Non-IR misra chApu (7 beat cycle) songs in TFM - #38 நேத்து வரைக்கும் வாழ்க்கைப்பாடம்
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Non-IR misra chApu (7 beat cycle) songs in TFM - #38 நேத்து வரைக்கும் வாழ்க்கைப்பாடம்
We're running a thread in the IR-everything forum listing / cataloging ALL the Ezhadi suzhaRchi songs that IR had done.
I want to also find out how many such songs have OTHER MDs done in TFM.
Hope this thread will help us identify such ones. (I'm curious to know the overall count in TFM)...
I want to also find out how many such songs have OTHER MDs done in TFM.
Hope this thread will help us identify such ones. (I'm curious to know the overall count in TFM)...
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#1 ammAdi ammAdi nerungi oru tharam pArkka vA
அம்மாடி அம்மாடி நெருங்கி ஒரு தரம் பார்க்க வா
(Movie - dEsingu rAjA. MD - Imman)
What lovely singing by Shreya Ghosal!
Also, decent work by D Imman!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6DRyFe5ib8
அம்மாடி அம்மாடி நெருங்கி ஒரு தரம் பார்க்க வா
(Movie - dEsingu rAjA. MD - Imman)
What lovely singing by Shreya Ghosal!
Also, decent work by D Imman!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6DRyFe5ib8
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2. This piece of lovely music from Maragadhamani in Azhagan.
The Ghatam that begins the song gives the rhythm very clearly
3. Not FM but ARR's Coke Studio song, Ennile Maha Oliyo, is based on Misra Chaapu.
The Ghatam that begins the song gives the rhythm very clearly
3. Not FM but ARR's Coke Studio song, Ennile Maha Oliyo, is based on Misra Chaapu.
Re: Non-IR misra chApu (7 beat cycle) songs in TFM - #38 நேத்து வரைக்கும் வாழ்க்கைப்பாடம்
If one goes by msvtimes.com, there may not be any MSV number in this nadai
http://www.msvtimes.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=854&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
It is really funny to see one fellow doing a "sappaikkattu" in page 2 (as to why MSV didn't have to do these nadai's)
As usual, that eccentric Vaidy guy, who could not contribute anything musically, says other's music is "kaNda kaNda" nadai (means useless / formless) unlike the sophisticated MSV
While acknowledging that those fellows in that forum are MSV-experts, we may still be able to catch some MSV song in misra chAppu ourselves...in case that happens, please don't forget to record in this thread!
http://www.msvtimes.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=854&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
It is really funny to see one fellow doing a "sappaikkattu" in page 2 (as to why MSV didn't have to do these nadai's)
As usual, that eccentric Vaidy guy, who could not contribute anything musically, says other's music is "kaNda kaNda" nadai (means useless / formless) unlike the sophisticated MSV
While acknowledging that those fellows in that forum are MSV-experts, we may still be able to catch some MSV song in misra chAppu ourselves...in case that happens, please don't forget to record in this thread!
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Venkkiram sir has posted a twitlonger of IR's misragathi songs and tweeter "Romba Mukkiyam" has replied with this sweet evergreen non-IR number
This used to be regularly on radio in 70's & from the BM movie azhiyAdha kOlangaL (Pratap Pothen / Shobha).
Sung by JC / PS and music Salilda - sweet song and the nadai is quite unmistakable
#4 poovaNNam pOla nenjam
பூவண்ணம் போல நெஞ்சம்
(Movie - azhiyAdha kOlangaL, MD - Salil Chowdhury)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuWKYZZPXc4
This used to be regularly on radio in 70's & from the BM movie azhiyAdha kOlangaL (Pratap Pothen / Shobha).
Sung by JC / PS and music Salilda - sweet song and the nadai is quite unmistakable
#4 poovaNNam pOla nenjam
பூவண்ணம் போல நெஞ்சம்
(Movie - azhiyAdha kOlangaL, MD - Salil Chowdhury)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuWKYZZPXc4
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Same twitter has also quoted this song from Kamal's uththama villan for misra nadai.
Thus made me listen to the Ghibran number for the first time
Personally, I would rate this song "boring" (despite the 7 beat cycle)
The only +ve factor, IMHO, is Kamal's singing and a couple of smart lines!
#5 sAgA varam pOl sOgam uNdO
சாகாவரம் போல் சோகம் உண்டோ கேளாய் மன்னா
(Movie - Uththama villan, MD - Ghibran)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWMYc8JENPQ
Thus made me listen to the Ghibran number for the first time
Personally, I would rate this song "boring" (despite the 7 beat cycle)
The only +ve factor, IMHO, is Kamal's singing and a couple of smart lines!
#5 sAgA varam pOl sOgam uNdO
சாகாவரம் போல் சோகம் உண்டோ கேளாய் மன்னா
(Movie - Uththama villan, MD - Ghibran)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWMYc8JENPQ
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Another song from the twitlonger of Venkkiram sir, this one from the "benefit match" many TF heroes played for YGM
#6 vAnil vAzhum dEvadhai
வானில் வாழும் தேவதை என் நேரில் வந்தாளோ
(movie - uruvangaL mARalAm, MD - S V Ramanan, brother of "abaswaram" Ramji)
There's another song from this movie that was a bigger hit (i.e. outside of AIR) - kAmanukkuk kAman - possibly because of KH
This one is a neat misra nadai song in the enjoyable SPB voice (with VJ the co-singer)...the non-percussion portion in the end of saraNam was / is an irritant to me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7MshdTbMmc
#6 vAnil vAzhum dEvadhai
வானில் வாழும் தேவதை என் நேரில் வந்தாளோ
(movie - uruvangaL mARalAm, MD - S V Ramanan, brother of "abaswaram" Ramji)
There's another song from this movie that was a bigger hit (i.e. outside of AIR) - kAmanukkuk kAman - possibly because of KH
This one is a neat misra nadai song in the enjoyable SPB voice (with VJ the co-singer)...the non-percussion portion in the end of saraNam was / is an irritant to me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7MshdTbMmc
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#7 thErOttam Anandha sheNbagappoovAttam
தேரோட்டம் ஆனந்த செண்பகப்பூவாட்டம்
(movie - noolvEli, MD - MSV)
OK, our fellow forum member counterpoint has something that MSV forum fellows themselves could not easily spot
MSV song in misra nadai :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0XetBorpMg
தேரோட்டம் ஆனந்த செண்பகப்பூவாட்டம்
(movie - noolvEli, MD - MSV)
OK, our fellow forum member counterpoint has something that MSV forum fellows themselves could not easily spot
MSV song in misra nadai :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0XetBorpMg
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#8 muththaiththaru
முத்தைத் தரு
(Movie - aruNagiri nAdhar, MD's - G Ramanathan & T R Pappa)
Famous song in misra chApu! I got this reference from one of the youtube comments for an #IR_misrA song
TMS not only sang but also acted on-screen for this popular number.
It is interesting to see two MD's in the titles. Per this article , TMS has told that it was T R Pappa's tune
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJI5hgdvsMg
முத்தைத் தரு
(Movie - aruNagiri nAdhar, MD's - G Ramanathan & T R Pappa)
Famous song in misra chApu! I got this reference from one of the youtube comments for an #IR_misrA song
TMS not only sang but also acted on-screen for this popular number.
It is interesting to see two MD's in the titles. Per this article , TMS has told that it was T R Pappa's tune
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJI5hgdvsMg
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There are 3 ARR songs that Twitter romba mukyam has sent
All three are typical slow-ARR kinds that are not my cup of tea and though I've heard them somewhere, never paid serious attention
Listened to each of them yesterday but unfortunately, I cannot go beyond a minute or so purely due to "my taste" issues with this kind of music - so it was purely a technical exercise of counting the # of beats in a cycle and confirming it is the right song that RR has tweeted
#9 kanavA illai kAtRA
கனவா இல்லை காற்றா
(movie - ratchagan, MD-ARR)
#10 thenRalE thenRalE
தென்றலே தென்றலே
(movie- kAdhal dEsam, MD - ARR)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0e8cQTqfqGM
#11 azhagu nilavE
அழகு நிலவே
(movie - pavithrA, MD - ARR)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERyITybz4OI
All three are typical slow-ARR kinds that are not my cup of tea and though I've heard them somewhere, never paid serious attention
Listened to each of them yesterday but unfortunately, I cannot go beyond a minute or so purely due to "my taste" issues with this kind of music - so it was purely a technical exercise of counting the # of beats in a cycle and confirming it is the right song that RR has tweeted
#9 kanavA illai kAtRA
கனவா இல்லை காற்றா
(movie - ratchagan, MD-ARR)
#10 thenRalE thenRalE
தென்றலே தென்றலே
(movie- kAdhal dEsam, MD - ARR)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0e8cQTqfqGM
#11 azhagu nilavE
அழகு நிலவே
(movie - pavithrA, MD - ARR)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERyITybz4OI
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Hi app_engine, I think in terms of numbers MSV might not have had many, maybe very few, in misra chaapu, maybe thats why they missed out.
off the top of my head:
the popular sedhi ketto by V.Kumar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8PFSrI_hrM
vaarai en thozhiye-arasiyal-vidyasagar- one of my favourites
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUwVH-xQwjI
in maasilave nilave num from Ambikapathy by GR, the last para vaanam enge is in misra chaapu.
On top of a ragamaalika this was a thaaLamaalika as well, and a popular one at that! GR was truly a pioneer.
off the top of my head:
the popular sedhi ketto by V.Kumar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8PFSrI_hrM
vaarai en thozhiye-arasiyal-vidyasagar- one of my favourites
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUwVH-xQwjI
in maasilave nilave num from Ambikapathy by GR, the last para vaanam enge is in misra chaapu.
On top of a ragamaalika this was a thaaLamaalika as well, and a popular one at that! GR was truly a pioneer.
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Good ones, counterpoint!
Documenting here in the usual format :
#12 sEdhi kEttO sEdhi kEttO
சேதி கேட்டோ சேதி கேட்டோ
(Movie - edhir neechchal, MD - V Kumar)
That half-Malayalam / half-Thamizh song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8PFSrI_hrM
#13 vArAy en thOzhiyE
வாராய் என் தோழியே
(Movie - arasiyal, MD - Vidyasagar)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUwVH-xQwjI
#14 mAsilA nilavE
மாசிலா நிலவே
இறுதிப்பகுதி :
வேணு கானம் தென்றலோடு சேர்ந்த பின்னாலே
கானம் வேறு காற்று வேறாய்க் கேட்பதே இல்லை
இனி நானும் வேறில்லை
(Movie - ambikApathi, MD - G Ramanathan)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eo1kFJ5fA3g
Documenting here in the usual format :
#12 sEdhi kEttO sEdhi kEttO
சேதி கேட்டோ சேதி கேட்டோ
(Movie - edhir neechchal, MD - V Kumar)
That half-Malayalam / half-Thamizh song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8PFSrI_hrM
#13 vArAy en thOzhiyE
வாராய் என் தோழியே
(Movie - arasiyal, MD - Vidyasagar)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUwVH-xQwjI
#14 mAsilA nilavE
மாசிலா நிலவே
இறுதிப்பகுதி :
வேணு கானம் தென்றலோடு சேர்ந்த பின்னாலே
கானம் வேறு காற்று வேறாய்க் கேட்பதே இல்லை
இனி நானும் வேறில்லை
(Movie - ambikApathi, MD - G Ramanathan)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eo1kFJ5fA3g
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from the same azhagan another song, a personal favourite by SPB, also in 7/8
Mazhayum neeye
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kxmhthao1Uo
Maragadhamani was in some form, in this soundtrack
another radio favourite, ponne bhoomiyadi by Shyam, classic 7/8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rfli7_pHmE
Mazhayum neeye
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kxmhthao1Uo
Maragadhamani was in some form, in this soundtrack
another radio favourite, ponne bhoomiyadi by Shyam, classic 7/8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rfli7_pHmE
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From "vedham pudhifhu", MD : Devendran who was dangerously
in IR mould, "mandiram sonnEn vandhu vidu" song.
in IR mould, "mandiram sonnEn vandhu vidu" song.
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http://newdhool.blogspot.in/2016/06/vasanthagal-varum-munbe-from-lalitha.html?m=1
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Vasanthangal varum munbe msv
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Thenral oru thalam thandhadhu in the lines of vayyari godaramma by gangai amaran.
Anangan angajan from kanlatchi by kunnakudi
Anangan angajan from kanlatchi by kunnakudi
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naarayanan wrote:Anangan angajan from kanlatchi by kunnakudi
anangan angajan main pallavi 3/4 thAnE? (thakita-thakita)...and in the last "percussion only" part, it switches to 4/4 (thakadhimi-thakajunu)
தவறு என்றால் மன்னிக்கவும்.
Here is the youtube link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4sv0tVo7KU
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naarayanan wrote:http://newdhool.blogspot.in/2016/06/vasanthagal-varum-munbe-from-lalitha.html?m=1
nanRi for pointing out this number & also informing of the new dhool
Interestingly, Saravanan sir places the youtube of 'mErA jeevan kOrA kAgaz' song from the original movie, which is again misra chApu
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OK, let me do listing of these treats in the thread format
#15 mazhaiyum neeyE
மழையும் நீயே
(Movie - azhagan, MD - Maragathamani)
I have not heard this song before - sweet number. (Another Banupriya - misra nadai combo)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kxmhthao1Uo
#16 ponnE bhoomiyadi
பொன்னே பூமியடி
(Movie - manidharil iththanai niRangaLA MD - Shyam)
As mentioned by counterpoint, for me too a favorite from radio days!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rfli7_pHmE
#17 mandhiram sonnEn vandhu vidu
மந்திரம் சொன்னேன் வந்து விடு
(Movie - vEdham pudhidhu, MD-Devendran)
Bharathi Raja's first movie without IR - and the album sounded a lot like IR (and often attributed to him by people on internet)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QSAeR6eTqA
For some visuals, please go here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ce7eUKONfo0
#18 vasanthangaL varum munbE
வசந்தங்கள் வரும் முன்பே மழை வந்ததே
(Movie - Lalitha, MD & Singer - MSV)
Courtesy Naarayanan sir & new dhool
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wx9_jdbttrg
#15 mazhaiyum neeyE
மழையும் நீயே
(Movie - azhagan, MD - Maragathamani)
I have not heard this song before - sweet number. (Another Banupriya - misra nadai combo)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kxmhthao1Uo
#16 ponnE bhoomiyadi
பொன்னே பூமியடி
(Movie - manidharil iththanai niRangaLA MD - Shyam)
As mentioned by counterpoint, for me too a favorite from radio days!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rfli7_pHmE
#17 mandhiram sonnEn vandhu vidu
மந்திரம் சொன்னேன் வந்து விடு
(Movie - vEdham pudhidhu, MD-Devendran)
Bharathi Raja's first movie without IR - and the album sounded a lot like IR (and often attributed to him by people on internet)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QSAeR6eTqA
For some visuals, please go here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ce7eUKONfo0
#18 vasanthangaL varum munbE
வசந்தங்கள் வரும் முன்பே மழை வந்ததே
(Movie - Lalitha, MD & Singer - MSV)
Courtesy Naarayanan sir & new dhool
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wx9_jdbttrg
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Re: Non-IR misra chApu (7 beat cycle) songs in TFM - #38 நேத்து வரைக்கும் வாழ்க்கைப்பாடம்
it is a little complicated.. it is chatusra jathi misra gathi eka thalam..app_engine wrote:naarayanan wrote:Anangan angajan from kanlatchi by kunnakudi
anangan angajan main pallavi 3/4 thAnE? (thakita-thakita)...and in the last "percussion only" part, it switches to 4/4 (thakadhimi-thakajunu)
தவறு என்றால் மன்னிக்கவும்.
Here is the youtube link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4sv0tVo7KU
it is not misra chapu.. but a pattern which involves that syncopation.. interestingly this song does not have the words falling into that pattern of thakida thaka dhimi but the overall talam is in misram..
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Re: Non-IR misra chApu (7 beat cycle) songs in TFM - #38 நேத்து வரைக்கும் வாழ்க்கைப்பாடம்
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdreaYDL20I
thenral oru thalam sonnadhu
thenral oru thalam sonnadhu
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Re: Non-IR misra chApu (7 beat cycle) songs in TFM - #38 நேத்து வரைக்கும் வாழ்க்கைப்பாடம்
in fact Devendran openly said in an interview that he 'maanaseegamaga' prayed to raja before starting composing for that movie. and the result we all know.
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Re: Non-IR misra chApu (7 beat cycle) songs in TFM - #38 நேத்து வரைக்கும் வாழ்க்கைப்பாடம்
maasila nilave is in a raga-tala-malika.. each stanza in a different raga and tala.
and many kishore songs are in misram in hindi...
tere bindiya, tere mere milan - abhimaan comes to my mind immediately
and many kishore songs are in misram in hindi...
tere bindiya, tere mere milan - abhimaan comes to my mind immediately
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Re: Non-IR misra chApu (7 beat cycle) songs in TFM - #38 நேத்து வரைக்கும் வாழ்க்கைப்பாடம்
Narayana,
Thanks for Vasanthangal varum munnae......
Thanks for Vasanthangal varum munnae......
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