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Viswam Nataraj ( @CMDViswamsGroup ) was surprised to see a GA-KJY song from 70's that I posted today on twitter.
And he asked a question " அப்பவே அமர் இசையமைச்சிருக்காரா".
Such is the pathetic condition of GA's wikipedia page (which I've commented about years ago when documenting 100 hand-picked songs where GA wrote lyrics for IR). It has not become any better even now.
Let me catalog some of his works as MD in TFM. (Regardless of whether the songs / albums were popular or not).
And he asked a question " அப்பவே அமர் இசையமைச்சிருக்காரா".
Such is the pathetic condition of GA's wikipedia page (which I've commented about years ago when documenting 100 hand-picked songs where GA wrote lyrics for IR). It has not become any better even now.
Let me catalog some of his works as MD in TFM. (Regardless of whether the songs / albums were popular or not).
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Re: Gangai Amaran as music director
His first album that got released as a LP record was "malargaLilE avaL malligai" IIRC.
It was in 1978.
I've tweeted about all those songs today and let me capture them here as the first set of songs for this thread
1978-ல் அவர் இசையமைத்த "மலர்களிலே அவள் மல்லிகை" இசைத்தட்டு எங்கள் ஊர் டீக்கடையில் ஒலித்தது - இலங்கை வானொலியிலும்.
(படம் வெளிவரவில்லை).
அது தான் முதல் இசைக்கோர்ப்பு என்று நினைக்கிறேன்.
LP இசைத்தட்டிலிருந்து டீக்கடை ஸ்பீக்கர்களில் இது கேட்க சுமாராக இருந்தது நினைவிருக்கிறது.
எஸ்பிபி - மலேசியா வாசுதேவன் குரல்களில் "நானும் நீயும் இன்று இளைஞன்".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ok3EbSWRmjY
இலங்கை வானொலிக்கு இந்தப்பாடல் தான் மிகவும் பிடித்திருந்தது அக்காலத்தில் - அடிக்கடி ஒலிபரப்புவார்கள் :
ஜெயச்சந்திரன் - சுசீலா குரல்களில் "சிந்து நதியோரம் தென்றல் விளையாடும்"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcyZ-26pcUw
ஜெயச்சந்திரன் - ஜானகி குரல்களில் ஒலித்த "பூவே மல்லிகைப்பூவே" பாடல் தான் அப்போது டீக்கடையில் கேட்கும்போது எனக்குப்பிடித்திருந்தது.
இப்போது ,முழுதும் கேட்குமளவுக்குப் பொறுமை இல்லையென்றாலும் சற்று "nostalgia" கிளறுகிறது
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKL3p661tuE
மலேசியா வாசுதேவன் - பூரணி பாடிய "வானம் பூச்சிந்தட்டும்" - அந்தக்காலத்தில் கேட்டிருந்தாலும் சற்றும் நினைவில் நிற்காத பாடல்.
ராசாவின் தம்பி என்று காண்பிக்கப் பலவிதத்தில் முயன்றிருக்கிறாரே ஒழிய தனித்துவம் ஒன்றும் காட்ட முயலவில்லை என்பது எல்லோரும் சொன்னது.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3H4Da7d95o
சுசீலா குரலில் ஒலித்த "இசையினிலே ராகம் பல நூறு" - இந்தப்பாடலை அப்போதே கேட்க யாருக்கும் பொறுமை இருக்காது.
டீக்கடையில் நண்பர் இதைக்கூடுதல் இட்டதில்லை (தட்டை மாற்றி விடுவார் என்று தெளிவாக நினைவிருக்கிறது).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQ5d_x6Vkbw
It was in 1978.
I've tweeted about all those songs today and let me capture them here as the first set of songs for this thread
1978-ல் அவர் இசையமைத்த "மலர்களிலே அவள் மல்லிகை" இசைத்தட்டு எங்கள் ஊர் டீக்கடையில் ஒலித்தது - இலங்கை வானொலியிலும்.
(படம் வெளிவரவில்லை).
அது தான் முதல் இசைக்கோர்ப்பு என்று நினைக்கிறேன்.
LP இசைத்தட்டிலிருந்து டீக்கடை ஸ்பீக்கர்களில் இது கேட்க சுமாராக இருந்தது நினைவிருக்கிறது.
எஸ்பிபி - மலேசியா வாசுதேவன் குரல்களில் "நானும் நீயும் இன்று இளைஞன்".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ok3EbSWRmjY
இலங்கை வானொலிக்கு இந்தப்பாடல் தான் மிகவும் பிடித்திருந்தது அக்காலத்தில் - அடிக்கடி ஒலிபரப்புவார்கள் :
ஜெயச்சந்திரன் - சுசீலா குரல்களில் "சிந்து நதியோரம் தென்றல் விளையாடும்"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcyZ-26pcUw
ஜெயச்சந்திரன் - ஜானகி குரல்களில் ஒலித்த "பூவே மல்லிகைப்பூவே" பாடல் தான் அப்போது டீக்கடையில் கேட்கும்போது எனக்குப்பிடித்திருந்தது.
இப்போது ,முழுதும் கேட்குமளவுக்குப் பொறுமை இல்லையென்றாலும் சற்று "nostalgia" கிளறுகிறது
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKL3p661tuE
மலேசியா வாசுதேவன் - பூரணி பாடிய "வானம் பூச்சிந்தட்டும்" - அந்தக்காலத்தில் கேட்டிருந்தாலும் சற்றும் நினைவில் நிற்காத பாடல்.
ராசாவின் தம்பி என்று காண்பிக்கப் பலவிதத்தில் முயன்றிருக்கிறாரே ஒழிய தனித்துவம் ஒன்றும் காட்ட முயலவில்லை என்பது எல்லோரும் சொன்னது.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3H4Da7d95o
சுசீலா குரலில் ஒலித்த "இசையினிலே ராகம் பல நூறு" - இந்தப்பாடலை அப்போதே கேட்க யாருக்கும் பொறுமை இருக்காது.
டீக்கடையில் நண்பர் இதைக்கூடுதல் இட்டதில்லை (தட்டை மாற்றி விடுவார் என்று தெளிவாக நினைவிருக்கிறது).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQ5d_x6Vkbw
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Re: Gangai Amaran as music director
As we've seen in the previous post, though GA had his first disk as MD released in 1978, he had no movie releases that year.
So, he had to wait till 1979, to see his name as "Music Director" on titles in a theater
There are at least 3 movies listed under his name from 1979 theater releases. Let us post them one by one here in this thread.
"karai kadandha kuRaththi" was the name of the movie when the audio disk got released. As such the "kuRaththi" name got used those days in a derogatory way by many, this caused an outrage and they had to change the name to "karai kadandha oruththi" when they went to censor.
Here are the pictures of the disk sleeve available on the net:
As per the above images, there had been 4 songs in the album. I've definitely heard one of them - "Odaththula thaNNeeru" which was very popular, had regular air time - espeically on IOKS. Not sure about the other three songs. (I'm surprised 2 songs are there on every platform - apple / spotify etc).
All four are in one website but that's not accessible in USA :
https://wynk.in/music/album/karai-kadantha-kurathi/sa_8907210132601
Let me get the YT links for the songs that are available on it:
ஓடத்துல தண்ணீரு - பெண்ணொருத்தி கண்ணீரு
சிறப்பான ஜானகி பாடல், கடசிங்காரி தூக்கலாகத் தெரியும்!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiRoKMPSF5o
பச்சமலப் பக்கத்தில குறத்தி
(இதற்கு முன் நான் கேட்டதே இல்லை)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gbHbfasfnk
நாலு மாதங்கள்
(இதற்கு முன் நான் கேட்டதே இல்லை)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXPi1g8xbbc
So, he had to wait till 1979, to see his name as "Music Director" on titles in a theater
There are at least 3 movies listed under his name from 1979 theater releases. Let us post them one by one here in this thread.
"karai kadandha kuRaththi" was the name of the movie when the audio disk got released. As such the "kuRaththi" name got used those days in a derogatory way by many, this caused an outrage and they had to change the name to "karai kadandha oruththi" when they went to censor.
Here are the pictures of the disk sleeve available on the net:
As per the above images, there had been 4 songs in the album. I've definitely heard one of them - "Odaththula thaNNeeru" which was very popular, had regular air time - espeically on IOKS. Not sure about the other three songs. (I'm surprised 2 songs are there on every platform - apple / spotify etc).
All four are in one website but that's not accessible in USA :
https://wynk.in/music/album/karai-kadantha-kurathi/sa_8907210132601
Let me get the YT links for the songs that are available on it:
ஓடத்துல தண்ணீரு - பெண்ணொருத்தி கண்ணீரு
சிறப்பான ஜானகி பாடல், கடசிங்காரி தூக்கலாகத் தெரியும்!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiRoKMPSF5o
பச்சமலப் பக்கத்தில குறத்தி
(இதற்கு முன் நான் கேட்டதே இல்லை)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gbHbfasfnk
நாலு மாதங்கள்
(இதற்கு முன் நான் கேட்டதே இல்லை)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXPi1g8xbbc
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Amazing work by you . From where and how did you get these images / wrapper covers.
கங்கை அமரன் திறமைக்காக அவரிடம் இசையமைக்கக் கேட்டு வந்தார்களா அல்லது இளையராஜா கால்ஷீட் கிடைக்காதவர்கள்.இவரிடம் வந்தார்களா. அவரின் திறமையை.குறைத்து மதிப்பிடவில்லை , ,Just want to know how he got those initial opportunities.
கங்கை அமரன் திறமைக்காக அவரிடம் இசையமைக்கக் கேட்டு வந்தார்களா அல்லது இளையராஜா கால்ஷீட் கிடைக்காதவர்கள்.இவரிடம் வந்தார்களா. அவரின் திறமையை.குறைத்து மதிப்பிடவில்லை , ,Just want to know how he got those initial opportunities.
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Viswam Nataraj wrote:Amazing work by you . From where and how did you get these images / wrapper covers.
கங்கை அமரன் திறமைக்காக அவரிடம் இசையமைக்கக் கேட்டு வந்தார்களா அல்லது இளையராஜா கால்ஷீட் கிடைக்காதவர்கள்.இவரிடம் வந்தார்களா. அவரின் திறமையை.குறைத்து மதிப்பிடவில்லை , ,Just want to know how he got those initial opportunities.
For disk sleeves, it is typically image search on google - nothing hi-fi
One of the sites that have a lot of 70s / 80s /90s sleeves is this:
https://mossymart.com/
Then there are others that will come up in the image search.
On GA's getting offers as MD - here's my take
People possibly picked him as "poor man's Ilayaraja" - knowing that he'll charge less but will perhaps do the following:
a) Get some melodies from Pannaippuram that both had grew up with (e.g. those their mother used to sing, like 'Ayiram thAmarai mottukkaLE' or 'annakkiLi unnaiththEdudhE')
b) Use the same orchestra & players - so the quality of output will be good (though GA himself admitted that they never sounded as good as when IR was conducting)
c) Has somewhat similar musical talent as his older brother from genetics
d) Can even get some "Ilayaraja tunes rejected by big directors such as BR from initial days"
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The first BO success movie with GA music must be "suvar illAdha siththirangaL" - which was first directorial venture of K Bagyaraj.
The album had 3 songs, as per this disk sleeve :
And most people are familiar with 'காதல் வைபோகமே" which was a super hit song! Frequently played on radio those days and also in buses / teakkadais (yes that culture had already started, thanks to the popularity of TFM by IR).
I believe this song also got a "remix" version in recent times Not sure if they retained the vocal originals of Janaki and Vasu...
Sudhakar - Sumathi on screen, apart from the director himself :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7EN9tjIzdQ
There are two other SPB songs (one with his sister) were not as popular as the MV song. Of course, the pathos number "ஆடிடும் ஓடமாய் ஆனதே காதலே" got played in radio every now and then and I can recall it immediately :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7H2n7L8ZEWE
OTOH, the other song "welcome-you are welcome" (which I found out to be the title song) was not much known or popular. It's possible I've heard it once or twice but do not remember well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E525Eo1q5pU
Overall, it was quite a success for GA as MD, though it had only few numbers - as per the standards of that time period
The album had 3 songs, as per this disk sleeve :
And most people are familiar with 'காதல் வைபோகமே" which was a super hit song! Frequently played on radio those days and also in buses / teakkadais (yes that culture had already started, thanks to the popularity of TFM by IR).
I believe this song also got a "remix" version in recent times Not sure if they retained the vocal originals of Janaki and Vasu...
Sudhakar - Sumathi on screen, apart from the director himself :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7EN9tjIzdQ
There are two other SPB songs (one with his sister) were not as popular as the MV song. Of course, the pathos number "ஆடிடும் ஓடமாய் ஆனதே காதலே" got played in radio every now and then and I can recall it immediately :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7H2n7L8ZEWE
OTOH, the other song "welcome-you are welcome" (which I found out to be the title song) was not much known or popular. It's possible I've heard it once or twice but do not remember well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E525Eo1q5pU
Overall, it was quite a success for GA as MD, though it had only few numbers - as per the standards of that time period
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Any reason why KBR chose GA over IR.
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Viswam Nataraj wrote:Any reason why KBR chose GA over IR.
Good question
However, I don't know the answer (and don't remember reading anything about this either those days or on the internet).
எங்காவது கண்ணில் தென்பட்டால் சொல்லுங்கள்!
அடுத்த படத்துக்கு எம் எஸ் வி (ஒரு கை ஓசை). பின்னர் மீண்டும் கங்கை அமரன் (மவுன கீதங்கள்).
எப்படி "இன்று போய் நாளை வா" படத்துக்கு ராசாவிடம் வந்தார் என்றும் தெரியவில்லை.
இ.போ.நா.வா. தயாரிப்பாளர் "பெட்ரோமாக்ஸ் லைட்டே தான் வேணும்" என்று சொல்லியிருக்கலாம்
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As we had already seen in the KJY's non-IR TFM hits thread, GA had yet another movie in the year 1979, oru vidukathai oru thodarkathai, directed by MA Kaja.
The album had 4 songs as per one audio sleeve that I could get on the web (actually the movie is also on YT, those who want to cross check can watch the movie Unfortunately, I don't have the time or patience at this time).
Interestingly, all the four songs are available on youtube and let me provide the links below, for anyone who wants to listen to them:
விடுகதை ஒன்று தொடர்கதை ஒன்று
Nice song, two male voices - a newcomer called "Ashok" & SPB - apart from SJ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rulwChRFlXs
நாயகன் அவன் ஒரு புறம் அவன் விழியில் மனைவி அழகு
Song already featured in the KJY thread - with SJ as co-singer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8x_qrOGg0o
அடி என்னோட வாடி அந்த ஆத்தோரமா தென்னந்தோப்போரமா
I don't remember hearing this song those days - sounds like SPB singing for Suruli Rajan (he sang a few in that time period, including one in ullAsappaRavaigaL under IR's baton)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rw49XzpSv6s
சின்னப்பொண்ணு மனம் பொன்னிநதி வெள்ளம் போலே
This song is actually nice, sweet melody in SJ's voice. Orchestration is not interesting (as usual)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctaP7AvtGBU
The album had 4 songs as per one audio sleeve that I could get on the web (actually the movie is also on YT, those who want to cross check can watch the movie Unfortunately, I don't have the time or patience at this time).
Interestingly, all the four songs are available on youtube and let me provide the links below, for anyone who wants to listen to them:
விடுகதை ஒன்று தொடர்கதை ஒன்று
Nice song, two male voices - a newcomer called "Ashok" & SPB - apart from SJ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rulwChRFlXs
நாயகன் அவன் ஒரு புறம் அவன் விழியில் மனைவி அழகு
Song already featured in the KJY thread - with SJ as co-singer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8x_qrOGg0o
அடி என்னோட வாடி அந்த ஆத்தோரமா தென்னந்தோப்போரமா
I don't remember hearing this song those days - sounds like SPB singing for Suruli Rajan (he sang a few in that time period, including one in ullAsappaRavaigaL under IR's baton)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rw49XzpSv6s
சின்னப்பொண்ணு மனம் பொன்னிநதி வெள்ளம் போலே
This song is actually nice, sweet melody in SJ's voice. Orchestration is not interesting (as usual)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctaP7AvtGBU
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Entering 1980 with an album that had a super hit song - "pon mAnaiththEdi nAnum poovOdu vandhEn".
This is a clear case of song being a hit though movie flopped, full credits to the composer! (IIRC, I used to compare this song with IR's 'vAdAdha rOsAppoo' song which has a very similar orchestration - which is surely a high order of comparison!)
The song played all the time on IOKS and other radio stations / buses / teakkadais and horn speakers in all village functions! Extremely popular!
We had this part of another sleeve above but I could not find its own sleeve. There are pictures of the disk, however:
Let me get songs from YT next...
ponmAnaiththEdi (MV / SPS)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lw0-Tixc4XM
sirukku oruththi, another MV-SPS duet was a big hit as well!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBOfg5UHG30
enga ooru mAriyammA - by MV - was a hit song also, frequently heard in village functions:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JsYB9Uj4xs
Along with those three big hit songs, the fourth song too got its sufficient air time - SJ solo that had a nice themmAngu mettu / gata singAri etc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E62e6GRRslE
This is a clear case of song being a hit though movie flopped, full credits to the composer! (IIRC, I used to compare this song with IR's 'vAdAdha rOsAppoo' song which has a very similar orchestration - which is surely a high order of comparison!)
The song played all the time on IOKS and other radio stations / buses / teakkadais and horn speakers in all village functions! Extremely popular!
We had this part of another sleeve above but I could not find its own sleeve. There are pictures of the disk, however:
Let me get songs from YT next...
ponmAnaiththEdi (MV / SPS)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lw0-Tixc4XM
sirukku oruththi, another MV-SPS duet was a big hit as well!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBOfg5UHG30
enga ooru mAriyammA - by MV - was a hit song also, frequently heard in village functions:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JsYB9Uj4xs
Along with those three big hit songs, the fourth song too got its sufficient air time - SJ solo that had a nice themmAngu mettu / gata singAri etc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E62e6GRRslE
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Another 1980 album that had popular songs was "malargaLE malarungaL" - not sure how the movie fared at BO (possibly below-average, definitely not a hit) - but 3 songs played frequently everywhere those days.
ஞாபகம் இல்லையோ
இசைக்கவோ நம் கல்யாண ராகம்
சுட்டும் விழிச்சுடர் தான் கண்ணம்மா
The above songs had a lot of radio time and were also heard on other media.
The vinyl cover is available on the web :
And all the songs are captured in a single YT by some channel (and there are many versions of the 'gnAbagam illaiyO' song in the movie )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-yAWPKBC78
ஞாபகம் இல்லையோ
இசைக்கவோ நம் கல்யாண ராகம்
சுட்டும் விழிச்சுடர் தான் கண்ணம்மா
The above songs had a lot of radio time and were also heard on other media.
The vinyl cover is available on the web :
And all the songs are captured in a single YT by some channel (and there are many versions of the 'gnAbagam illaiyO' song in the movie )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-yAWPKBC78
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"rAmAyi vasaukku vandhuttA" was another movie that GA did MD in the year 1980. This had Menaka in the lead role.
I could see 3 songs listed in the disks (no disk sleeve could be found on my search).
And all the three songs are available on YT - also the movie is available on YT. (Titles show GA had an assistant called Philips - it will be interesting to know if he is still around and has any social media presence).
நாலு வகைப்பூவில் மலர்க்கோட்டை
This song was a hit - played in radio and buses!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJSW_-Hkl2Y
அடி ராமாயி என் ராசாத்தி
This was a radio hit as well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xNnyo4MkHc
நான் தாங்கொப்பன்டா
Not much known - perhaps I've heard this once or twice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGcBDlk2MPg
I could see 3 songs listed in the disks (no disk sleeve could be found on my search).
And all the three songs are available on YT - also the movie is available on YT. (Titles show GA had an assistant called Philips - it will be interesting to know if he is still around and has any social media presence).
நாலு வகைப்பூவில் மலர்க்கோட்டை
This song was a hit - played in radio and buses!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJSW_-Hkl2Y
அடி ராமாயி என் ராசாத்தி
This was a radio hit as well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xNnyo4MkHc
நான் தாங்கொப்பன்டா
Not much known - perhaps I've heard this once or twice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGcBDlk2MPg
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தமிழ்த்திரைப்பாடல்கள் குறித்த தகவல்கள் (அதுவும் தரவுகளோடு) தருவதில் மிகச்சிறந்தவர்களில் ஒருவர் @rajinirams என்று மீண்டும் தெளிவுபடுத்தியிருக்கிறார்
தெருவிளக்கு படத்தில் மூன்று பாடல்கள். அவற்றுக்கு இரண்டு எனக்கு நன்கு தெரிந்தவை.
ஒன்று கமல் பாடியது (அந்தப்படத்தில் அவர் நடிக்கவில்லை - பின்னணி மட்டும் பாடினர் என்பது கங்கை அமரன் உட்பட அந்தப்படத்தின் குழுவினர் எல்லோருக்கும் பெருமைக்குரிய ஒன்று. கமலின் பெருந்தன்மைக்கும் எடுத்துக்காட்டு).
மதுரைப்பக்கம் என் மச்சான் ஊரு (சைலஜாவுடன்)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvez3UUMi6E
இன்னொரு பாடல் அமரின் அண்ணன் - ஆம், இளையராஜாவே தான் - பாடியிருந்தார். (என்ன தான் தன்னை இசையமைக்க ராசா விடவில்லை / முட்டுக்கட்டை போட்டார் என்றெல்லாம் கங்கையார் அவ்வப்போது புலம்பினாலும், உண்மை இது போன்ற பாடல்களைக் கேட்கையில் நமக்குத் தெளிவாகவே தெரிகிறது)
போடய்யா ஒரு கடுதாசி (இளையராசா - ஜானகி)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAA4zmv6hA0
மூன்றாவது பாடல் இருக்கிறது என்பது இசைத்தட்டுப் படத்திலிருந்து புரிந்தாலும் "என்ன பாட்டு" என்பதோ மற்ற விவரங்களோ இல்லை. ட்விட்டரில் என் வேண்டுகோளுக்கு உடனடியாகப் பலன் கிடைத்தது
மேலே சொன்னது போல், @rajinirams அவர்கள் கொடுத்த தகவல் படி இது தான் அந்தப்பாடல் :
ஆனி ஆடி ஆவணியாச்சு அக்கா மனசு புரிஞ்சு போச்சு (வாணி / சைலஜா)
பாட்டு வலையில் எங்கும் இருப்பது போல் தெரியவில்லை / கேட்ட நினைவும் எனக்கில்லை!
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In 1980, GA had yet another movie in with Radhika acted, with the name "paruvathin vAsalilE".
While I could not identify the disk sleeve or such on the net, the movie itself is available on YT and the way they've shown GA"s name in titles is kind of funny :
I scanned thru the movie YT and found 3 songs - all of them quite familiar to me as I've probably heard them on radio those days. IOKS, definitely.
Those are also on mio and YT.
தமிழில் இருந்து உலகம் முழுதும் இனிமை பிறந்தது - ஜெயச்சந்திரன்
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQMJkBP3nx0
கோவிலின் தேர் என தேவதை வருகையோ - எஸ்பிபி
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ks7hn8Sai6g
ஏதோ புதுவித சுகம் - ஜானகி / ஏசுதாஸ்
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6w3F6e6NsYQ
While I could not identify the disk sleeve or such on the net, the movie itself is available on YT and the way they've shown GA"s name in titles is kind of funny :
I scanned thru the movie YT and found 3 songs - all of them quite familiar to me as I've probably heard them on radio those days. IOKS, definitely.
Those are also on mio and YT.
தமிழில் இருந்து உலகம் முழுதும் இனிமை பிறந்தது - ஜெயச்சந்திரன்
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQMJkBP3nx0
கோவிலின் தேர் என தேவதை வருகையோ - எஸ்பிபி
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ks7hn8Sai6g
ஏதோ புதுவித சுகம் - ஜானகி / ஏசுதாஸ்
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6w3F6e6NsYQ
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GA's 1980 album "tharayil pootha malar" is another obscure one, not sure if the movie itself got released or not
Here are the sleeve pictures :
All the songs are in mio site - only one song sounds familiar to me (ooru uRangum rAththiri nEram) - possibly heard on ilangai vAnoli.
Never heard the other songs before - surprising to note that GA had two songs done by TMS at a time period when the singer had issues with IR (to the extent that IR was not signed up for Sivaji Ganesan movies for a few years)...
அன்னமே சொர்ணமே வைரமே - மலேசியா வாசுதேவன் - பூரணி
ஊரு உறங்கும் ராத்திரி நேரம் - எஸ்பிபி - ஜானகி
ரூபசுந்தரி ராணியே - டி எம் எஸ் - பூரணி
கூந்தல் அவிழ்ந்ததம்மா - டி எம் எஸ்
https://mio.to/album/Tharayil+Pootha+Malar+%281980%29
Here are the sleeve pictures :
All the songs are in mio site - only one song sounds familiar to me (ooru uRangum rAththiri nEram) - possibly heard on ilangai vAnoli.
Never heard the other songs before - surprising to note that GA had two songs done by TMS at a time period when the singer had issues with IR (to the extent that IR was not signed up for Sivaji Ganesan movies for a few years)...
அன்னமே சொர்ணமே வைரமே - மலேசியா வாசுதேவன் - பூரணி
ஊரு உறங்கும் ராத்திரி நேரம் - எஸ்பிபி - ஜானகி
ரூபசுந்தரி ராணியே - டி எம் எஸ் - பூரணி
கூந்தல் அவிழ்ந்ததம்மா - டி எம் எஸ்
https://mio.to/album/Tharayil+Pootha+Malar+%281980%29
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Found the disc sleeve and details of a 1979 album today on the web.
Most probably the film never got released - I'm familiar with just one song (the JC-SJ number) and possibly heard it on SLBC (IOKS).
That song and the KJY solo sound listenable - the other two are not my cup of tea.
வலம்புரிச்சங்கு
இது காலாகாலம் அலைகள் கரையில் ஏறி வர - ஜானகி & ஜெயச்சந்திரன்
என்ன சுகமோ முதல் முதல் தொடும் சுகம் - ஏசுதாஸ்
காத்தாடப்போகுறா கைராசி மோகனா - மலேசியா வாசுதேவன்
சிப்பிக்குள்ளே முத்துப்போலே - வாணி ஜெயராம்
The songs are available on YT as well as mio and can be listened from the link below:
https://mio.to/album/Valampuri+Sangu+%281979%29
Here are the disk covers :
Most probably the film never got released - I'm familiar with just one song (the JC-SJ number) and possibly heard it on SLBC (IOKS).
That song and the KJY solo sound listenable - the other two are not my cup of tea.
வலம்புரிச்சங்கு
இது காலாகாலம் அலைகள் கரையில் ஏறி வர - ஜானகி & ஜெயச்சந்திரன்
என்ன சுகமோ முதல் முதல் தொடும் சுகம் - ஏசுதாஸ்
காத்தாடப்போகுறா கைராசி மோகனா - மலேசியா வாசுதேவன்
சிப்பிக்குள்ளே முத்துப்போலே - வாணி ஜெயராம்
The songs are available on YT as well as mio and can be listened from the link below:
https://mio.to/album/Valampuri+Sangu+%281979%29
Here are the disk covers :
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There is one movie left from the year 1980 but I could not find any disk sleeve for that album - karadi.
The movie itself is on YT and here is the link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHZmlLCWX_8
There are at least 3 songs (as depicted by 3 lyricists)
Two of the songs could be found in YT :
இறைவனவன் படைத்ததெல்லாம் - SP ஷைலஜா & MC பாலு
(I'm sure I've heard this song on radio a few times - the other two songs are first time listen today)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2ZbVbiSpHQ
காத்தாடுது - ஜென்சி & MC பாலு
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uif6RLXu1BA
I could not find the 3rd one separately but it is part of the movie, direct link is given below:
பார்த்தாலும் ஆசை இது தீராது - ஜெயச்சந்திரன் - அம்புலி
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qBeFTj0VX4&t=1027s
The movie itself is on YT and here is the link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHZmlLCWX_8
There are at least 3 songs (as depicted by 3 lyricists)
Two of the songs could be found in YT :
இறைவனவன் படைத்ததெல்லாம் - SP ஷைலஜா & MC பாலு
(I'm sure I've heard this song on radio a few times - the other two songs are first time listen today)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2ZbVbiSpHQ
காத்தாடுது - ஜென்சி & MC பாலு
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uif6RLXu1BA
I could not find the 3rd one separately but it is part of the movie, direct link is given below:
பார்த்தாலும் ஆசை இது தீராது - ஜெயச்சந்திரன் - அம்புலி
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qBeFTj0VX4&t=1027s
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Moving on to 1981, we get one of the BIGGEST HITS of GA's musical career. This was also a blockbuster hit for K Bagyaraj, in a scale much superior to all his previous movies.
First part of the story came as a "thodar kadhai" in Kumudam, with movie stills themselves (instead of the norm of pictures drawn by artists such as Jayaraj / Maniam Selvan / Maruthi et al). And it ended in a way similar to "pAttu pushthagams" - "மீதியை வெள்ளித்திரையில் காண்க "
The movie was a smash hit and the songs were a rage - playing everywhere, for years!
Here are the disc covers and the songs, for quick reference:
டாடி டாடி ஓ மை டாடி - ஜானகி / மலேசியா வாசுதேவன்
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZQRgQhPhog
மாசமோ மார்கழி மாசம் - ஜானகி / மலேசியா வாசுதேவன்
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8672hW3IBZ8
மூக்குத்திப்பூ மேலே - ஜானகி / ஏசுதாஸ்
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWItrTCbDCw
மூக்குத்திப்பூ மேலே (சோகம்) - எஸ்பிபி
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDzm2CyEgr0
First part of the story came as a "thodar kadhai" in Kumudam, with movie stills themselves (instead of the norm of pictures drawn by artists such as Jayaraj / Maniam Selvan / Maruthi et al). And it ended in a way similar to "pAttu pushthagams" - "மீதியை வெள்ளித்திரையில் காண்க "
The movie was a smash hit and the songs were a rage - playing everywhere, for years!
Here are the disc covers and the songs, for quick reference:
டாடி டாடி ஓ மை டாடி - ஜானகி / மலேசியா வாசுதேவன்
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZQRgQhPhog
மாசமோ மார்கழி மாசம் - ஜானகி / மலேசியா வாசுதேவன்
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8672hW3IBZ8
மூக்குத்திப்பூ மேலே - ஜானகி / ஏசுதாஸ்
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWItrTCbDCw
மூக்குத்திப்பூ மேலே (சோகம்) - எஸ்பிபி
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDzm2CyEgr0
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Re: Gangai Amaran as music director
Though most of us were naive to believe those days that there was a "IR-GA" combo album - because of the way they advertised and promoted the movie, the reality of "sankarlal" was quite different.
Documenting here once again, for historical purposes.
The movie / album started off with IR as MD by T N Balu (producer / director) - with Kamal / Sridevi. This was after the humongous success of his movie "sattam en kaiyil" (that had IR's music of course).
Sadly, after starting the movie (and possibly recording "iLankiLiyE" during the poojai, as per the practice those days), the director died and the movie was in limbo for a while.
Later, when Kamal revived it with the cameraman as director (lot of work possibly got done by KH himself), they could not possibly get IR's dates (as he became extremely busy) and instead signed up GA. When they released the disk, however, they made it appear as if IR-GA were "co-composers' (which was not true, as indicated by the INRECO picture clearly below):
There are a couple of other pictures that possibly caused naive fans to think that "aNNan thambi" were working on music together (as in mella thiRandhadhu kadhavu later on with MSV) :
All the songs are in the YT below :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFYFFspB8bs
Of course, IR's song is the best but the GA songs weren't bad either. The movie was a terrible flop and people don't remember the songs much these days.
Documenting here once again, for historical purposes.
The movie / album started off with IR as MD by T N Balu (producer / director) - with Kamal / Sridevi. This was after the humongous success of his movie "sattam en kaiyil" (that had IR's music of course).
Sadly, after starting the movie (and possibly recording "iLankiLiyE" during the poojai, as per the practice those days), the director died and the movie was in limbo for a while.
Later, when Kamal revived it with the cameraman as director (lot of work possibly got done by KH himself), they could not possibly get IR's dates (as he became extremely busy) and instead signed up GA. When they released the disk, however, they made it appear as if IR-GA were "co-composers' (which was not true, as indicated by the INRECO picture clearly below):
There are a couple of other pictures that possibly caused naive fans to think that "aNNan thambi" were working on music together (as in mella thiRandhadhu kadhavu later on with MSV) :
All the songs are in the YT below :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFYFFspB8bs
Of course, IR's song is the best but the GA songs weren't bad either. The movie was a terrible flop and people don't remember the songs much these days.
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Re: Gangai Amaran as music director
GA produced the first movie of Bharathi-Vasu (Santhanabharathy & P Vasu directed a few movies together in this name). It was panneer pushpangaL, with superb score by IR (phenomenal songs such as poonthaLirAda / Anandha rAgam / kOdai kAlakkAtRE).
Their next movie was "madhu malar" and it had music by GA as all these were close pals. Unfortunately, neither the album nor the movie did well in the market. (Their next movie was produced by Bharathiraja with IR music, mellappEsungaL, that introduced Banupriya to TF field).
Could not find disk sleeve for this album but the pictures of disks are available on the web, to account for the correct credits
Some songs are on YT but it is easier to get them here from mio:
வானமே மழை மேகமே - ஏசுதாஸ் - உமா ரமணன்
கைராசியே நம்ம ராசி - மலேசியா வாசுதேவன் - TL மகராஜன்
மாலையே இளமாலையே - ஜானகி
ஆனந்தமே அலைபாயுதே - எஸ்பிபி
https://mio.to/album/Madhu+Malar+%281981%29
I have heard the KJY-UR song frequently on IOKS - none of the other songs are familiar to me ; possibly never heard some before...
Their next movie was "madhu malar" and it had music by GA as all these were close pals. Unfortunately, neither the album nor the movie did well in the market. (Their next movie was produced by Bharathiraja with IR music, mellappEsungaL, that introduced Banupriya to TF field).
Could not find disk sleeve for this album but the pictures of disks are available on the web, to account for the correct credits
Some songs are on YT but it is easier to get them here from mio:
வானமே மழை மேகமே - ஏசுதாஸ் - உமா ரமணன்
கைராசியே நம்ம ராசி - மலேசியா வாசுதேவன் - TL மகராஜன்
மாலையே இளமாலையே - ஜானகி
ஆனந்தமே அலைபாயுதே - எஸ்பிபி
https://mio.to/album/Madhu+Malar+%281981%29
I have heard the KJY-UR song frequently on IOKS - none of the other songs are familiar to me ; possibly never heard some before...
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Re: Gangai Amaran as music director
I was surprised to see the name of R Sundarrajan in the titles for the 1981 movie "oruthi mattum karaiyinilE" that had GA music. Not surprising, knowing he was trying hard for a while before hitting it big with payaNangaL mudivadhillai.
Well, this album had just once song which is known to me - as it got enough air time those days - sOLakkarudhu Adudhu by SPB-SJ.
There are 4 songs as per the disk sleeves one can find on web:
All four of them are captured in a single youtube :
ஒருத்தி மட்டும் கரையினிலே
ஆத்தோரம் மேட்டு மேலே - கங்கை அமரன் - கௌசல்யா
சோளக்கருது ஆடுது - ஜானகி - எஸ்பிபி
வாடி சுப்பாத்தா - மலேசியா வாசுதேவன், எஸ்பி சைலஜா, வாணி ஜெயராம், சுந்தர்ராஜன்
அம்மாடி ஆத்தவிட்டு வெள்ளம் போகுது - மலேசியா வாசுதேவன் / பூர்ணிமா
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4BsfrJmHmg
Well, this album had just once song which is known to me - as it got enough air time those days - sOLakkarudhu Adudhu by SPB-SJ.
There are 4 songs as per the disk sleeves one can find on web:
All four of them are captured in a single youtube :
ஒருத்தி மட்டும் கரையினிலே
ஆத்தோரம் மேட்டு மேலே - கங்கை அமரன் - கௌசல்யா
சோளக்கருது ஆடுது - ஜானகி - எஸ்பிபி
வாடி சுப்பாத்தா - மலேசியா வாசுதேவன், எஸ்பி சைலஜா, வாணி ஜெயராம், சுந்தர்ராஜன்
அம்மாடி ஆத்தவிட்டு வெள்ளம் போகுது - மலேசியா வாசுதேவன் / பூர்ணிமா
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4BsfrJmHmg
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Re: Gangai Amaran as music director
GA had another low-budget movie from 1981, directed by Rama Narayanan (who was well-known for such quickies).
சுமை possibly had only two songs (if one goes by this disc cover) and I'm familiar with both songs, having heard them on radio a few times:
Here are the songs on YT:
ஏ ஒரு ராத்திரி - ஏசுதாஸ்
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GP53_0VOJGk
அம்மா கண்ணு பூவு பொண்ணு - ஜெயச்சந்திரன்
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYqL8jhJ3Kk
சுமை possibly had only two songs (if one goes by this disc cover) and I'm familiar with both songs, having heard them on radio a few times:
Here are the songs on YT:
ஏ ஒரு ராத்திரி - ஏசுதாஸ்
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GP53_0VOJGk
அம்மா கண்ணு பூவு பொண்ணு - ஜெயச்சந்திரன்
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYqL8jhJ3Kk
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Realized today that another older album (like the unreleased "valampuri changu") got missed out and it is from 1980.
thEneer (movie by "kudisai" Jayabharathi) had GA as MD and released only the disk in 1980. Like Saravanan sir who reminisces this in dhool, me too have heard the 'unadhE iLamAlaippozhudhu' song on IOKS those days.
The movie did not get released as such but possibly went thru some changes and came out in 1984 as "oomai janangaL" - still credited to GA but at least one song is listed as V Kumar's in the titles (written by Kavingar Kannadasan).
Here are some interesting links:
Saravanan sir's dhool post (moved to "new dhool" blog):
https://newdhool.blogspot.com/2017/11/4.html
The movie that came out eventually as "oomai janangaL" (surprisingly with KBR in an off-beat film) :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xboUnfh_vFE
The sweet KJY number "unadhE iLamAlaippozhudhu" :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qloGUUYa08Q
Not interested in other songs Also, I could not find any audio sleeves in the net (other than the picture that dhool blog has). Let me simply list them here, for ref :
உனதே இளமாலைப்பொழுது (ஏசுதாஸ்)
அடிப்பவனும் இடிப்பவனும் ( TL மகாராஜன் / வாணி ஜெயராம்)
என்னவோ செய்தி (ஜெயச்சந்திரன் / ஜானகி)
வெகு காலம் இங்கு (மலேசியா வாசுதேவன் / பூரணி)
thEneer (movie by "kudisai" Jayabharathi) had GA as MD and released only the disk in 1980. Like Saravanan sir who reminisces this in dhool, me too have heard the 'unadhE iLamAlaippozhudhu' song on IOKS those days.
The movie did not get released as such but possibly went thru some changes and came out in 1984 as "oomai janangaL" - still credited to GA but at least one song is listed as V Kumar's in the titles (written by Kavingar Kannadasan).
Here are some interesting links:
Saravanan sir's dhool post (moved to "new dhool" blog):
https://newdhool.blogspot.com/2017/11/4.html
The movie that came out eventually as "oomai janangaL" (surprisingly with KBR in an off-beat film) :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xboUnfh_vFE
The sweet KJY number "unadhE iLamAlaippozhudhu" :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qloGUUYa08Q
Not interested in other songs Also, I could not find any audio sleeves in the net (other than the picture that dhool blog has). Let me simply list them here, for ref :
உனதே இளமாலைப்பொழுது (ஏசுதாஸ்)
அடிப்பவனும் இடிப்பவனும் ( TL மகாராஜன் / வாணி ஜெயராம்)
என்னவோ செய்தி (ஜெயச்சந்திரன் / ஜானகி)
வெகு காலம் இங்கு (மலேசியா வாசுதேவன் / பூரணி)
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There's another 1981 album called "koochcham" - not sure if the movie came out or not.
However, at least one song got played frequently on radio (don't remember clearly if it was IOKS or otherwise). Also, a couple of songs are on YT and the disk sleeves are available on the internet, so let us it get it cataloged here under 1981
Here are the songs :
பொன்வானிலே பூந்தோட்டமே - ஏசுதாஸ்
This is the one I've heard on radio - decent number & the same is on YT:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9onmS_0-jc
One more song is on YT as well :
ஹோ கண்ணம்மா இன்னும் நாணம் என்னம்மா - ஏசுதாஸ் & ஜானகி
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlbDDF0AUO0
The other two may be on the net somewhere - did not search for them :
அங்காளம்மா - மலேசியா வாசுதேவன் / சுந்தர்ராஜன்
போராடும் நிலா - தீபன் சக்ரவர்த்தி - வாணி ஜெயராம்
However, at least one song got played frequently on radio (don't remember clearly if it was IOKS or otherwise). Also, a couple of songs are on YT and the disk sleeves are available on the internet, so let us it get it cataloged here under 1981
Here are the songs :
பொன்வானிலே பூந்தோட்டமே - ஏசுதாஸ்
This is the one I've heard on radio - decent number & the same is on YT:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9onmS_0-jc
One more song is on YT as well :
ஹோ கண்ணம்மா இன்னும் நாணம் என்னம்மா - ஏசுதாஸ் & ஜானகி
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlbDDF0AUO0
The other two may be on the net somewhere - did not search for them :
அங்காளம்மா - மலேசியா வாசுதேவன் / சுந்தர்ராஜன்
போராடும் நிலா - தீபன் சக்ரவர்த்தி - வாணி ஜெயராம்
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One more 1981 album for which the whole movie (and a couple of songs) are available on YT but there could be no record sleeves found on the net
Cataloging the songs here :
வெளிச்சத்துக்கு வாங்க (1981) - the whole movie:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZmiAW-gx8M
பாடுவேன் நான் மலர் சூடுவேன் நான் - ஜானகி - not a great song but listenable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnMTJhV9iT0
நட்சத்திரப்பூவை எடுத்து மாலை தொடுத்துத்தரட்டுமா? - எஸ்பிபி - வாணி ஜெயராம்
The melody is very similar to the famous "neela vAna Odaiyil' vAzhvE mAyam - may be same rAgam :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InuAy8LMHog
The other two songs could not be found as individual youtubes but find below the pointers in the movie :
எண்ணும் நினைவுகள் இனியதம்மா - வாணி ஜெயராம்
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZmiAW-gx8M&t=2410s
ஊர்கோலம் வந்தேனடா இந்த ஊருக்குள்ளே நானடா - மலேசியா வாசுதேவன்
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZmiAW-gx8M&t=3288s
Lyricists for each song could not be identified due to lack of audio sleeve pictures but there's a screenshot from the movie titles :
Cataloging the songs here :
வெளிச்சத்துக்கு வாங்க (1981) - the whole movie:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZmiAW-gx8M
பாடுவேன் நான் மலர் சூடுவேன் நான் - ஜானகி - not a great song but listenable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnMTJhV9iT0
நட்சத்திரப்பூவை எடுத்து மாலை தொடுத்துத்தரட்டுமா? - எஸ்பிபி - வாணி ஜெயராம்
The melody is very similar to the famous "neela vAna Odaiyil' vAzhvE mAyam - may be same rAgam :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InuAy8LMHog
The other two songs could not be found as individual youtubes but find below the pointers in the movie :
எண்ணும் நினைவுகள் இனியதம்மா - வாணி ஜெயராம்
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZmiAW-gx8M&t=2410s
ஊர்கோலம் வந்தேனடா இந்த ஊருக்குள்ளே நானடா - மலேசியா வாசுதேவன்
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZmiAW-gx8M&t=3288s
Lyricists for each song could not be identified due to lack of audio sleeve pictures but there's a screenshot from the movie titles :
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