First among the equals - S Janaki, who sang the best in rAsA music!

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Post  app_engine on Tue Sep 10, 2013 12:33 am

BTW, thanks to all the conspiracy systems in vogue today, after some more years, people will TOTALLY FORGET that SJ's major TFM career was due to the arrival of a force called IR.

As such, vijay TV claims her to be the "Main lady of SS program" which will probably the future reference about her in TN Laughing

In addition, every program of her will shove in some 'mArgazhiththingaL' and such stuff to make people believe that IR or no IR, SJ was ALWAYS a major force in TFM.

If not that is already the case, eventually people will TOTALLY FORGET her rise in 1976 to the top of TFM and what was her stature in TFM prior (nothing significant, except some 20-25 popular songs in 20+ years, some of them great like 'singAra vElanE' yet no significant presence ever).

nallA irukkattum Smile


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Re: First among the equals - S Janaki, who sang the best in rAsA music!

Post  app_engine on Tue Sep 10, 2013 12:47 am

One thing good - at least as of date, wikipedia has some mercy on rAsA Smile

S Janaki wiki page

Let me save some significant portions here - i.e. before someone edits that to suit Vijay TV kind of vested interests:


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Her turning point in Tamil films too came about the same time.The veteran composer S. M. Subbaiah Naidu had already composed music for the song " Singara velane vaa vaa…," in 1959 for the film " Konjum Salangai" and had already recorded the Nagaswaram piece of Karaikurichi Arunachalam and was trying many female playback singers for the song that should be sung matching it note for note.When he approached P. Leela ,she strongly recommended that he should try S. Janaki. The song became a sensational hit when the film was released in 1961. In the same year, Singer-composer, A. M. Rajah gave her a major break by getting her to sing two beautiful songs, "Oho Enthan Baby" and "Kalaiyum Neeye, Maalaiyum Neeye" with him in the film Then Nilavu(Producer: C. V. Sridhar), that too her singing for Vyjayanthimala.Rajah had already sung a few songs with her in the Malayala films and was impressed by her.Thereafter, she sang for some lovely songs for the music of the Viswanathan Ramamoorthy Duo also pairing with P.B.Srinivas in the films, Policekaran Mahal,Sumaithangi,Pasam, etc.However, she was still not really a regular singer in the Tamil films, but she was always there singing a few songs from time to time.

Them came the year 1976 when an unknown composer then, Ilaya Raja, composed music for his first film "Annakkikli".He chose S. Janaki to sing all the songs in this film - which became big hits. After his instant success that was followed by many films coming his way, Ilaya Raja decided to exploit her voice which had a wide range, good voice control with "melting, soft high notes", and the vocal acrobatics it was capable of, equally as a soloist as well as in duets. All the songs became top hits. It was the time, Vani Jayaram was the rising star , pushing P. Susheela almost to second place.But there onward S. Janaki surged ahead as the Queen of the South Indian film music world.

She sang in almost every major South Indian movie in from 1976-1999. She won several awards from government and private institutions during this period. She has a record of maximum singing compared to any other female singer in the Malayalam and Kannada film industry and she also holds the record of singing the most difficult song in South Films i.e. Shiva Shiva Ennada from the Kannada movie Hemavathi.[11]

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Re: First among the equals - S Janaki, who sang the best in rAsA music!

Post  D22_Malar on Tue Sep 10, 2013 10:39 am

Yes, I noticed it was as if they were all very much cautious not to even mention IR's name in any way what so ever. i thought 'Seriously!!?? Evil or Very Mad 

I felt like they were trying to take too much of a precaution not to bring up IR's name, probably was intending not to stir SJ, Given the halt between IR & SJ. purely, my guess.

Ella Pughazhum Vijaytvkke!!

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Post  Usha on Wed Oct 09, 2013 4:39 pm

Parathen Pon manam  -  Agni paarvai.

so sweet. so much affection.. soulful Renditiion of SJ..............


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Re: First among the equals - S Janaki, who sang the best in rAsA music!

Post  Usha on Tue Feb 25, 2014 3:52 pm

Narumana malar - Urankadha Ninaivugal   --  Singing Style... Solla varthai ilai............

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OWI6sdpLi4

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Post  Drunkenmunk on Tue Feb 25, 2014 4:44 pm

Usha wrote:Narumana malar - Urankadha Ninaivugal   --  Singing Style... Solla varthai ilai............

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OWI6sdpLi4

Glad he's released a video Smile Rajsmed vAzhga. Also, romba peethara mAri irundhAlum paravA illa. avara upload seyya vechadhu idhu dhAn: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYc2vA7Oa4A (check comments Smile )

I found this song through Rajendra Kumar's Apoorva Ragam blog. Credit to him.

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Re: First among the equals - S Janaki, who sang the best in rAsA music!

Post  Usha on Tue Feb 25, 2014 4:58 pm

Drunkenmunk wrote:
Usha wrote:Narumana malar - Urankadha Ninaivugal   --  Singing Style... Solla varthai ilai............

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OWI6sdpLi4

Glad he's released a video :)Rajsmed vAzhga. Also, romba peethara mAri irundhAlum paravA illa. avara upload seyya vechadhu idhu dhAn: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYc2vA7Oa4A (check comments Smile)

I found this song through Rajendra Kumar's Apoorva Ragam blog. Credit to him.

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iruken.. romba varusham acha.. yar enna nu marandhu pochu.. inniki edherchaiya parthen... adhan post panninen.........sss.

Rajsmed vaazhga.........

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Post  Usha on Tue Feb 25, 2014 4:59 pm

http://ragamanjari.blogspot.in/2012/04/virtuous-innovation.html

Jog nu Solli irukar..............

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Re: First among the equals - S Janaki, who sang the best in rAsA music!

Post  app_engine on Wed Apr 23, 2014 5:11 pm

Nice blog post on SJ


எனக்கு பத்து வயதிருக்கையில் பெரிய அக்காவை கடுப்பேற்ற ஒரு எளிய வழி இருந்தது. எஸ்.ஜானகியைப் பற்றி எதாவது குறை சொல்வது! அக்கா உடனடியாக சரணடைந்து விடுவாள். ஒரு நாள் தொடர்ந்து கடுப்பேற்றி, கிட்டதட்ட அழவைத்திருக்கிறேன். அவளை வென்றுவிட்டாலும், ‘இப்படி அபரிதமான ஒரு ரசிப்பா‘ என்று ஆச்சரியமாக இருக்கும். அதன் பின்னர் கல்லூரியில் ஒரு நாள் தோழியொருத்தி, ‘உலகத்திலேயே எனக்குப் பிடிக்காத பாடகி ஒருவர் உண்டென்றால், அது எஸ்.ஜானகி தான்!’ என்று சொல்ல, ‘என்னது?’ என்று வியப்பிலும் அதிர்ச்சியிலும் எழுந்து நின்றுவிட்டேன். பழைய நிலையிலிருந்து இந்தப் புதிய நிலையை நான் வந்தடைந்த வழியில் பல நூறு எஸ்.ஜானகியின் பாடல்கள்!

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Re: First among the equals - S Janaki, who sang the best in rAsA music!

Post  counterpoint on Thu Apr 24, 2014 8:11 am

SJ sang best for Raja, agreed, but upto late 80s. After that,
 she made the mark in selected songs and missed it in several others. I wish quite a few of the songs that went her way in the 90s went to either Swarnalatha or Chitra or Sujatha. Case in point-Munnam seidha dhavam from Vanaja Girija. The shrillness of her aging voice reduces the impact instantly. Chitra or Swarna would have made the song an instant classic. Theemergence of new singers in the 90s made SJ's voice sound even older in comparison.

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Re: First among the equals - S Janaki, who sang the best in rAsA music!

Post  app_engine on Tue Oct 14, 2014 6:01 pm

During the recent super singer junior episode with SPB (in which SJ too joined later), he kept referring to her as 'rAtchasi' (comparing her to the 'rAtchasan' rAsA).

This morning drive had 'AgAya gangai' song playing and I had to select "repeat" Smile

Songs like this underline SPB's statement as to why she is a rAtchasi!

Right from the humming in the prelude, where she efforlessly switches to semi-classical style from western, the song is a SJ celebration IMHO.

I've posted previously about SJ's voice getting morphed into a solo violin in the second interlude - while it showcases rAsA's mastery, it also underlines how SJ's voice is so friendly to well orchestrated songs!

There's this akkiramamAna kuRumbuchchirippu in second saraNam when she sings "தேவை யாவும் தீ...ர்ந்த பின்னும்" Embarassed the clap

Ask any other female singer to ace it like the way she does!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1lRlbdl4EE

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Re: First among the equals - S Janaki, who sang the best in rAsA music!

Post  Drunkenmunk on Mon Nov 10, 2014 10:10 am

Uploaded a YT video (basically audio) with 1 hr and 48 mins of S Janaki humming in IR's music. Compiled 108 songs and spliced them while Prasanna Venkatesan (PrasannaR_ in the forum iirc and @PrasannaR_ on twitter) helped stitch 101 of those different song portions with her hums into a single audio and I added 7 songs which I found last week to make 108 songs. Labor of love took 2 weeks. Do listen Smile


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Re: First among the equals - S Janaki, who sang the best in rAsA music!

Post  app_engine on Mon Nov 10, 2014 7:02 pm

Fantastic effort, DM!

the clap

Enjoying listening to the youtube right now!

Awesome!

If at all I come across anything not included in this exercise, I'll tweet you / post here Smile

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Post  V_S on Mon Nov 10, 2014 7:02 pm

OMG! What an effort!! applause Thanks a lot DM and PrasannaR_. This should be one memorable list of all times.

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Re: First among the equals - S Janaki, who sang the best in rAsA music!

Post  Usha on Wed Nov 19, 2014 9:14 am

Thanks for the upload DM... inum complete aga kaetkavilai. kaetu vittu solgiren........

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Re: First among the equals - S Janaki, who sang the best in rAsA music!

Post  Usha on Wed Nov 19, 2014 9:14 am

Janaki shrill voice


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XsZ9asEjaw

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Re: First among the equals - S Janaki, who sang the best in rAsA music!

Post  app_engine on Fri Nov 21, 2014 5:56 pm

சிலபல நாட்களாக "மழை வருவது மயிலுக்குத்தெரியும்" பாடல் வண்டியில் மீண்டும் மீண்டும் ஓடிக்கொண்டிருக்கிறது.

பாடலை ரசிப்பதில் நான் செய்யும் சேஷ்டைகள் (தலை / கை / உடல் ஆட்டல்கள்) வண்டியில் வரும் 8 வயதினளுக்கு வேடிக்கையாக இருந்ததால் மாற்றச்சொல்லாமல் கேட்கத்தொடங்கி, இப்போது அவளே பாடலை ரசிக்கத் தொடங்கி விட்டது ரசகரமான ஒன்று Smile

எக்ஸ்ப்ரஸ் வேகத்தில் செல்லும் பாடலில் தன்னுடைய எக்ஸ்ப்ரெஷன் சற்றும் குறையாமல் அடித்துத்தள்ளும் ஜானகி பெரிய பலம்!

(இரண்டாம் சரணத்தில் தொடக்கத்தில் வரும் "மயங்குகிறாள்" என்ற சொல் முதல் முறை வரும் போது அவர் அனாயாசமாகக் குரலை மென்மைப்படுத்தவது 'ஒரு சோறு பதம்')

பாடலை இங்கே பாருங்கள் - இதன் முக இசை, இடை இசைகளைக்குறித்து அதற்குரிய இழையில் விரிவாகப் பேசவேண்டி இருக்கிறது...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQt6eXsGONI&t=5520s

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Re: First among the equals - S Janaki, who sang the best in rAsA music!

Post  Usha on Sat Nov 22, 2014 12:11 pm

app_engine wrote:சிலபல நாட்களாக "மழை வருவது மயிலுக்குத்தெரியும்" பாடல் வண்டியில் மீண்டும் மீண்டும் ஓடிக்கொண்டிருக்கிறது.

பாடலை ரசிப்பதில் நான் செய்யும் சேஷ்டைகள் (தலை / கை / உடல் ஆட்டல்கள்) வண்டியில் வரும் 8 வயதினளுக்கு வேடிக்கையாக இருந்ததால் மாற்றச்சொல்லாமல் கேட்கத்தொடங்கி, இப்போது அவளே பாடலை ரசிக்கத் தொடங்கி விட்டது ரசகரமான ஒன்று Smile

எக்ஸ்ப்ரஸ் வேகத்தில் செல்லும் பாடலில் தன்னுடைய எக்ஸ்ப்ரெஷன் சற்றும் குறையாமல் அடித்துத்தள்ளும் ஜானகி பெரிய பலம்!

(இரண்டாம் சரணத்தில் தொடக்கத்தில் வரும் "மயங்குகிறாள்" என்ற சொல் முதல் முறை வரும் போது அவர் அனாயாசமாகக் குரலை மென்மைப்படுத்தவது 'ஒரு சோறு பதம்')

பாடலை இங்கே பாருங்கள் - இதன் முக இசை, இடை இசைகளைக்குறித்து அதற்குரிய இழையில் விரிவாகப் பேசவேண்டி இருக்கிறது...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQt6eXsGONI&t=5520s

Greatest compositiion app...... amma.. feelings.. IR is  the Real King........   Lyric.. Character.. Situation.. Feelings... Expressions. Really amazing.......

indha paatu.. ellavatrilum uyarndha ondru.............  yerkanave solli iruken...... en personal life ... en paiyan ragalai.. misunderstaing.....  avan valarum
podhu therindhu konden.. ennai pola thana avanum endru.........  udane indha padam than ninaivil vandhadhu......... Very Happy

avan college .. hostel...  endru sendra kalathil.. indha paatu dhan en callertune aga vaithu konden..... paiyan oru naal kaetan.. idhu enna paatu. enna situation endru.. kadhaiyai sonnen......... indha paataiyae vechuko endru permission kidaithadhu.......... engalin pasam... oru Bridge.. indha paatu dhan........

ipodhum.. avan friends udan solli kolvan.(Pround with chellam). indha paatuku.. en amma romba paithiyam endru............  idhu en anubavam.

en amma - iraka pogum sila madhangaluku mun dhan thannuiya feelings.. indha paatin mel.. thannudaiya magan..  (CSR kaga than.. ) indha paatai romba pidikum endru.. annavn PUC time adhu....... ipadi.. 2 thalaimuraikaga pasathin)Ordinary  pasam illai idhu.. sandai.. ragalai.. anal pasam enbadhu pondra oru situation.....) oru velipadaga... Soulful Composer IR....... adharkaga avaruku Thalai vanangukiren............

indha padalai sonnadharku Nanri app.........

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Re: First among the equals - S Janaki, who sang the best in rAsA music!

Post  Vinayzmusic on Thu Dec 04, 2014 12:53 am

Hi Drunkenmunk ,

  Please find a similar video with Alaaps/Hummings of Janaki amma (some songs here are from other Md's also) .. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjb3kMNSNEI


If you are seriously looking for some more alaaps/hummings of SJ in IR's music, I can assure you more Smile I will go through complete listening and will get back. Your idea and effort, both r awesome!

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Post  Drunkenmunk on Thu Dec 04, 2014 7:36 am

Vinayzmusic wrote:Hi Drunkenmunk ,

  Please find a similar video with Alaaps/Hummings of Janaki amma (some songs here are from other Md's also) .. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjb3kMNSNEI


If you are seriously looking for some more alaaps/hummings of SJ in IR's music, I can assure you more Smile I will go through complete listening and will get back. Your idea and effort, both r awesome!
Thank you Vinayzmusic. The aim was to make a list (tough to be complete) of SJ's hums in IR's music. Haven't thought about her complete list Smile

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Re: First among the equals - S Janaki, who sang the best in rAsA music!

Post  Vinayzmusic on Thu Dec 04, 2014 10:52 pm

Please find list of Solos that were missing .. I wanted to compile 50 as of now, we can add later as well.. I did not start on Duets yet .. It will be a big list Smile 

Tamil
(1) Vanna Vanna Pooncholayil - Pootaadha Pootukkal (My Favmost)
(2) En Jeevan Paduthu
(3) Ennathil edo - - Kallukkul Earam
(4) Inimel Naalum - Iravu Pookkal 
(5) MaamaMaalai-AmbigaiNerilVanthaal 
(6) Mouna Ragam - Kolangal
(7) Udhayam Neeye - En Arugil Nee Irundhaal 
( 8 ) Ninaikaadha Neramillai - Thanga Kili
( 9 ) Then Thoongum Poove - Kodai Mazhai
(10) Malare Malre Ullasam - Un Kannil Neer Vazhinthaal
(11) Azhagu Mlar Aada - Vaidegi kathirundhal
(12) Isai Paadum Nee - Isai Padum Thendral
(13) Ola Kudasayile - Ore Oru Gramathile
(14) Maanda Kodi - Muthal Vasantham
(15) Moonam Piraynile - Manitha Jaathi
(16) Enna Padacholalde - Aan Paavam
(17) Rasave Unnai Vidamatten - Aramanai Kili
(18) Abhinayam  kaattu - Vidiyum varai kaaththiru 
(19) Then Kulathile Kulikava - Ezhuthatha Sattankal 
(20) Uyire uravil kalandhae - Mella Pesungal 
(21) Paarthen Pon Manam  - Agni Parvai 
(22) En Nenjam Unnodu Un Nenjam Ennodu - Rusi Kanda Poonai
(23) Vanjikodi Poovaanathu -Inimai Itho Itho 
(24)  Poongkuyil - Thazhuvaatha Kaigal 
(25) Thaane Sadhiraadum - ThaipPongal 
(26) KuyiluKuyiluIthuKaatuKuyil - Selvi  
(27) Raathirineram - Anbu Kattalai -
(28)Yaar Mamano - Vetrikku Oruvan 
(29) Ennai Nee -Maragatha Veenai -
(30) Puthu Vannangal - Murattu Kaalai 
(31) Entha Poovilum - Murattu Kaalai 
(32) Athikaalai Katre Nillu -  Thalaivaasal 
(33) Sotthu sugam ethanayo unnidathil- Saavi 
(34) Koodu Thedi - Naalai Unathu Naal 
(35) Aaduthu Ullam - Kavari Maan
(36) Ninaithaal Inikum - Kalyanaraman
(37) En Degam Amudham - Oru Odai Nadhiyagiradu
(38) Enthan Kannil - Guru
(39) Athimara Poovidu - Saadanai 

Telugu
(40) Nee Gaanam - Sithara
(41) Piliche Kuhu Kuhu Vayase - Killer
(42) Neerainaanu Nippainaanu - Pancha Bhoothalu
(43) Aakasamlo - Swarna Kamalam
(44) Evevo Kalalu Kannanu - Jwala
(45) Amavasya Reyi - Pattudala
(46) Ilalo kalise Sidhilaakasamu - Anveshana 
(47) Ammakade bujji kada naapai kopama - Manthri gari Viyyankudu

Kannada
(48) Nanna Muddina - Nee Nanna Gellalare

Malayalam
(49) Thanal Virikan - Alolam
(50) Paalaruvi Paadivaru - Dooram Arike

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Re: First among the equals - S Janaki, who sang the best in rAsA music!

Post  Drunkenmunk on Fri Dec 05, 2014 7:38 am

Good job. Like I said, a complete list will run up to a few hrs Smile Glad to see that the effort has kicked off interest Smile

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Re: First among the equals - S Janaki, who sang the best in rAsA music!

Post  app_engine on Fri Dec 05, 2014 8:47 am

Don't miss this kid's "சின்னச்சின்ன வண்ணக் குவில் " Laughing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQ7vFnakVXQ&t=225s

Child to aNNAchchi : "அது ஜானி பாட்டி, ஜானு பாட்டி இல்ல" Laughing

BTW, also a pointer to current relevance of IR-SJ to TN pAmarakkoottam Smile

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Re: First among the equals - S Janaki, who sang the best in rAsA music!

Post  app_engine on Fri Dec 05, 2014 10:51 pm

Got introduced to this website in twitter:
http://ilayaraja.in/

Listened to nizhalgaL album, as a "test ride".

As I frequently listen to the first 3 during my drives, I found the fourth a lot more charming today Smile

http://ilayaraja.in/ilayaraja-tamil-songs.php?name=N

WOW, no less than the other three!

SJ at her best!

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Re: First among the equals - S Janaki, who sang the best in rAsA music!

Post  app_engine on Tue Mar 22, 2016 7:34 pm

I don't remember "fully" listening to the 4th song of nenjaththaikkiLLAdhE movie ever before.
(The other three are not hard to guess - uRavenum pudhiya vAnil, paruvamE pudhiya pAdal pAdu & E thenRalE).

Even when watching the movie (for the first time, on youtube only), I remember FF-ing the song.

That way, probably this morning was the first time I listened to this song 100% (on raajafm.com during the morning commute).

Since I've read before on tfmpage (and also seen SJ singing a few lines on super singer), I know she is the singer.

OTHERWISE, I couldn't have guessed at all! Not even a small trace of SJ-voice IMHO Embarassed Embarassed Embarassed

Quite an achievement!

For audio only, please use this inreco youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0o63yBXrBo

It suits the boy on screen perfectly, one can watch the video here (as part of the movie):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGXYe5GecUE&t=4680s

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