Perils of being a choreographer to IR's songs

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Perils of being a choreographer to IR's songs

Post  app_engine on Fri Aug 25, 2017 6:08 pm

As my close associates of the last few years come from Punjabi background, many social gatherings in recent years had dancing as a necessary ingredient with bhAngrA as mainstay. (One old man from the group happened to be the first-ever president of Michigan Sikh society and was head of a bhangra team that traveled all around).

Honestly, I'm not a fan of such loud music & the 4/4 boring rhythm beats but enjoy the association of some of the nicest people I've been around with - and thus had been pushed into dancing with the gumbal (end up walking in circles with raising hand pointing a finger to sky and then dropping to shoulder level, in rhythm with the beats Laughing ).  

Quite often, I'll be asked to play some "south indian" song to which the group can dance and that proves to be my moment of total confusion / being lost each time Sad

Well, most of the time my kid will grab the opportunity to have her way and play some selfie-puLLa kind of idiotic number to which the group will happily dance, making me rush to a corner of the hall - wondering why I'm here Laughing

The reason for me getting lost is the unfortunate fact that most IR songs that I like are not "that friendly" to choreograph, for such groups Embarassed.

I mean, they are not like bhangra, where every one can keep dancing without much effort for the whole song. I normally attribute this phenomenon to "IR-getting-bored-like-me" to unchanging beats.

Musing on this line led me to wonder how would have the movie choreographers felt - when they had to do their job for IR songs. Especially when they knew that most of the lead actors / actresses weren't great dancers or the milieu itself was horrible plus pressures from director / producer to accommodate group dances / settings / disti wishes / fan wishes etc.

On top of all those, IR gave them really complex music, with continuously varying rhythm patterns / changes.  Coupled with lyrics that are hardly inspiring.

Let me pick some songs where the job of dance master could have been a nightmare.

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Re: Perils of being a choreographer to IR's songs

Post  app_engine on Fri Aug 25, 2017 7:39 pm

Before I dwell into the details of why this must be a terror for the stunt / dance master, let me list some terrific / terrible things about this number Smile

- New find for me, listened to it for the first time only this week and currently on "repeat" (possibly heard before but never paid attention; happens to be in the MP3 CD that also contains the "guNdu onnu vachchirukkEn" number that I wrote about in the current song thread last week)

- Mano song where he struggles as usual but SJ is phenomenal and more than compensates for him Smile  One has to write a whole article about SJ's singing in this number!  Whoever listens to this number has to pay close attention to her giggle in the pallavi between saraNams Wink WOW - whatta singer!

- The song's boss is of course "bass". I'm not technically qualified to write about it - but please listen to just the bass leaving out everything else in this song and you're sure to fly!

- The brass section is typical IR - fantastic. So are the synth sounds! Listen to the keyboard atrocity towards the end of second interlude and also the "elephant trumpeting" like sound that comes in the background during saraNams - OOW

- kuppai lyrics (by Piraisoodan) - ராஜா-ரோஜா, ராணி-மேனி, மந்திரம்-தந்திரம், தத்தை-மெத்தை-வித்தை etc. are all he could offer & these must have been repeated 1000 times in TFM

- My most fav part of the melody is for anupallavi - so sweet : "நேரம் நல்ல நேரம் - தென்றலோடு நீ பாடு / காலம் நல்ல காலம் - கைகள் கோர்த்து நீ ஆடு"

Please listen to the audio in decent quality in the following link (the MP3 in the CD is awesome):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjwo9BYbmiw


Now you know the song - some who had seen the video can possibly get the horror images of Prabhu-Gauthami-Group dance haunting their minds Laughing (For this post I checked out Embarassed )

If someone is really interested, please visit the youtube links below:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvc5jb7wYwE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oY7lGZPd828

Now, let me get into the shoes of choreographer (don't know who did this movie) and empathize... Wink

- ஐயோ 6/8 ஆ? ராசாவுக்கு அது பிடிக்கும் ஆனா ஆடறவங்க இடுப்பு ஒடிஞ்சிடுமே? தகிட-தகிட-தகிட-தகிட , அதுல கவுதமி-பிரபுவா? ஆனானப்பட்ட அமலாவே அவதிப்பட்டாங்களே ரோசாப்பூ ஆடி வந்தப்போ? லைட்டு கிய்ட்டு ஹுலா ஹூப்பூ எல்லாம் போட்டு ஏமாத்துனாங்க...

- ப்ரிலூட் முடியும்போது ஏன் அப்படி ஒரு நிறுத்தல் - அதுக்குன்னு ஒரு ட்விஸ்ட் வச்சாகணுமே? நல்லா வேலை வாங்குறாரு இந்த ஆளு Sad

- பல்லவி முழுக்க ஒரே மாதிரி ட்ரம் பீட் இல்லாம இது என்ன நடுல 'வா வா'ன்னு சொன்னதுக்கப்புறம் ஒரு நீளமான அடி? அதுக்கும் நான் ஏதாவது ஒன்னு மாத்தணும். அவருக்கும் ட்ரம் அடிக்கிற ஆளுக்கும் நல்லாருக்கும், ஆடிப்பாத்தாத்தெரியும் இடுப்பு என்ன ஆகும்னு! அனுபல்லவி ஒவ்வொரு வரியும் முடியிறப்பவும் பீட் மாத்துறாரு - கொடுமை ஐயா இது Sad

- முதல் இன்டெர்லூட் தொடங்குற முன்னாடி ஏன் ஒரு பிரேக்? நம்மைப்போட்டு வேலை வாங்குறதே இவருக்குப் பொழுது போக்கு. அதுக்குள்ளயும் முழுதும் மாறி மாறி வர்ற பேட்டர்ன்ஸ் வேற. இதுக்கு இவங்களை எப்படி ஆட வைக்கிறது? வேற ஏதாவது ஸீன் வைக்கச்சொல்ல டைரக்டர் கிட்டக்கேக்கலாமா?

- சரணம் - கொஞ்சம் தப்பிச்சுட்டேன். அவரு லீலை எல்லாம் பேஸ் கிட்டாரில் இருக்கு, கண்டுக்காம வுட்டுறலாம். கடைசியில வர்ற ட்ரம் அடிக்கு மட்டும் ஏதாவது யோசிக்கணும்

(Listens to the second interlude)

-ஐயோ இந்த ரெண்டாவது இன்டெர்லூடுக்கு நான் என்ன மூவ்மெண்ட் வைக்கிறது? ஒன்னும் முடியாதுன்னு டைரக்டர் கிட்டச்சொல்லி வேற ஏதாவது ஷாட் எடுக்கச்சொல்லலாமா? ஒத்துப்பாங்களா? திட்டுவாங்களா?

- தல வலிக்குதே

Try dancing this "kAdhalukku rAjA" song from rAjA kaiya vachchA movie, in a "social-gathering-group-dancing" situation in real life!

Laughing

Guaranteed disaster!
(Even for a so-called dance number like mArugO-mArugO, one will end up like this! Compare that with a simple Punjabi bhangra now)

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Re: Perils of being a choreographer to IR's songs

Post  app_engine on Wed Nov 01, 2017 4:50 pm

Quintessential example for this thread :
https://twitter.com/Kamaladdict7/status/925588963313643520

It is funny that someone is slAgichchifying the absurd and dismal picturization of one of the most wonderful instrumental pieces of TFM. (No offence meant to KH who is doing some great moves / acrobatics etc.)

#IR_Waltz, not easy to dance on screen Smile

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