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Manadhil oru paattu - Song of the moment - Vol 1

Post  kv on Tue Oct 23, 2012 7:49 pm

Mudhal mariyadhai to Raaja, to this new place and its creator!   cheers

Eh kili irukku pazham irukku
Folk - simple, authentic, fun, rustic and infectious!

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Post  V_S on Tue Oct 23, 2012 8:27 pm

Wow! Thanks KV for signing in. All credit to grouch.
What a great composition to start with! yes, infectious, the singing is top class. Instruments used in this song sounds very native to the area. Since the time when I listened to this soundtrack first time during my school days till today, this soundtrack has never looked old, it was as if composed today. Freshness to the core!

I recently stumbled upon another folk masterpiece Poo Nilavonnu from Kizhakkum Merkum. Free flowing tune with some great arrangements. Please hear it in thiraipaadal.
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On Kanakku thaan thappaachamma from Raja Kaiyya vechcha

Post  jaiganesh on Thu Oct 25, 2012 4:59 pm

Now this is a typical situation - hero "kindaling"(teasing - yeah - we indian males harbor typical wet dreams of teasing the girl we covet at the max.. ;-)) the heroine. So the song begins in a typical folk fashion for the first two lines..
"On kanakku thaan thappaachamma
En kanakkil dhaan thappedhamma"
But from line 3 it moves into jazz and blues
"rajjaavun mela aaa kaiyyaa vechchaaa aaah"
listen to the guitar that signals this shift.
And then as if some one turned the lights on in a dark room, the song goes into qawwali mode and then
back to folk and then suddenly to Rock and roll with
"Aaththi aththippooo" sung fast and neat by surprisingly chirpy Mano who seems to have caught the tiger's tail pretty tight.

I am glad that ILaiyaraaja decided to become a music composer - imagine the ride if he had become a 'roller coaster' designer (pretty scary)..

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Post  V_S on Thu Oct 25, 2012 6:53 pm

VaangO Jai. Welcome! Beautiful song to start with, from Raja kayya vechcha. UngaL sEvai thodarattum.Smile

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Re: Manadhil oru paattu - Song of the moment - Vol 1

Post  jaiganesh on Thu Oct 25, 2012 7:28 pm

just listening to 'Manikkuyil isaikkudhadi" from thanga manasukkaaran (namma raasa pola).
The second interlude suddenly launches into a gush that reminds one of the awesome first interlude of 'thangaaLiyalli' and i had goose flesh all over me... Mano was the destroyer in chief again - It called out for SPB for the 'Manamadhil mayangudhadi' part.
barring that the song is a delight.. hearing it after a long long time.. hope suresh includes it in his '90s raja' writeup..

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Post  app_engine on Thu Oct 25, 2012 8:22 pm

jaiganesh wrote:hope suresh includes it in his '90s raja' writeup..

அவர் ரொம்ப பிசியா இருக்காருன்னு நெனைக்கிறேன்.

மேலும் அவர் இங்க எழுதுவாரா இல்லை அங்கேயே தொடர்வாரா என்பதும் தெரியாது Smile

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Re: Manadhil oru paattu - Song of the moment - Vol 1

Post  jaiganesh on Thu Oct 25, 2012 8:50 pm

let me take the risk of venturing into tuitter.

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Ullen Ayya

Post  Raaga_Suresh on Thu Oct 25, 2012 9:28 pm

This is to say that I have registered and I am very much here. Just that things are hectic here. This weekend also looks packed. So maybe from Monday will start contributing. I am planning to get the 90s series here and continue from where I left there.

BTW, I have left my chikan65 avatar there. It will be my twitter handle here Very Happy

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Post  app_engine on Thu Oct 25, 2012 11:14 pm

வாங்க சுரேஷ்ஜி!

நல்வரவு!

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Re: Manadhil oru paattu - Song of the moment - Vol 1

Post  jaiganesh on Mon Oct 29, 2012 3:37 am

kannammaa kaadhal enum kavidhai solladi..
The perfect song .
A big load of why it is perfect is because of the lead singer (someone called ilaiyaraaja).
This is an ageless voice - the emotions the voice carries is the right bridge between the awesome music and fantastic lyrics..
Raaja with Janaki - what a pair they are - second only to SPB and janaki.
this is one song that can make any listener crazy addict for the rest of their life..

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Re: Manadhil oru paattu - Song of the moment - Vol 1

Post  V_S on Mon Oct 29, 2012 6:38 am

After seeing Canada concert promos on Vijay TV, I can't stop listening to Pottu Vaitha from Idhayam. Such a heart warming song with some unexplainable feeling. After seeing the film, I believe everyone will want to fall in love. How many times we would have cried for the film's BGM? Where are such films now and where are such songs today?

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Post  Admin on Wed Oct 31, 2012 8:55 am

Rediscovering this song. You guys are better in describing it; been looping since yesterday. One more for the baby...



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Re: Manadhil oru paattu - Song of the moment - Vol 1

Post  V_S on Fri Nov 02, 2012 5:44 pm

I have been continuously listening to this beauty after Rex had posted one of this interlude in his quiz. One of P Susheela's best song. Totally out of her comfort zone.The way she ends the anu-pallavi, ahA arputham!

nilavu naeram iravu kaayum
vaanilae aayiram veLLi
vaadudhu malligaip paLLi ingae
avanai azaiththaen vaaraanO..haa

Terrific interludes, three of them. Sax going bonkers!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzKF1KLnpoE

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Re: Manadhil oru paattu - Song of the moment - Vol 1

Post  kv on Fri Nov 02, 2012 8:39 pm

v_sji, this one's a terrific song! I haven't heard the thamizh version so far but the gult version is there on my playlist. (Which one's the original and which dub? V_S, plum, suresh, evvaraina cheppandi.) The guitar and bass work in this song is godawesome and boy, those killer interludes, that's raasa in kaattumirandi mode! That little transition in the basslines at the end of the charanams just before she starts 'prEma bEram', the takeoff (along with the rap portion) in the 3rd interlude and the slide towards its end.. too many gooseflesh moments!
Not a single Indian composer I've listened to so far, across languages and time periods, has written basslines like this man. The beauty, variety and depth in ideas, nobody comes anywhere close to him in this dept, in my books. And that bassie in Raaja's orchestra, one bloody blessed soul I tell ya!

Telugu version: prEma bEram theerchi nEram
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJA6js36B6w

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Post  V_S on Fri Nov 02, 2012 8:58 pm

Yes killer bass tracks! I believe these would have been played by Sada/Sashee sir. The problem is people take all this for granted and just conclude him as he knows western classical and folk. Is that it? Only question one might ask is, what he does not master(not even know)? If you just take these club songs, it might fill you for days. Starting from Vaa NaaLukku NaaL, Aadalil Paadalil, Mayakkama, Solla Solla, Adi Rani Mangamma, Disco King, Disco Song, Baby O Baby, Pala Raathri, Kholapurase, PaattengE and the list goes on. Even in this 'club genre, we can see the variety, depth (as you said).

Thamizh version is original as it is from Annai Oor Aalayam (DEvar films, Rajinikanth starrer) which was dubbed into Telugu as Amma Evarikaina Amma which had the song you mentioned. May be both released at the same time.

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Post  kv on Fri Nov 02, 2012 9:16 pm

Absolutely! Thanks to finders keepers for 'solla solla' we got to listen to a good number of such club songs in great audio quality. Wish they release more compilations of Raaja.

#Nowplaying: 'vEl muruganukku mottai' from 'puyal paadum paattu'. super freaky!
http://www.thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer.asp?sngs='SNGIRR2991'&lang=en

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Post  V_S on Fri Nov 02, 2012 9:26 pm

Yes thanks to finders keepers and Bombay Connection for another compilation soundtrack 'Fire Power - Synth Pop songs of Ilaiyaraaja'. I believe you have it (uploaded sometime back).

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Re: Manadhil oru paattu - Song of the moment - Vol 1

Post  Bala (Karthik) on Mon Nov 05, 2012 7:56 pm



#Nowplaying: 'vEl muruganukku mottai' from 'puyal paadum paattu'. super freaky!
http://www.thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer.asp?sngs='SNGIRR2991'&lang=en
Regular in my playlist. Yes, freaky funky max. Relentless guitar awesomeness and Malaysia Annan is da man

Last song: Pichai paathiram (mind voice playing Madhu B version), going to listen to Swamigal version now. Totally f-ed up day on all possible fronts. Rasaiyyan isai thunai amen :auu:

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Post  Bala (Karthik) on Mon Nov 05, 2012 8:38 pm

Virumaandi album. The sheer f-ing brilliance of this album. Lost on our music lovezhs. Avan avan seidha vinai

P.S: What courage from both these guys. Tremendous trust as well (or leap of faith )

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Post  plum on Thu Nov 08, 2012 8:36 pm

Was travelling back home from airport today in a Call Taxi. Radiola orE Raja pAttA pOikittirundhudhu. Driver seemed to be intently listening. nAn oNNum pEsalai. After a basket of Raja songs, suddenly tehre was a "enakkena piRandhava" slipped in. Driver immediately changed the channel - after keeping him in observation till then, immediately I recognized that ivan namma paya Laughing and asked

Me: ninga ilayaraja fanA
Him: (full of smile and happiness) AmAm saar. avar pAttu dhAn saar manasuku idhamA irukkum
(The mean streak in me was still suspicious - wanted to test him further. oru vElai idhamana pAttu rasiganO, without any discernment in music appreciation)
Me:appO En Raja pAttai mAththinInga
Him: endha pAttu saar? Rolling Eyes
Me: ippO mAthiningale "enakkena pirandhava"
Him: illai saar, adhu avar pAttu mAdhri illai
Me: illainga adhu RAja pAttu dhAN. idhukku munnAdi kEttadhillaiyA? enna padam theriyumA? Prabu padam. K Balu eduthadhu. avarukku eppOvumE Raja dhAn music
Him: illai saar kEttadhillai but adhu avar pAttu mAdhiri illai saar
Me: oh appO theriyAmalE Raja pAttu illainu mudivu paNNittIngaLA?
Him: ennamO saar, enakku apdi thONuchu.
Me: edhai vechu solRInga Raja pAttillainu?
Him: adhellAM enakku theriyAdhu saar. nAn oru pAmaran, sAdharaNa rasigan enakku adhu Raja saar pattu madhiri thONAlai

Me: (Triumphantly) nee rasigEndA! indha pidi aayiram poRkAsugaL!


The reason I am quoting this is in that forum, we are used to certian political beings claiming to be pAmarans and therefore unable to distinguish Deva and Raja. (basically they have an agenda to promote non-IR and use the pAmaran label for that). And here was a man who has no musical pretense but is able to still identify the Raja signature and calling himself a pAmaran.

I think this is what is true rasippu thanmai. The ability to atleast identify your taste in your heart even if you are not able to articulate it. It also speaks about how Raja's music speaks to hearts of people. evLO Rajavai uL vAngi irundhA, andha isai ilakkaNam theriyadha sAdhAraNA rasigan avLO accurateA annappaRavai pOla paguthaRiya mudium?

Shouldnt our web aaivekkadus who claim to be unable to differentiate between Deva and RAja be ashamed of themselves? And on top of that stelaing the pAmaran label for themselves. Basically, to me this guy is a proper pAmara isai rasigan. He doesnt know music grammar but he is an ordinary pAmara rasigan who knows exactly what he appreciates.

endha music perusungaradhu mukkiyam illai. rasippula oru underlying ability to discerrn vENum. One cannot hide under the pOrvai of pAmaran and use that to justify lack of discerning and lack of discrimination.

What a wonderful night! Tried to tip that feller extra. He refused it.

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Post  plum on Thu Nov 08, 2012 8:40 pm

The thing that I am specifically referring here is the rebuttal I usually get to saying that it is alway spossible to differentiat ebetweeen IR and cheap quality imitations of IR. THey say "But Plum you are a hard core fan of IR and a meesical so you can differentiate but we pAmarans cannot differntiate that much".

My message to thosee folks is "no you arent the pAmara rasigan. YOu arent even a isai rasigan. A true pAmara rasigan is like that call taxi driver, who can differentiate an ddiscern even though he cannot articulate. Dont even try to call yourself pAmara rasigan or even rasigan"

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Post  V_S on Thu Nov 08, 2012 9:50 pm

Plum,
Nach! cheers Nicely articulated. Really enjoyed reading it. Happy for him. I can relate to many of my friends like this back in my town who can clearly distinguish between IR and DEva within a second. kEtta udanE solliduvaanga.

plum wrote:
Me: edhai vechu solRInga Raja pAttillainu?
Him: adhellAM enakku theriyAdhu saar. nAn oru pAmaran, sAdharaNa rasigan enakku adhu Raja saar pattu madhiri thONAlai
Me: (Triumphantly) nee rasigEndA! indha pidi aayiram poRkAsugaL!

Coming to the point, avara congratulate panneengaLa. Andha paattu DEva thaan'nu sonneengaLa? Smile

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Post  Bala (Karthik) on Fri Nov 09, 2012 4:43 am

plum wrote:Was travelling back home from airport today in a Call Taxi. Radiola orE Raja pAttA pOikittirundhudhu. Driver seemed to be intently listening. nAn oNNum pEsalai. After a basket of Raja songs, suddenly tehre was a "enakkena piRandhava" slipped in. Driver immediately changed the channel - after keeping him in observation till then, immediately I recognized that ivan namma paya Laughing and asked

Me: ninga ilayaraja fanA
Him: (full of smile and happiness) AmAm saar. avar pAttu dhAn saar manasuku idhamA irukkum
(The mean streak in me was still suspicious - wanted to test him further. oru vElai idhamana pAttu rasiganO, without any discernment in music appreciation)
Me:appO En Raja pAttai mAththinInga
Him: endha pAttu saar? Rolling Eyes
Me: ippO mAthiningale "enakkena pirandhava"
Him: illai saar, adhu avar pAttu mAdhri illai
Me: illainga adhu RAja pAttu dhAN. idhukku munnAdi kEttadhillaiyA? enna padam theriyumA? Prabu padam. K Balu eduthadhu. avarukku eppOvumE Raja dhAn music
Him: illai saar kEttadhillai but adhu avar pAttu mAdhiri illai saar
Me: oh appO theriyAmalE Raja pAttu illainu mudivu paNNittIngaLA?
Him: ennamO saar, enakku apdi thONuchu.
Me: edhai vechu solRInga Raja pAttillainu?
Him: adhellAM enakku theriyAdhu saar. nAn oru pAmaran, sAdharaNa rasigan enakku adhu Raja saar pattu madhiri thONAlai

Me: (Triumphantly) nee rasigEndA! indha pidi aayiram poRkAsugaL!


The reason I am quoting this is in that forum, we are used to certian political beings claiming to be pAmarans and therefore unable to distinguish Deva and Raja. (basically they have an agenda to promote non-IR and use the pAmaran label for that). And here was a man who has no musical pretense but is able to still identify the Raja signature and calling himself a pAmaran.

I think this is what is true rasippu thanmai. The ability to atleast identify your taste in your heart even if you are not able to articulate it. It also speaks about how Raja's music speaks to hearts of people. evLO Rajavai uL vAngi irundhA, andha isai ilakkaNam theriyadha sAdhAraNA rasigan avLO accurateA annappaRavai pOla paguthaRiya mudium?

Shouldnt our web aaivekkadus who claim to be unable to differentiate between Deva and RAja be ashamed of themselves? And on top of that stelaing the pAmaran label for themselves. Basically, to me this guy is a proper pAmara isai rasigan. He doesnt know music grammar but he is an ordinary pAmara rasigan who knows exactly what he appreciates.

endha music perusungaradhu mukkiyam illai. rasippula oru underlying ability to discerrn vENum. One cannot hide under the pOrvai of pAmaran and use that to justify lack of discerning and lack of discrimination.

What a wonderful night! Tried to tip that feller extra. He refused it.
மகிழ்ச்சி, நெகிழ்ச்சி Very Happy

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Re: Manadhil oru paattu - Song of the moment - Vol 1

Post  Bala (Karthik) on Fri Nov 09, 2012 4:53 am

ஆபிஸ்-கு வரும்போது ரயிலில் கேட்டது:

ஆயிரம் தாமரை மொட்டுக்களே - Genre bending, subversion done and tossed aside
அரிதாரத்த பூசிக்கொள்ள ஆச - this is story telling
சந்திரரும் சூரியனும் - example of instruments or genre not being a hindrance to narrative integrity
வாயக்கட்டி வயித்தக்கட்டி (சொல்ல துடிக்குது மனசு) - revisited this recently on TV - Abdul Hameed program on Jaya TV with lyricist (mu.Metha or Pulamaippithan?)


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Post  jaiganesh on Fri Nov 09, 2012 4:58 am

plum..
aani adichutteenga..
aani pudungravangallaam pudunga mudiyaadha aani idhu..
umadhu thiruvilayaadalgaLil idhuvum ondro?

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