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What were TN hits from the album "barathan"?

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Post  BC Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:18 am

Kaalai kuyilgale and Oru raagam were superhits.  The other 3 songs were moderate hits.

For the first 2 bars, Kaalai kuyilgale is reminiscent of SDB's Khoya khoya chaand, but then IR veers away and owns the song.  Another one of Mohini's superhit solo.

The album is on Gaana, Jio Saavn and Spotify: https://gaana.com/album/unnai-vaazhthi-paadugiren

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Post  app_engine Wed Sep 15, 2021 11:40 pm

At least a few people have said "unnai vAzhththa vandhEn" was exception (not hit), so leaving that out and adding all other songs to our list.

#1441 O kAlai kuyilgaLE (SJ solo, unnai vAzhththi pAdukiREn)
Never knew the name of the album but I've heard this song many times involuntarily during trips in Tn - excellent singing by SJ!

#1442 ippOdhum nippEn eppOdhum nippEn (Mano with chorus, unnai vAzhththi pAdukiREn)
Personally do not rate this high, but apparently popular in TN

#1443 oru rAgam tharAdha veeNai (SJ-KJY duet, unnai vAzhththi pAdukiREn)
Excellent song, loved it!

#1444 oru mAlai chandiran (Minmini-SPB duet, unnai vAzhththi pAdukiREn)
Definitely heard before, not sure how (most probably on internet, thru forums or posts by IRFs) - this one is nice too, deserved to be a hit!

The next album is familiar to me, with a few songs frequently playing in my drives - however, not sure about the popularity of each song in TN - so, poll needed

vaNNa vaNNa pookkaL

 
kaNNammA kAdhal yennum kavithai solladiilaiyaRaaja / S.Janaki
kOzhi koovum nErathilES.P.Balasubramaniam / S.Janaki
iLa nenjE vA nee ingE vAK.J.Yesudas
pangunikkappuRam chiththiraiyDr.Ganesh [Shankar] / K.S.Chithra / Chorus
dhiranA dhiranAMano
chinnamaNi koyililE Aduthadi oru viLakkuK.J.Yesudas

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Post  BC Thu Sep 16, 2021 12:48 am

Almost a hit album.  Of course, Ila nenje vaa and Kannammaa were superhits and chart toppers for many weeks across media.  Kozhi koovum, Panguniapparam and ChinnamaNi were moderate hits.  The left-out song Dhirana was not heard at all.  P.S.: Kozhi koovum has more views than Ila nenje vaa now!

In the song Panguniapparam, a voice that goes "jinjinaakkadi" - Wikipedia says Ganesan.  One of the YouTube comments say that it was sung by Ganesh of Shankar-Ganesh music director duo.  IS IT REALLY SO?  I seriously doubt that, given how Ganesh indirectly mocked at IR during the PS felicitation event when VM went on a boasting mode about introducing some 40 music directors(!). 

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On a related note, I stumbled upon this January-1993 news article on Indian Express, about 1992 Kollywood-roundup.  Look at the short paragraph about IR on page-7, in the upper right corner, under the article "Run-of-the-mill fare".

https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=P9oYG7HA76QC&dat=19930101&printsec=frontpage

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Post  app_engine Thu Sep 16, 2021 5:00 pm

BC wrote:

In the song Panguniapparam, a voice that goes "jinjinaakkadi" - Wikipedia says Ganesan.  One of the YouTube comments say that it was sung by Ganesh of Shankar-Ganesh music director duo.  IS IT REALLY SO?  I seriously doubt that, given how Ganesh indirectly mocked at IR during the PS felicitation event when VM went on a boasting mode about introducing some 40 music directors(!). 


It is not the voice of (Shankar) Ganesh - I don't think so.

Someone else.

Ganesh interview is here (with Bosskey) and one can compare the voice:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1W20_-9YqI

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Post  app_engine Thu Sep 16, 2021 8:19 pm

So, vaNNa vaNNa pookkaL is another big hit album that IR gave to BM (like many others in 80's).

Other than that AlAp (dhiranA dhiranA) which is more of BGM, let us include all the "songs" Smile

#1445 kaNNammA kAdhal ennum kavidhai solladi (SJ-IR duet, vaNNa vaNNa pookkaL)
What a sweet song this one is! Also haunting!

#1446 kOzhi koovum nEraththilE (SJ-SPB duet, vaNNa vaNNa pookkaL)
Since I wasn't very familiar, this was not part of my IR-SPB hits thread. Interesting song, however!

#1447 iLa nenjE vA (KJY solo, vaNNa vaNNa pookkaL)
What a lovely #IR_misrA song, quite a complicated melody!

#1448 pangunikkappuRam chithiraiyE (KSC - Ganesh, vaNNa vaNNa pookkaL)
Not sure if the male voice is really Ganesh the MD, let us ask industry insiders. However, KSC sings this one SO WELL!

#1449 chinnamaNi kOyililE Adudhadi oru viLakku (KJY solo, vaNNa vaNNa pookkaL)

Another excellent KJY solo!

Moving on to the next poll, vetRi karangaL - none of the songs play in my mind when I read the lines Embarassed

 
naLLiravu mella mella nammai vittu sella sellaMano / S.Janaki 
mEga veethiyil nooRu veNNilAMano / Arunmozhi / Chorus
unnAla thoongalai yammAMano / K.S.Chithra
izhukka izhukka varuthu Mano / S.Janaki / Chorus

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Post  BC Fri Sep 17, 2021 12:51 am

app_engine wrote:
BC wrote:

In the song Panguniapparam, a voice that goes "jinjinaakkadi" - Wikipedia says Ganesan.  One of the YouTube comments say that it was sung by Ganesh of Shankar-Ganesh music director duo.  IS IT REALLY SO?  I seriously doubt that, given how Ganesh indirectly mocked at IR during the PS felicitation event when VM went on a boasting mode about introducing some 40 music directors(!). 


It is not the voice of (Shankar) Ganesh - I don't think so.

Someone else.

Ganesh interview is here (with Bosskey) and one can compare the voice:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1W20_-9YqI

Yes, I do remember watching it years ago.  That is why I asked if anybody knew who that "Ganesan" singer was.  Wikipedia link for that Pangunikkaparam song takes you to Shankar-Ganesh page.  So, maybe, the YouTube user got confused seeing that.  Also, there is no way he was going to sing that short portion for IR.

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Post  BC Fri Sep 17, 2021 1:04 am

Nalliravu mella mella and Mega veedhiyil were superhits.  Izhukka izhukka and Unnala thoongala were moderate hits.  Nalliravu mella mella was the go-to song for Doordarshan on every New Year's eve those days, along with the ever-popular Ilamai idho idho!

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Post  app_engine Sat Sep 18, 2021 12:26 am

Taking majority opinions, let me add two songs from this album. (Some twitters nominate the other two, for now let us leave them out)/

#1450 naLLiravu mella mella (SJ-Mano duet, vetRi karangaL)
Peppy number and supposedly accompanied iLamai idhO idhO for Jan 1 celebrations those days!

#1451 mEga veedhiyil nooRu veNNilA (Arunmozhi / Mano with chorus, vetRi karangaL)
Nice song, first time listen for me - many TN-ers opine this was popular Smile

Moving on to the last album for 1991, which needs a poll as well - "vetRi padiga" (didn't people get confused with all these similar names? Embarassed )

kanavu palithathuS.P.Balasubramaniam / S.Janaki
oru kAththu karuppai kaNdaS.Janaki / Saibaba
unnai kAkkum thAi pOl iruppEn vA neeilaiyaRaaja

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Post  BC Sat Sep 18, 2021 3:23 am

Kanavu palithadhu was a moderate hit.  Oru kaathu and Enadhu thittangal (which you seem to have missed) maybe Tier-3 hits.

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Post  app_engine Tue Sep 21, 2021 12:34 am

Taking into account the views of TN-ers (here and twitter), let me add 2 songs from this last album of 1991 in the list.

#1452 kanavu paliththadhu (SJ-SPB duet, vetRippadigaL)
Nice sounding peppy number, first time listen for me but familiar to TN-ers

#1453 oru kAththu karuppu kaNdA (SJ with Saibaba, vetRippadigaL)
This is an even better one but also a 1st time listen for me Smile

With that, curtains for 1991.

I'll come up with the stats post ASAP!

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Post  app_engine Tue Sep 21, 2021 1:16 am

If someone is telling that "IR is an 80's MD", this statistics should be tossed at them and asked "how many MD's have this many hits in the WHOLE 90's (let alone in one year, such as 1990 or 1991) :

YearCat A (Super Hits)Cat B (Hits)Cat C (Moderate Hits)Year Total
197674213
197721141550
197825151050
197933293395
19804061056
19815438N/A92
19827733N/A110
19835624N/A80
19846235N/A97
198510727N/A134
19867737N/A114
19876825N/A93
19884713N/A60
19898634N/A120
199011352N/A165
19919331N/A124
Total so far966417701453
On each of the first two years of 90's, IR had more than 100 hits in TN.  

My prediction is we'll have very similar numbers for at least another couple of years at least (before the industry turned their back to him, mostly based on push from groups and not because of lack of great music flow - aided by success of much lesser talents).

In any case, we'll continue with our documentation to keep history books intact!

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Post  BC Tue Sep 21, 2021 1:36 am

app_engine wrote:If someone is telling that "IR is an 80's MD", this statistics should be tossed at them and asked "how many MD's have this many hits in the WHOLE 90's (let alone in one year, such as 1990 or 1991)

That is just another viciously PLANTED rhetoric, fuelled by some people in his own industry, popularized by the media which was always working against him, and later lapped by the common people including the so-called "IR fans".

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Post  app_engine Wed Sep 22, 2021 12:49 am

As we have many more years to complete (and possibly another 400+ TFM albums), let us get started with 1992 right away.

Interestingly, AvArampoo got introduced to me only in the new millennium, that too by a Malayali co-worker when I visited him in his village to console his dad's demise.

I don't know how it did in TN when arrived  though I included 2 SPB hits in the hub thread when documenting them - now, let us have a poll.
 
AlOlam pAdi AsanthAdum kARREilaiyaRaaja
sAmikitta solli vachchu sErnthathu intha chella kiLiyES.P.Balasubramaniam / S.Janaki
nathiyOdum karaiyOram oru rAgam alai pAyumS.Janaki
adukku malli yeduthu vanthuS.P.Balasubramaniam / S.Janaki / Chorus
manthiram ithu manthiramK.J.Yesudas / Chorus
Om vAthsyAniK.J.Yesudas

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Post  BC Wed Sep 22, 2021 1:43 am

Superhit album.  Each song brims with soul.  One of my favorite albums ever.

The jukebox is on IR-O.  

There is a comment down there "Guruvae Charanam" that belongs to a user called 'Saint SS' who is none other than Joshua Sridhar, MD of Kaadhal movie.  He had his original name with his profile photo which he later changed to stay incognito!  Apparently, a huge fan of IR.


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Post  app_engine Wed Sep 22, 2021 7:14 pm

There had been overwhelming response that AvArampoo was a super hit album. Let us include all the 5 songs then. (The small slOgam prior to mandhiram song is bundled and not treated as a separate song).

#1454 AlOlam pAdi asaindhAdum kAtRE (IR solo, AvArampoo)
Very soothing number in Maestro's voice!

#1455 sAmi kitta cholli vachchu (SJ-SPB duet, AvArampoo)
Nice duet - part of my long running thread in the hub. Also part of the 100 songs handpicked for the GA thread.

#1456 nadhiyOdum karaiyOdum oru rAgam alai pAyum (SJ solo, AvArampoo)
Terrific - free flowing melody, nicely sung by SJ!

#1457 adukku malli eduththu vanthu (SJ-SPB duet, AvArampoo)
Another superb song in the voices of my favorite duet pair, once again part of the IR-SPB thread on mayyam

#1458 manthiram ithu manthiram (KJY solo, AvArampoo)
Possibly Barathan's favorite number in Dasettan's voice Smile  Reminds one of the very many terrific songs that KJY rendered in Malayalam in late 80's and early 90's (for various MDs). என்ன ஒரு செழுமையான குரல்!

The next album appears to be a dubbed one, for director Singeetham. "aboorva sakthi 269".

Not sure if these made it big in TN. Let us hear from TN-ers.
 


Athiyil shridiyAi [Slogam]S.P.Balasubramaniam
centuryai pOdum vayasuthAnES.P.Balasubramaniam / S.Janaki / Chorus
rAsa leelai kAlamS.P.Balasubramaniam / S.Janaki
iLa vAlibanE varavENumenaS.P.Balasubramaniam / Jikki / S.P.Sailaja
nadarAjanin thiru nAttiya vEdamS.Janaki / Sunandha 
puthiya ulagilE chal chalS.P.Balasubramaniam / K.S.Chithra

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Post  BC Thu Sep 23, 2021 4:04 am

None was a hit in TN - the reason being it was just a dubbed version, but a chartbuster in AP (Aditya 369 - most probably India's first Sci-Fi movie).  

This was the movie Singeetam Srinivasa Rao was talking about (in the video link I mentioned in the "Anything about IR" thread) when referring to IR music being helpful and giving him cues on picturization!

Very surprised to find the Tamil jukebox on IR-O!



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Post  app_engine Thu Sep 23, 2021 4:47 pm

Passing that dubbing album.

Next poll is for "araNmaNaikkiLi" - most probably a super hit album. However, since only a few songs reached Kerala, I'm not sure about ALL songs.

I'll not be presumptuous and let the TN-ers confirm.


amman kOyil kumbam ingE [Title Song]Swarnalatha / Minmini / Chorus
adi poongkuyilE poongkuyilE kELuMano / Minmini / Chorus
rAmarai ninaikkum anumAruilaiyaRaaja / Chorus
vAnmathiyE vAnmathiyE thoothu sellu vAnmathiyES.Janaki
nattu vachcha rOsA chedi Oh mAmAP.Susheela / Chorus
rAsAvE unnai vidamAttEnS.Janaki
idhayamE pOguthE [thuNi mElE kAdhal kuRiyai]Krishnamoorthy
rAthiriyil pAdum pAttu kEtka kEtka AsaiyAchuMalaysia Vasudevan / Arunmozhi / Minmini / Chorus
yen thAyenum kOyilai kAkka maRanthitta pAviyadi kiLiyEilaiyaRaaja

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Post  Usha Thu Sep 23, 2021 7:05 pm

athanai paatum.. bus kaalam, gramam endru super hit dhan.

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Post  BC Fri Sep 24, 2021 1:30 am

app_engine wrote:Passing that dubbing album.

Next poll is for "araNmaNaikkiLi" - most probably a super hit album. However, since only a few songs reached Kerala, I'm not sure about ALL songs.

NO doubt!  It is just another superhit album.  Now, THAT is "F-O-L-K" music.

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Post  app_engine Fri Sep 24, 2021 9:44 pm

As per the overwhelming response of TN-ers, all 9 songs of araNmaNaikkiLi are getting added to our list, a truly super hit album! (Even the audio only #IR_Official_YT has million plus hits). 

One has to also take into account that this movie got released in 1993, though audio came in 1992. I mean if any idiot does this nonsense claim of "1992-field-out", AK album should be one of the 100's of answers for that. (That IR did 400+ movies AFTER 1992 does not seem to matter for such fellows who live in their own world).

#1459 amman kOyil kumbam ingE (Minmini-SL duet, araNmaNaikkiLi)
Terrific folk number, with all the accompaniments that IR is famed for! 

#1460 adi poonguyilE poonguyilE kELu (Minmini-Mano duet, araNmaNaikkiLi)
Evergreen, highly-repeated song! Terrific themmAngu and phenomenal orchestration!

#1461 rAmarai ninaikkum anumAru (IR with chorus, araNmaNaikkiLi)
Fun song, became hit possibly because of being part of a super hit album IMHO.

#1462 vAnmathiyE vAnmathiyE thoodhu sellu vAnmathiyE (SJ solo, araNmaNaikkiLi)
What a lovely SJ solo! Haunting number!!

#1463 nattu vachcha rOsA chedi (PS with chorus, araNmaNaikkiLi)
Quite a different song, not sure why IR chose PS for this!

#1464 rAsAvE unnai vidamAttEn (SJ solo, araNmaNaikkiLi)
SJ deserves a "world-class-singing" award for this song. (I don't want to belittle her by telling that she deserved NA)

#1465 thuNi mElE kAdhal kuRiyai (Krishnamoorthy solo, araNmaNaikkiLi)
Different voice - however, personally I don't think he is movie playback material Embarassed

#1466 rAththiryil pAdum pAttu (Minmini, AM, MV with chorus, araNmaNaikkiLi)
Love the MV portion in this song - which is quite average by IR standards, IMHO. Also, not a great fit to this album.

#1467 en thAyenum kOvilai (IR solo, araNmaNaikkiLi)
WHAT A SONG! No one ever comes any close to IR in singing ammA songs!

Moving on to another album - which I suspect was a super hit too (though I missed it upon arrival, enjoyed listening to this album many times in the internet era) - Barathan Smile


azhagE amuthE poonthendRal thAlAttumilaiyaRaaja
nal veeNai nAtham [azhagE amuthE] [Pathos]ilaiyaRaaja
pOttathellAm veRRi kalluMano / Chorus
vA vAthiyArE oru pAdam sollu vAthiyArEK.S.Chithra
punnagaiyil minsAram ilaiyaRaaja / S.Janaki

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Post  BC Sat Sep 25, 2021 2:00 am

Punnagayil minsaaram, Azhage amudhe and Pottathellaam vetrikkallu were superhits.  The other 2 songs are Tier-3 hits.

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Mio and Gaana have the jukebox: https://mio.to/album/Bharathan+%281992%29

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