 9:10 pm

#2 oru poongAvanam puthu manam
(SJ, agni natchathiram)


A song that showcased that the pre-commitment time period of a girl need not be 100% thuLLal / gym / dance kind only Laughing That it can also be a time of thimir / relaxation etc. if one had the money / richness and contentment.

Someone as rich as this girl having her own private indoor pool in 80's Chennai.

I call this song the most "thimir pidichcha" song - with such imagination as "நான் வானவில்லை வேண்டினால் ஓர் விலை கொடுத்து வாங்குவேன்" Smile  Yet another Vaali concoction!

See the lines and how they showcase the carefree and happy attitude of a rich and sophisticated lady - before any serious commitments in life :

ஒரு பூங்காவனம் புது மனம்
அதில் ரோமாஞ்சனம் தினம் தினம்

உலா வரும் கனாக்கள் கண்ணிலே
ஓராயிரம் வினாக்கள் நெஞ்சிலே

நான் காலைநேரத் தாமரை
என் கானம் யாவும் தேன் மழை
நான் கால் நடக்கும் தேவதை
என் கோயில் இந்த மாளிகை
எந்நாளும் தென்றல் வந்து வீசிடும்
என்னோடு தோழி போலப்பேசிடும்

நான் வானவில்லை வேண்டினால்
ஓர் விலை கொடுத்து வாங்குவேன்
வெண் மேகக்கூட்டம் யாவையும்
என் மெத்தையாக்கித் தூங்குவேன்
சந்தோஷப்பூக்கள் எந்தன் சோலையில்
சங்கீதம் பாடும் அந்தி மாலையில்  

This is also set to "tha-ki-ta / tha-ki-ta" #IR_Waltz albeit not at a rapid pace but a slow, soft, smooth one. Once again in the magical voice of SJ!

While I personally didn't care for the movie (watched only in the internet era and it was very boring), there are people who raved about it when it arrived (and stick to their stand even today) Embarassed However, this picturization is quite nice:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyydFitn_-g


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Post  BC Fri Aug 20, 2021 2:55 am

IR talking about the song "Oru poongaavanam" and the raagam (Suddha dhanyaasi?) at the NEPV audio launch - from 10:15 onwards in the video: 



Good movie by MR.  The way he conceived and executed the tussle between two half-brothers and the villain's role in the movie, and the climax were excellent - all enhanced and kicked up several notches by IR's terrific Background score.

This movie and Geetanjali sowed the seeds of his typical romantic pair's amateurishness and cloyingly-sweet and empty conversation between them, in post-1991 MR movies beginning from Rose and the headache still continues!  In both movies mentioned, it was at least palatable and bearable given that MR-kind of a portrayal was fresh, but then later, it became irritable and unpalatable during and after Rose.

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Post  BC Fri Aug 20, 2021 3:06 am

app_engine wrote:#1 OhO mEgam vandhadhO
(SJ, mouna rAgam)

IMHO, in my dictionary, this, Vaan megam and Jallantha (Aathaadi ammaadi) complete the 360-degree of rain moods and blues, and remain/will remain the undefeated female rain anthems (or rain-theme songs) EVER in the history of world cinema and world music!  Hail Maestro!

The song is beautifully choreographed and picturized with Revathi ruling the roost in the first two songs and Girija in the third song.

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Post  app_engine Fri Aug 20, 2021 8:55 pm

#3 malargaLil Adum iLamai
(SPS, kalyANa rAman)


Going back by a decade and hosting a still-very-fresh-sounding Shailaja song - that had the "மூ.ஆ.மு" Sridevi in half-saree (an attire that is becoming extinct I think).

One cannot totally call the character enjoying carefree singleness but "almost" fits our theme. (Actually, it will be quite difficult to get 100% self-woman kind of songs in TF - that most of the time featured romance and upheld the "kAdhal-kalyANam-kaththirkkA" values of average TN houselhold).

The girl finds pleasure in pets / animals / birds and is not too much into other cares of life (even though a mild thrill exists from the attention a rich-but-foolish boy shows to her). The lyrics of Panju exhibit both in a sweet manner :

மலர்களில் ஆடும் இளமை புதுமையே
மனதுக்குள் ஓடும் நினைவு இனிமையே ஹோய்
பருவம் சுகமே பூங்காற்றே நீ பாடு

பூமரத்தின் வாசம் வந்தால் ஏதேதோ ஆசை
நெஞ்சுக்குள் தாளாடும்
பால் வடியும் பசுங்கிளிகள் பேசாமல் பேசும்
பொன்வண்டோ தேரோடும்
சொர்க்கத்தின் பக்கத்தை இங்கு நான் காண
என்றென்றும் உன்னோடும் நாளும் நான் ஆட
வந்தேனே தோழி நீயம்மா

நான் இன்று கேட்பதெல்லாம் கல்யாண ராகம்
எண்ணங்கள் போராடும்
நான் இன்று காண்பதெல்லாம் பொன்னான நேரம்
எங்கெங்கும் தேனோடும்
இன்பத்தின் வண்ணங்கள் என்னைச் சீராட்ட
பொன்வண்டின் ரீங்காரம் கொஞ்சம் தாலாட்ட
பெண் மானே நாணம் ஏனம்மா

As one can see, there is a small word play with that "கல்யாண ராகம்" (typical TN country young girl thinking about marriage & the name of the boy being "Kalyanam" intertwined). Regardless, it is a situation of a single woman enjoying nature and having a carefree life at present.

The picturization is funny and amateurish - but the music and Sridevi save it Smile The superb strings in the second interlude - WOW! Of course, this is another #IR_Waltz 1-2-3 number!

Interesting to see two different YTs of the same song each enjoying millions of views.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPULo7pYhCI


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QkcKy4WlKg

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Post  Usha Sun Aug 22, 2021 6:56 pm

app,
 indha thalaipuku niraiya paatu manadhil vandhadhu... neenga solli mudiyga.. vittu ponadhai apparam naan solren.

non IR songs.......

very Old song. Kaatrinile varum Geetham . singer. MS Subulakshmi. film. Meera

vaanile mannile from Irulum Oliyum......

IR songs...

ipodhu aalaap raju.. chords..  Iravu Nilavu from Anjali

solai kuyile

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Post  app_engine Mon Aug 23, 2021 11:27 pm

#4 dEvan kOvil deepam onRu
(SJ, nAn pAdum pAdal)

We are mistaken if the idea of a single-happy-lady is only about dancing in rain and gardens or playing with flowers, animals and birds Laughing 

That would be too much of stereo-typing, right? 

Fortunately for us, IR's TFM is rich with other variants - as he had composed for 1000's of situations and circumstances Smile

Picking another SJ number, this one too #IR_waltz and a very popular hit number during my college days (and sounding very fresh after 3 decades). Here the girl is happy and not into the concerns of life yet (not even kAdhal, as per the setup). She is into arts and made stage-singing a happy career. Not for making a living but perhaps pursuing what she found interesting in life - definitely a luxury for most 80's girls but this one is gifted (i.e. until a boy follows her wherever she sings and finally asks her to be the life partner ; well, in the story there are events that make her life change forever).

An interesting movie (with sad twists and turns) but this song depicts her "happy-single" status very nicely. 

And I especially like the different words for the pallavi that comes between saraNams, with nice picturization by R Sundarrajan! (அன்பே நீயும் எங்கே வந்தாய்? யாரைக் கண்டு இங்கே நின்றாய்? - pAdal varigaL by Muthulingam)

தேவன் கோவில் தீபம் ஒன்று 
ராகம் பாடும் நேரம் இன்று 
கண்கள் ரெண்டும் காதல் சந்தம் சொன்னது
உள்ளம் உந்தன் வாசல் தேடி வந்தது 

பாவை நின்றேன் சோலை ஓரம்
நீயும் வந்தாய் மாலை நேரம்
பார்வை நான்கும் பேசும் ஜாலம்
பார்த்தால் போதும் வெள்ளம் மோதும்
காதல் தேவனே நீ என் ஜீவனே 
ஊஞ்சல் போலே எண்ணம் கோடி 
நெஞ்சில் ஆடும் உன்னை நாடி
கண்ணா நீயும் கேளாயோ?

அன்பே நீயும் எங்கே வந்தாய்? 
யாரைக் கண்டு இங்கே நின்றாய்?
உள்ளம் என்னும் மேடை உண்டு ஆட வா
கண்ணில் கோடி ராகம் கொண்டு பாட வா

வானும் காற்றும் உந்தன் பேரை
வாழ்வில் சொல்லும் மண்ணில் நாளை  
உன்னை எண்ணி ஏங்கும் பூவை
உந்தன் அன்பே என்றும் தேவை
நாளை ஊர்வலம் நாமும் காணுவோம்
காலம் கோடி ஆகும் போதும் 
காதல் கீதம் என்றும் வாழும்
கண்ணா நீயும் கேளாயோ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AEBKqTPW4c

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Post  app_engine Tue Aug 24, 2021 9:20 pm

#5 pAdaRiyEn padippaRiyEn
(KSC, sindhu bhairavi)


Continuing with the drift i.e. "not-simply-merry-making-dancing-around-yet-carefree-single-woman", an even more interesting song Wink

Some may get shocked and ask "no-no, how can someone with such a difficult past be happy" and I would like to give some reasons for picking this character and song :

- There is nothing called "perfect happiness" in the current world. That way, all the so-called "happy / carefree being single girl" characters that one can find in the movies or real world do have some kind of baggage
- For e.g. the girl in the intro song suffers from parents of limited means / selfish siblings who even steal her food leaving her hungry etc. Likewise the girl character in mounarAgam lives with a terrible flashback. Even the thimir pidichcha "oru poongAvanam" girl possibly suffers from parental neglect / lack of love.
- We're going with the "half-glass-full" approach, i.e. when introduced to us on screen with the particular song, how the girl is depicted
- Of course, the ground rules definitely call for "no ongoing romance / marriage / piLLai kutty / samaiyal / financial issues / major anxieties" and that way "single and carefree" Smile

So, we have Sindhu who can be brought into our thread - a bold single woman, happily going and challenging a famous classical singer on stage and jumping into the limelight! All the while not in any other kind of major difficulty or entanglements in life. (Despite the past that we come to know later in the movie).

Now, the song itself is a gem - another #IR_Waltz, this one by Chithra chEchi (today I found the interlude is a repeat but the fantastic ending compensates for anything that is otherwise lacking compared to a typical IR song).

IR got the pallavi from a folk song and that gives the nice, humble (and thus happy) disposition of the girl (பாடறியேன் படிப்பறியேன் ஏடறியேன் எழுத்தறியேன் தலக்கனமும் எனக்கு இல்ல).

At the same time, she has excellent understanding of the flawed society and makes fun of it (தலய ஆட்டும் புரியாத கூட்டம்).

While challenging the celebrity, she is tactful and appeals to his heart and reasons well (எண்ணியே பாரு எத்தன பேரு, தங்கமே நீயும் தமிழ்ப்பாட்டும் பாடு,  சொன்னது தப்பா? தப்பா?).

Finally, despite all her humility and appealing tone in most part of the song, she asserts her self confidence that is based on solid facts as "ராகத்தில் புதுசு என்னுதப்பா - அம்மியறச்சவ கும்மியடிச்சவ நாட்டுப்பொறத்துல சொன்னதப்பா" Smile

What a strong and lovely character of a woman that the filmmaker presents to us in this song!
(For now, don't worry about what happens afterwards in the movie Laughing )

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yRc4Ux7pgs



Vairamuthu penned (portions of) the famous song:

பாடறியேன் படிப்பறியேன் பள்ளிக்கூடந்தானறியேன்
ஏடறியேன் எழுத்தறியேன் எழுத்துவக நானறியேன்
ஏட்டுல எழுதவில்ல எழுதிவச்சுப் பழக்கமில்ல
எலக்கணம் படிக்கவில்ல தலக்கனமும் எனக்கு இல்ல

அர்த்தத்த விட்டுப்புட்டா அதுக்கொரு பாவமில்ல
பழகின பாஷையில படிப்பது பாவமில்ல
என்னமோ ராகம் என்னன்னமோ தாளம்
தலய ஆட்டும் புரியாத கூட்டம்
எல்லாமே சங்கீதந்தான் சத்தத்தில் பொறந்த சங்கதி தான்
சட்ஜமமென்பதும் தைவதமென்பதும் பஞ்சப்பரம்பரைக்கப்புறந்தான்

கவல ஏதுமில்ல ரசிக்கும் மேட்டுக்குடி
சேரிக்கும் சேரவேணும் அதுக்கும் பாட்டுப்படி
எண்ணியே பாரு எத்தன பேரு
தங்கமே நீயும் தமிழ்ப்பாட்டும் பாடு
சொன்னது தப்பா? தப்பா? (தப்பாதப்பா) ராகத்தில் புதுசு என்னுதப்பா
அம்மியறச்சவ கும்மியடிச்சவ நாட்டுப்பொறத்துல சொன்னதப்பா

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Post  app_engine Wed Aug 25, 2021 7:42 pm

நன்றி உஷாக்கா!

As a male, I may not be the best qualified person to blabber on this topic Laughing  

However, this is just another way of looking at IR songs & music - to enjoy! Hence, indulging in this territory - my opinions are mostly "observations" as an "outsider" Smile


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Post  app_engine Wed Aug 25, 2021 8:05 pm

#6 chinnakkuyil pAdum pAttu
(KSC, poovE poochchooda vA)

Like I mentioned in the previous post, every person who is seemingly the happiest - that others possibly envy as "having the best of the world" - is not truly, perfectly happy. 

There are possible causes of serious concern for most people in life (in this case, a debilitating - even life-threatening - illness that we come to know later in the movie). Regardless, when introduced to us in the movie, this girl character is "single and carefree" as depicted by the filmmaker!

Per my observation, even though Revathy had "OhO mEgam vandhadhO" / "vAn mEgam" kind of rain and merriment songs, majority of 80's TN girls / single women were more fancied after Nadhiya Laughing 

She seemed to get characters that picturized fashionable, strong, happy and carefree single girl - who seemed to enjoy the best of life! (While I will not feature non-IR songs in this thread anymore, it should be mentioned that 'panneeril nanaindha pookkaL mella chirikka' depicted the kind of life what every girl WANTED to have - I mean those days).  She was the craze of girls in 80's and they wanted to follow her fashions - the most amusing thing being "நதியா மொய்து கொண்டை" and I would have laughed many times making fun of it Laughing

Well, this song is a thakadhimi-thakajunu number, first of 4/4 kind, for our thread. A very famous song that we've already talked about in many other threads (including the streams-santoor thread). Phenomenal melody and sweet singing by chEchi who made it to the top in TFM with this song (and album). To this day, she is called "chinnakkuyil Chitra" and such is the popularity / impact of the song. 

As for the picturization goes, 100% fit to this thread - no love / romance / family - kind of baggage - single woman enjoying company of neighborhood kids with a lot of fun! 

Both the video and pAdal varigaL (by Vairamuthu) are thoroughly enjoyable! (எங்கும் அலைவேனே தன்னந்தனியா - கங்கை நதிக்கென்ன கட்டுத் தடையா)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtjKqzqwjQE



சின்னக்குயில் பாடும் பாட்டுக்கேக்குதா குக்குக் குக்குக் கூக்கூ
தம்பிகளே தங்கைகளே தேரில் என்னை ஏற்றுங்கள்
உல்லாசமாய் உற்சாகமாய்  ஊரைச்சுற்றிக் காட்டுங்கள்

எங்கும் அலைவேனே தன்னந்தனியா
கங்கை நதிக்கென்ன கட்டுத் தடையா
அட வானம் எங்கு போகும் அங்கு நானும் போவேனே
ஏப்பம் விடும் ஓடையை இப்போது தான் பார்க்கிறேன்
மைனாக்களின் பாஷையை இப்போது தான் கேட்கிறேன்
பிருந்தாவனம் இங்கே பார்த்தேனே 

ஆஹா இந்த பூமி புத்தம் புதுசு
பாசம் வந்ததாலே பொங்கும் மனசு
இனி வாசம் வீசும் பூவில் நானும் வாசம் செய்வேனே
தாவி எங்கும் ஓடினேன் தாயின் மடி தேடினேன்
பூவனங்கள் எங்கிலும் பூஜை செய்யப்போகிறேன்
என் சோலையில் நானும் பூவானேன்

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Post  app_engine Thu Aug 26, 2021 10:00 pm

#7 chinnappoo chinnappoo kaNNellAm vaNNappoo
(SJ, jappAnil kalyANarAman)


Since Radha has more on-screen presence for IR songs than most other actresses (like Revathy / Sridevi), wanted to host a "happily-single" song for her. Unfortunately, I could not do for "putham puthu kAlai" which should have been the best - BR had chopped it off from the movie.

When I looked around for an alternative, I was surprised that there are not many - as she got typecast in romantic roles most of the time (or masAlA stuff). I tossed "chakkara kattikku" from MTK because it is more of fancying a future marriage (which is somewhat opposite to the theme of this thread). May be we can have it as "appendix" in the end of thread but not in the initial posts.

That's when this song got played in one of my drives and I was wondering if this could be a good fit. When I saw the YT video of the song, it was not promising Embarassed because there is a kid with her. I was wondering if that is hers and she is acting as a mother or divorcee or something like that. (Never watched that movie). Now the painful part - I had to browse thru the movie, watching some scenes to understand the story - and finally decide "it is OK to host this song" Laughing

She is portraying an interesting character in this song - of a "restaurant waitress in Tokyo Japan, of Tamil origin" - who ends up babysitting the hero's child for a day Laughing Well, happy-carefree-single lady! I just watched portion of the movie prior to this song FF-ing most part (horrible and boring).

The song itself is interesting, with lines such as "என்னைப்போல் கன்னிப்பூ" - confirming her status and comparing her to the spring flowers. Interestingly, there's some philosophy there Wink  As observed here in NA (and also told in the movie about these Japanese flowers), those appear everywhere suddenly in spring and are gone within a week or so - max 10 days. The so called "iLamai" is like that - very brief and gone - so enjoy when one has it (likewise the status of "single and carefree" Laughing I'm sure no such girl is looking at this thread or posts - most IRF's, that too those who visit our forum, are possibly not "youththu" but having children or grandchildren).

Enjoy the superb 1-2-3 #IR_Waltz / pAdal varigaL by Vaali - in the fantastic SJ voice (video quality not so good):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCQ-bfFvAlI



சின்னப்பூ சின்னப்பூ கண்ணெல்லாம் வண்ணப்பூ
அம்மம்மா அம்மம்மா என்னைப்போல் கன்னிப்பூ
இளவேனில் காலம் இளமாலை நேரம்
இன்பத்தை அள்ளி இறைக்கும் சொர்க்கத்தின் அந்தப்புரம் இதுவோ?

பூவெல்லாம் மெளன பாஷைகள் பேச நான் என்ன சொல்ல ஹோ
நாளெல்லாம் அந்தி நேரத்தில் எந்தன் நெஞ்சத்தைக்கிள்ள ஹோ
ஏதோ ஏதேதோ எண்ணம் கூட உள்ளம் என் உள்ளம் ஊஞ்சல் ஆட
கோடை நாட்களில் காமன் பண்டிகை
காற்றும் பூவும்தான் காதல் பாட்டுப்பாடும் வசந்த விழா

மேகங்கள் புத்தன் கோயில்கள் தேடி ஊர்கோலம் செல்ல ஹோ
ராகங்கள் கட்சிக்கூட்டங்கள் பாடி வாழ்த்துக்கள் சொல்ல ஹோ
இன்பம் கொண்டாடும் மக்கள் இங்கே மண்ணில் உண்டான சொர்க்கம் இங்கே
நூறு நாடுகள் வாழும் மாந்தர்கள்
கூடும் நாளிலே நேசம் பாசம் யாவும் விளைந்திடுமோ

Audio version has another superb interlude and an additional stanza (possibly used later in the movie, I didn't watch after the song):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWpy53_h1u4



நூலாடை தொட்டுப் போராடும் காற்றே நீ கொஞ்சம் இங்கே நில்
நான் கூட வண்ணப்பூ மாலை சூடும் நாள் எந்த நாளோ சொல்
சின்னப்பெண் தேடும் மன்னன் யாரோ கன்னிப்பூச்சூடும் கண்ணன் யாரோ
நீலத்தாமரை நீரைத்தேடுது
பூவைப்போலவே பூவை நானும் வாடும் பருவமிது

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Post  BC Fri Aug 27, 2021 5:03 am

Childhood memories of this movie and its songs.  That prelude, to me, defines the word "exotic land".  SJ, as usual, nails it down.

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Post  Usha Fri Aug 27, 2021 6:09 pm

app_engine wrote:#7 chinnappoo chinnappoo kaNNellAm vaNNappoo
(SJ, jappAnil kalyANarAman)



e movie about these Japanese flowers), those appear everywhere suddenly in spring and are gone within a week or so - max 10 days. The so called "iLamai" is like that - very brief and gone - so enjoy when one has it (likewise the status of "single and carefree" Laughing I'm sure no such girl is looking at this thread or posts - most IRF's, that too those who visit our forum, are possibly not "youththu" but having children or grandchildren).

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Rajavin paatuku vayadhu agavillai... ipodhu paadum QFR....  and Rajavin Stage Showil pudhu singers....adhil theiryum... Rajavin isaiku... vayadhu agavillai endru.....

indha paatu endru illai. endha rajavin paatum.. sandhosha paatum.. kaeta nimidathil.....pazhaiya sandhoshamana ninaivugaludan..... ipodhu.....isaiyai kaetkum arivudan..... paatu manadhil sandhoshamaga otti koLgiradhu.. Thats all.......

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Post  app_engine Fri Aug 27, 2021 9:31 pm

#8 idhu oru nilAkkAlam
(SJ, tik tik tik)

One more thakadhimi-thakajunu aka 4/4 number for this thread.

A song which we've talked about quite a lot (actually I still owe a few posts on this song in the OCD thread ). By today's standards, neither the singing nor the picturization will be considered "மற்றது" but not that way when it arrived. A still photograph of the ladies in swimsuits with Kamal created a lot of noise when published in 1981 for the movie promos Laughing

Well, let us focus on the theme of the thread. Also, the discussion is not about all 3 ladies but only the "heroine" (just for convenience) - the role played by Madhavi. 

As presented in the movie, she is into a career of classical dance and also beauty pageants / fashion shows which were possibly for only 0.1% or less of the girls those days. Such is the privilege for this "poo malarndhida nadamidum pon mayil" girl. 

As seen in this song, life is all about keeping fit / maintaining the shape and practicing / performing the art. With no serious concerns or anxieties related to money / romance or family, she can be what we call "a perfect fit" for the title of this thread. And so, there's nothing surprising about the attitude of the girl as expressed in the pAdal varigaL:

இது ஒரு நிலாக்காலம் இரவுகள் கனாக்காணும்
ஆடை கூட பாரமாகும் பாரிஜாதம் ஈரமாகும்
இளமையே வசந்த வானம்! பறவையே வருகவே

பாவை கண்டாலே நிலவு நெளியாதோ
அழகைக் கண்டாலே அருவி நிமிராதோ
வண்டு வந்து உடைக்காத பூவும் நீயே
யாரும் வந்து நடக்காத சாலை நீயே.
உள்ளங்கையில் சொர்க்கம் வந்து உறங்கக் கண்டாளே

தங்க தேகங்கள் துள்ளி ஆடாதோ
ராஜ மேகங்கள் பூவைத் தூவாதோ
கண்ணாடி உனைக் கண்டு கண்கள் கூசும்
வானவில்லும் நகச்சாயம் வந்து பூசும்
பருவப்பூக்கள் புருவம் அசைத்தால் பூமி சுற்றாது

Every line by Vairamuthu reflects the pride the girl has on her body / appearance and also the enviable position / life she enjoys (well, at the moment).

Bharathiraja's picturization was definitely quite stylish for the time of release and it still does not look out of date Smile

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXg3Cl-37x4


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Post  ravinat Sun Aug 29, 2021 2:07 am

App,


  Dont want to steal your thunder. I was reminded of the Mullum Malarun song...



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Post  app_engine Mon Aug 30, 2021 8:43 pm

ravinat wrote:App,

 I was reminded of the Mullum Malarun song...


Smile
nanRi sir, for mentioning this song!

Actually, I considered it but was wondering if this girl is already "mentally locked" (as this song happens AFTER falling in love / Sarath Babu proposing her) and so should we showcase it right now...well, OTOH, this is a much better fit than "OhO mEgam vandhadhO" as the girl does not have any baggage and can be counted carefree!

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Post  app_engine Mon Aug 30, 2021 9:36 pm

#9 chik chik chA chittu chittukku
(KSC, mounam sammadham)


One more 4/4 for the thread - and the song itself starts with the counting of "1-2-3-4" being a gym / exercise song - not just for the girl but a group of girls Smile

First of all, let me post the pAdal varigaL here - by GA - which are very good, considering how difficult it is to write for such a complicated tune without compromising reasonable poetic standards. (This was not part of the 100 songs I picked for his thread, possibly either because the first two words turned me off or that I didn't even know this was by GA those days.)

Actually, the pAdal varigal could not be found on the net (with whatever standard search tricks I do)  A few lines that are available in one post on the hub is full of errors :
tfmpage post

The beautiful phrase the poet wrote as "ஆடிப்பாடி அழகெனது கூடிக்கூடி" is wrongly interpreted as "அழகனுடன் (மம்முட்டியா?) கூடிக் கூடி" rotfl - some appreciation of poetry Laughing

Well, here you have, the excellent poetry by Amar Singh, who probably struggled to come up with words for the mettu and thus inserted "கட்டும் மெட்டுக்கு" in the beginning of the song Smile

சிக் சிக் சா சிட்டு சிட்டுக்கு
சிக் சிக் சா கட்டும் மெட்டுக்கு
மேலும் மேலும் இன்பம் வரும் நாளைக்கு
தாளம் ராகம் தேடி வரும் வேளைக்கு

வாலைப் பருவமடி வளைந்தபடி வாடும் உருவமடி
நாளைக் கனவுகளில் தினம் தினமும் நீந்தும் இதயமடி
எத்திக்கும் சுற்றும் எண்ணங்கள் தித்திக்கும் கோடி வண்ணங்கள்
பட்டுப்பூ போலக் கன்னங்கள் பார்க்கட்டும் காதல் சின்னங்கள்
பாடிப்பாடித் திரை மறைவில் தேடித்தேடி
ஆடிப்பாடி அழகெனது கூடிக்கூடி

தேகம் கவியெழுதும்  அது தினமும் கேட்கும் புவி முழுதும்
மேகம் நடை பழகும் அதை ரசிக்கும் பூவும் முகம் மலரும்
அங்கத்தில் ஆடும் தங்கத்தில் சொந்தத்தில் தோன்றும் சொர்க்கத்தில்
என்றைக்கும் எங்கள் பக்கத்தில் இன்பங்கள் உண்டு மொத்தத்தில்
ஆடும் தேகம் ஆடி வரும் மோகம் மோகம்
ஆசை யாவும் புதியதொரு ராகம் ராகம்

I could hear the words clearly thanks to the better quality audio by #IR_Official_Yt:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjtqZjoZ29E


I don't have to explain too much about how this song fits into the theme of the thread! As per the movie story line, this is a "flash back" song in which the character played by Mammootty, a talented lawyer who is refusing to take up a case, looks at the picture of this girl in the news item (related to the case), recalls this song and changes his mind - to appeal and appear in court for the convict! Amala played the "gym-dancing-doctor-single-happy-woman" character whom the lawyer reminisces about!

She had been an excellent dancer and made "gym" popular for women in 80's and 90's. (I could not pick the wonderful "rOsAppoo Adi vandhadhu" song for her as that is a romance song with Prabhu and thus does not qualify for the thread - OTOH, this one is a perfect fit).

The music is fantastic (superb brass sections and exotic drum concoctions that only IR is capable of) and the on-screen stuff is not bad at all (actually, good for 1990 standards).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fN8LX3ia6tM


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Post  app_engine Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:54 pm

#10 kaNdEn engum poomagaL nAttiyam
(SJ, kAtRinilE varum geetham)


Going back to #IR_Waltz and also to 70's Smile

What a lovely, evergreen, haunting number this one is! (The album has a VJ version of this song also - but that one is not for a "single-carefree" lady and won't come in our thread).

Since I didn't know much about the movie's story or the song's situation, quickly browsed thru the youtube to confirm that this one is indeed a "carefree-happy-single" lady's song Smile This is one that sails across the mERkuththodarchchi malaichchAral - like a breeze - of a tribal girl and captures the attention of her father's boss who is travelling to the region for a vacation.

The video quality is horrible (whichever version one can get in the web, including the one inside the movie) - but the setting is definitely quite interesting (i.e. considering the time when it arrived):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNp1Yf4F1qY



I don't know much about the heroine - whose name is Kavitha - possibly never watched any of her movies, including this one Embarassed

Panju sir has penned the beautiful lines, that happen to include the catchy "காற்றினிலே வரும் கீதம்" borrowed from the previous generation classic!

கண்டேன் எங்கும் பூமகள் நாட்டியம்
காண்பதெல்லாமே அதிசயம் ஆனந்தம்
காற்றினிலே வரும் கீதம்

தொட்டுத்தொட்டுப் பேசும் தென்றல், தொட்டில் கட்டி ஆடும் உள்ளம்
காதலினாலே துள்ளுகின்ற பெண்மை இங்கே, அள்ளிக்கொள்ள மன்னன் எங்கே?
நினைத்தேனே அழைத்தேனே வருவாய் அன்பே என்று! இங்கே இன்று!
அதிசயம் ஆனந்தம் காற்றினிலே வரும் கீதம்

வனக்கிளியே ஏக்கம் ஏனோ, கருங்குயிலே மோகம் தானோ?
தூக்கமுமில்லை துவளுது முல்லை, தழுவிடத்தானே தவிக்குது கிள்ளை
பனி வாடை விலகாதோ நினைத்தால் சொர்க்கம் இங்கே கண்ணில் உண்டு!
அதிசயம் ஆனந்தம் காற்றினிலே வரும் கீதம்

கள்ளமில்லை கபடமில்லை காவலுக்கு யாருமில்லை
யார் வருவாரோ கனிகளும் பழுத்ததப்பா? கொடிதொட்டு மலர்ந்ததப்பா?
என் வீடு இதுதானே எங்கும் எந்தன் உள்ளம் சொந்தம் கொள்ளும்
அதிசயம் ஆனந்தம் காற்றினிலே வரும் கீதம்

While there is some yearning about the girl's future thalaivan (which was pretty much part of many sangam poems as well), the girl at present has no big anxieties about it but is happily enjoying the nature, being herself!

I need not talk much about IR's fantastic strings score for this song (and also the other accompaniments with flute and santoor) or the phenomenal singing by SJ. I believe they had to use some imagination and tricks those days to get the "overlap" in the end - with not much hi-tech available to create such effects easily - but the result was awesome as we used to simply love that portion!  (Personally I didn't get any eeriness but some others in those days fell for "mohini" tricks and such Laughing )

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Post  BC Wed Sep 01, 2021 3:27 pm

Is the debut song of IR "Annakili onna theduthae" eligible?

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Post  app_engine Wed Sep 01, 2021 4:30 pm

BC wrote:Is the debut song of IR "Annakili onna theduthae" eligible?

Probably - I don't recall the flow of the movie very well. I'll have to check it out. 

Thank you for reminding this classic!

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Post  Usha Wed Sep 01, 2021 7:10 pm

app,

kanden engum.. ungalin thalipuku azhagana paatu. indha madhiri paatuku ellam kavidhai varigal.
Raja gavanithu seidhu irukar.

indha madhiri paatu... andha padathin heroine.. avalin mood.. kadhaiyodu.. ipadi niraiya perfection irukum Rajavidam.
Rajavirku idhuvum oru azhagna neenda payanam dhan.naam koduthu vaithu irukirom. avvalavu dhan solla mudiyum.

indha paatu. Radio days. kaathirundhu.... paatu varum podhu kaetka vendum. ipodhu ipadi kidaithalum innum inimai adhigam dhan.


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Post  app_engine Wed Sep 01, 2021 10:18 pm

#11 AththAdi ammAdi thEn mottu thAn
(KSC, idhayathai thirudAdhE)

This song introduces a very happy single woman singing and dancing in rains. Interesting to see that Maniratnam was almost "under pressure" to have a song of this kind after he started the trend a few years before with mouna rAgam. 

Girija acted as this happy girl (who later in the story is identified to have a serious illness, much like poovE poochchooda vA). Nothing much happens on-screen during this song (i.e. by way of story or anything like that) - the simple merrymaking of a young girl in nature. I had seen another movie of her in Malayalam - vandhanam with Mohanlal, Priyadharshan movie and possibly a similar thuLLal song in that also.

Sweet #IR_Waltz - thuLLal nadai with his signature rhythm arrangements and racy melody - originally done for the Telugu movie "geethAnjali". Though a "dubbing" song, Vaali had no burden of "lip sync" business - as this song is mostly don't care (almost montage kind) song and had to simply write a "மெட்டுக்குப்பாட்டு". Almost all lyricists who worked with IR should have been masters in this method anyways Smile

Here are the lines - typical Vaali style, some generic word play / some purANA references Wink

ஆத்தாடியம்மாடி தேன் மொட்டுத்தான்
கூத்தாடத் தூறல்கள் நீர்விட்டுத்தான்
உருகுதோ மருகுதோ
குழந்தை மனமும் குறும்புத்தனமும் இனிமையோ
கொடியிலே அரும்புதான்
குளிரும் மழையில் நனையும் பொழுது
சொல்லம்மா சொல்லம்மா வெட்கத்திலே
ஏதேதோ வந்தாச்சோ எண்ணத்திலே

வானமும் வையமும் கரங்களை இணைப்பதே மழையில்தான்
செடிகளும் மலர்களும் ஈரமாய் இருப்பதே அழகுதான்
மழையின் சாரலும் கிள்ளாமல் கிள்ளவும்
அழகும் ஆசையும் ஆடாமல் ஆடவும்
துள்ளுகின்ற உள்ளமென்ன தத்தளிக்கும் மேனியென்ன
வஞ்சி எந்தன் கண்கள் கண்ட தேவலோகம் பூமிதான்

என்னவோ எண்ணியே இளையவள் இதயமே ததும்புதா
சிறுசிறு மழைத்துளி சிதறிட சபலம்தான் அரும்புதா
வானதேவனே சல்லாபம் செய்திட
வாயுதேவனே முத்தாட வந்திட
நீரு பூத்த கூந்தலோடு ஊதக்காற்று தழுவும்போது
துள்ளும் பெண்ணின் உள்ளம் நூறு கவிதை சொல்லும் ஓஹொஹோ

The visuals were quite popular when arrived (I saw the movie sometime in 1990 and it was so-so) :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQGxKmgjEx4


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