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In all this, I am intrigued Dhoni has been treated with kid gloves by media and fans.
He is so hand in glove with Srinivasan. Accepting favours from him
His Rhiti Sports team mates routinely find way into india team on te basis of lukewarm performances

People accuse N Srinivasan of championing CSK players into India team. In truth, only those CSK players associated with Rhiti sports make it to India team. Non associated ones like Abhinav Mukund even get kicked out of CSK

Is only N seenu to blame for this? Isnt Dhonis role here worth even probing or questioning by media?

I hope the truth comes out one day

^even Mumbai police is reluctant to bring Arun Pandey to book even after its been abundantly clear that Guru's contact to Vindoo was through him http://tehelka.com/vindoo-introduced-to-meiyappan-by-a-close-friend-of-dhonipolice-sources/

going by this http://businesstoday.intoday.in/story/celebrity-marketing-cricketer-ms-dhoni-endorsing-brands/1/193100.html
Arun Pandey was with T series/D-company so more reasons to suspect his hand in betting/fixing. with Guru's arrest/Saharasri blatantly drumming support for Shashank Manohar seems Srinivasan has somehow rubbed the Ambanis the wrong way. anyways after Sept. elections Dhoni will quit IC and be donning Reliance colours.

Camaan Australia
 

Harris to Bresnan, [b class="commsImportant" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 102); font-weight: bold;"]OUT[/b], length ball, hint of movement away and Bresnan nicks off to the first ball of the morning!
	TT Bresnan c †Haddin b Harris 7 (29b 1x4 0x6) SR: 24.13

So much of things happeninig w.r.t DRS. Plum ennanga silent?

Welcome back Sridhar. I am also not too happy with the way cricket is being played recently, especially the current Ashes. It's not about DRS alone, it is about the people who use that. They make some horrible mistakes even after using DRS, prime examples being Khawaja and Peitersen's dismissals. Lot to be talked about the recent ICC rules on bad light. Too much controversies, still Aus. team was also partially responsible for not choosing reviews at the right time. That last 1/2 hour (on Sunday if played) could have worked in Aus. favor, but luck also didn't favor them this time. That 14 runs defeat of first test match is making a huge difference.

Thus far it has been a galeej series wrt quality of cricket, all the talk of DRS only accentuates it.
In hindsight BCCI's move to produce the live feed seems to be a masterstroke, With all the DRS mess expect ECB/CA to follow suit.


If and when OZ bowlers throw in the towel, can see this series being as exciting as Frank Worrell Trophy. 
Kiwis were competitive with the bat/ball against Eng may be CA should widen the net and pouch talents from their padosi or we can trade in our katillam kaalais Zol/Baba for their Sandhu/Cummins

 

galeej end to a galeej series 

http://www.theage.com.au/sport/cricket/england-players-urinate-on-the-oval-20130826-2sl43.html

Wizzy wrote:galeej end to a galeej series 

http://www.theage.com.au/sport/cricket/england-players-urinate-on-the-oval-20130826-2sl43.html

Australia ku moothara sandhu adiyE dhaan.

Seenu maama in retaliation mode, first it was Chapelli now its the turn of Sanju Manju, only if he could extend the courtesy to Shastrival/Sunny  
 

Wiz I am thinking Baba Appu will reap the harvest of all this as just when he is good enough to play for India, mAma will lose power and all the Appu will be applied on TN players as retaliation

^why go that far, Ash is reaping it, before he wanes completely and gets replaced by 'latchia' spinner from Jalandhar, Appu should look to get a beer gut so we have yet another smart/thinking/unfit offie from south  though his bro Indrajith who is touted as a better bat got some serious competition coming his way.

Neenga innum cricketlAm follow pandreengla? After 2nd edition of IPL, I haven't watched a full match - test, ODI or tondy-tondy and not even a half-match or highlights in the last 2 years. Was a theevra test cricket rasigan once upon a time - waking up at 4 am to catch India down under match level...

perusa follow pandradhilla fring. Twitterla epdiyum latest cricket news vndhurum so up to date on results etc. But I follow Ranji Trophy and Domestic Cricket closely.

Gus Fring, cricket ennaku oru social obligation loop, still got friends who only talk cricket,forgoing cricket will be forgoing them.

Kohls been compared to King Viv by Carib fans  

http://caribbeancricket.com/topic/1069364

plum wrote:perusa follow pandradhilla fring. Twitterla epdiyum latest cricket news vndhurum so up to date on results etc. But I follow Ranji Trophy and Domestic Cricket closely.

Interesting that you follow domestic cricket. I have always been clueless on that front. 

IPL just completely ruined it for me. The whole idea behind it and the way people fall for the hype, masala and marketing - cheerleaders, the obnoxious DLF maximums etc eventually drove me nuts. I can't believe any real cricket fan actually enjoys that shit when it is so obvious that neither the players or the commentators take it seriously. The retirements of the Aussie greats, Laxman and Dravid eventually put me off cricket completely...

Wizzy wrote:Gus Fring, cricket ennaku oru social obligation loop, still got friends who only talk cricket,forgoing cricket will be forgoing them.

Kohls been compared to King Viv by Carib fans  

http://caribbeancricket.com/topic/1069364

Puriyudhu...due to social obligation I went for the IPL final n 2011. Felt stupid and embarrassed for several days afterwards.
Andha Carribean sitela mukkavasi comment pandra payaluga namma payaluganu oru feeling  . Idhe vela, ooru oorA, blog blogA poi validation theda vendithu..

Kids haven't watched 189*.  No ODI batsman has outdone 189* to date.  Forget Kohli, even Tendulkar never played an innings like that though he has overall records to surpass Richards.  And Richards struck a 56 ball century in a TEST match for chrissake  ; even such a wonderful batsman like Gilchrist couldn't beat that though he got close.  

Why can't people at least wait for Kohli to accumulate more achievements (there's no doubt he's very talented)?  Why does everybody have to be born a Mahler/Mozart/Sobers/Richards?

I used to follow cricket deeply and even wrote regularly on it.  But I think some part of the love died the day Warney hyper enthusiastically called a Yusuf Pathan IPL slog special the best innings he had ever seen.   Many sports are commercialised now but cricket has sold even its legacy and history at the temple of commerce.  I still write once in a while, catch up with a few games every now and then but the obsession is gone.  More the better, it's not that important imo unless you play it yourself at some respectable level.

crimson king wrote:Kids haven't watched 189*.  No ODI batsman has outdone 189* to date.  Forget Kohli, even Tendulkar never played an innings like that though he has overall records to surpass Richards.  And Richards struck a 56 ball century in a TEST match for chrissake  ; even such a wonderful batsman like Gilchrist couldn't beat that though he got close.  

Why can't people at least wait for Kohli to accumulate more achievements (there's no doubt he's very talented)?  Why does everybody have to be born a Mahler/Mozart/Sobers/Richards?

I used to follow cricket deeply and even wrote regularly on it.  But I think some part of the love died the day Warney hyper enthusiastically called a Yusuf Pathan IPL slog special the best innings he had ever seen.   Many sports are commercialised now but cricket has sold even its legacy and history at the temple of commerce.  I still write once in a while, catch up with a few games every now and then but the obsession is gone.  More the better, it's not that important imo unless you play it yourself at some respectable level.

 Really?? Maybe it's reasonable to assume he meant T20 though, right?


On IPL, I have to paraphrase what you said in the other thread on 'Waeld peace music'.
"Never in the history of the sport has so much cricket amounted to so little impact  ". Also more than the cricket, it is the nauseating coverage given to this farce of a tournament by 24/7 media hawks that made me boycott the whole damn sport. 

And comparison with Viv Richards is a no-brainer. Let Kohli smash Dale Steyn or James Anderson all over the park consistently on bouncy pitches in a 4 or 5 match AWAY test series. Then maybe we can start with the comparisons. Btw, people say Viv was not very good against spin, particularly the Indian quartet - obviously, having only watched highlights and not watched him bat continuously over a period of a few sessions, it is hard for me to to judge. What do you guys think?

Warney:  I will reproduce the quote that made me feel like punching him in the face.  

"I have played first class cricket for 21 years and Sachin Tendulkar has been the best batsman I have bowled to. I have seen him thrashing pace and spin alike as well as Brian Lara but today's innings by Yusuf is the best I have seen," gushed Warne after his team nearly won against Tendulkar's MI after chasing an imposing total of 212 for 6.


  



Er, how many pegs did he tank before he said that? It did not singlehandedly contribute to my disenchantment with cricket but it did add up, along with the desperation of former cricketers like Manjrekar to make people accept IPL (or Harsha Bhogle's signature changing to "Writes on IPL and other cricket").   

As for Viv, he launched himself with a 192 at Delhi against Prasanna, Bedi and Venkataraghavan.    It is said he was not so comfortable playing Chandra and how things would have transpired had he played him regularly we don't know (because World Series intervened and after normalisation the quartet was gone).  But he did hit three centuries and a half century against India (including Bedi, Prasanna and Chandra) in the 1976 series in WI.   From whatever archival footage I have seen of his, I thought he used his feet very well against spin.  Not like Thala Gayle groping around from the crease..he danced down the pitch beautifully and lofted the ball out of the ground.  I think overall, like Lara or Tendulkar, he had no significant weaknesses.  But he combined it with such irreverent audacity and unconventional shotmaking - more than just a great player, he was an iconoclast, a groundbreaking batsman.

Why can't people at least wait for Kohli to accumulate more achievements (there's no doubt he's very talented)?  Why does everybody have to be born a Mahler/Mozart/Sobers/Richards?

And comparison with Viv Richards is a no-brainer. Let Kohli smash Dale Steyn or James Anderson all over the park consistently on bouncy pitches in a 4 or 5 match AWAY test series

Why go that far, Kohls couldn't put bat to ball against Junaid during India-pak 2012 odi series, Junaid was literally toying with him @ Chepauk.


CK, Warnie was/is on a hyperbole after his retirement, his ability to big up IPL stars and only for them to fall flat on their faces
is well documented, latest addition to this lore is Faulkner and Hussain bhai had gala time in squeezing Warnie on the same.

Mike Selvey on Pathan's flogerama

Yet for recent public consumption Warne reckons that a brief flogerama in a domestic T20 competition, on a dinky ground, against Ryan McLaren, Rajagopal Satish, Ali Murtaza and Sanath Jayasuriya knocks them into a cocked hat? He knows it is rubbish, really, which makes it all the worse. Perhaps I am too sensitive, but I find it offensive: in saying such things, whatever his motive, Warne is offering up an insult to a game that he once graced and made him the undisputable legend he is. It is not even funny.

Wizzy wrote:

 Perhaps I am too sensitive, but I find it offensive: in saying such things, whatever his motive, Warne is offering up an insult to a game that he once graced and made him the undisputable legend he is. It is not even funny.

My thoughts exactly.  Warne is one of my favourite cricketers but this was the pits....irresponsible stuff.   But he is not alone, he just blabbered it in an obvious way.  Ian Chappell hailed Warner as the next Richards or Sobers (which I forget, couldn't care to remember!).   This kind of hyperbole based on domestic T20 achievements is all over the place.  Would be glad if it goes bust one fine day and these venerated former cricketers are suddenly unable to generate all this wealth they are craving for.  That would be exactly what they deserve for wantonly destroying the heritage of cricket just for the sake of a few bucks.

Is this any different from Bharathiraja comparing GVP to IR or Ani fans comparing him to ARR? LOL. Similar things happening on all fronts..

As George Orwell so rightly observed, history is meant to be erased and re-written.

Although I liked Mudhal Mariyadhai, I never had any attachment to Bharathiraja's work.  Warne is different.  As I said, it is not that I don't follow cricket anymore, but the attachment is gone.  We know cricketers play for money but right now they have made it so obvious that it seems ridiculous for us spectators to invest emotionally in it.

crimson king wrote:Although I liked Mudhal Mariyadhai, I never had any attachment to Bharathiraja's work.  Warne is different.  As I said, it is not that I don't follow cricket anymore, but the attachment is gone.  We know cricketers play for money but right now they have made it so obvious that it seems ridiculous for us spectators to invest emotionally in it.

Absolutely. It is so ridiculous and naive for CSK fans (or even national teams, now that the players' motivations are quite clear) to be so passionate about their teams. Also, people make absurd comparisons to the EPL or UEFA champions league.  Duh, to state the obvious, the football they play in the EPL is the real deal, often at a higher skill level than intl football and often more . Yes, the players may have no atttachment to their clubs, but at least the game they play is not some ludicrous dumbed down version of the sport. A sequence of passes or goal n a UEFA final can to some extent justifiably be called the 'greatest ever', but an IPL innings??