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Post  V_S on Wed Jun 29, 2016 8:19 pm

Congratulations sir for achieving yet another milestone cheers cheers cheers Lot of dedication and passion went into this. This thread is really a gem and priceless.

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Post  ravinat on Wed Jun 29, 2016 11:21 pm

Great work App cheers

It is not easy to collect and catalog such information as it is lying all over the place. Will serve as a reference to all future IR researchers!

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Post  app_engine on Thu Jun 30, 2016 4:44 am

mikka nanRi for the kind words V_Sji & Ravi sir!

வெறும் லிஸ்ட் போடறதுக்கே நாம இவ்வளவு மெனக்கெட வேண்டியிருக்கு. 

அதுவும் இவரோட வேலையின் 1%ஐயும் விடக்குறைவான ஒரு தொகுப்புக்கு Smile

இது போல் 100 மடங்கு - முழுமையாக உருவாக்கிய ஆளின் மூளையும் உழைப்பும் - ஆஹா!

நானெல்லாம் அதை மெச்சக்கூட அருகதை இல்லாதவன்! Smile

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Post  naarayanan on Thu Jun 30, 2016 8:01 am

Usha, thanks for remembering.. Smile BTW we have resurrected Dhool.. In a new platform.. Blog+ FB.. Will give u link.

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Post  Usha on Thu Jun 30, 2016 3:52 pm

Narayana,
   Welcome. Thanks for the link. pakkaren......

IR songs. inum enna. therinja solla mudiyuma..........

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Post  ravinat on Thu Jun 30, 2016 6:47 pm

app_engine wrote:mikka nanRi for the kind words V_Sji & Ravi sir!

வெறும் லிஸ்ட் போடறதுக்கே நாம இவ்வளவு மெனக்கெட வேண்டியிருக்கு. 

அதுவும் இவரோட வேலையின் 1%ஐயும் விடக்குறைவான ஒரு தொகுப்புக்கு Smile

இது போல் 100 மடங்கு - முழுமையாக உருவாக்கிய ஆளின் மூளையும் உழைப்பும் - ஆஹா!

நானெல்லாம் அதை மெச்சக்கூட அருகதை இல்லாதவன்! Smile


That was my message when I responded to CK on the harmonization of ICM. We need to be heads down uncovering different aspects of his work. Most of us have FT jobs that make it very hard to do this research. At the same time, it makes us more qualified than the ones who depend on it for a livelihood. We have no bias to spin something with an agenda. We do not expect anything in return. Just sharing the pleasure of our findings with fellow IR fans.


Research is not glamorous. The output sometimes turns out to be so. We should not shun from that as the results may not always be in our favor. To quote a personal example, I started off trying to find symmetry in Raja's work and did not find much to document. However, having researched this topic from a simple symmetry perspective, I realized that film music has no scope for such things. Aakarsh started me on this trip (no fault of him) and I started off with an interlude in a song called 'Eerettu Padhinaaru' and quickly realized that there was no true symmetry in that interlude though it appears so, on the surface. I went looking for symmetry in several other compositions and had only limited success. This topic is for the mathematically minded and I am sure I lost quite a few readers as a result of this endeavor. I wanted to do tessellations and I realized that when I do not find readers who can understand simple translation symmetry, everything else becomes academic.  However, I decided to press along and publish all the research that I had done.


Some research work in inconclusive and you have to be brave to drop them. I have several of these projects that I abandoned. However, symmetry research did not show Raja in great light and to me that was fine. That is not Raja's focus, but mine looking into his music. My methods could have not uncovered true symmetry and I am aware of that. I liked the comment from one of my readers - tell me where the hell did you find true symmetry in Raja's music Smile


I am not writing about all this to brag about the work I do, but to encourage folks doing research on Raja's music that the road ahead is not very smooth. I have a number of requests from folks who would ask me - where do I download Raja's music? I have a standard response for such requests.


"He is many things to many people - decide what you like of him and then I will advise you. Does his melody, his arrangement, his rhythm, his folk, his ICM, his disco, his harmonies attract you? Think about it."


I am sure most of these requestors think I am a snob as they have no idea what to do after this response bounce


My only hope is one of these guys/gals will start looking for at least one idea that I teased him/her, go on to forums such as this and try to appreciate Raja better. Your work is very important and please do not shy away from uninteresting research work, that may never win you many friends. Rest assured, I always will support serious attempts to catalog, analyze Raja's work, as true learning comes from such strong foundation.

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Post  naarayanan on Fri Jul 01, 2016 6:52 am

Usha wrote:Narayana,
   Welcome. Thanks for the link. pakkaren......

IR songs. inum enna. therinja solla mudiyuma..........

இதயம் போகுதே... already listed?

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Post  naarayanan on Fri Jul 01, 2016 8:07 am

Ignorebthe previous msg.. I just played the song in misram in my mind.. Of course it sounds good.. Try it.. Smile

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Post  Usha on Fri Jul 01, 2016 12:48 pm

naarayanan wrote:Ignorebthe previous msg.. I just played the song in misram in my mind.. Of course it sounds good.. Try it.. Smile

narayana,
idhu misrama ilaiya.. Rolling Eyes

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Post  naarayanan on Fri Jul 01, 2016 4:20 pm

illa tisram... kaettu romba naalaachu... manasula paadi paarthen.. konjam izhuthu..misram maadhiri irundhadhu. hehe.. Smile

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Post  Drunkenmunk on Mon Jul 04, 2016 7:49 pm

57. Vaasa Malli Poovu Poovu, Sevvandhi



A personal favorite. Was listening now as I do every now and then. Remembered this also falls under Misram. Very excellent melody.

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Post  app_engine on Tue Jul 05, 2016 5:17 pm

Drunkenmunk wrote:57. Vaasa Malli Poovu Poovu, Sevvandhi

nanRi sir!

First time listen for me Embarassed (Uma Ramanan of 1993 sounds somewhat different)

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Post  counterpoint on Sat Jul 09, 2016 9:11 pm

One more rare one.. recalling from memory, not sure if video is available. It is from Yezhumalayan magimai which also had a Telugu version. 2 good songs sung by IR/SJ. There was one song sung by SPB "nanmai nalgum" or so, were the words. Definite 7/8, and in a rare raga as well. will try to see if i can get a link

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Post  counterpoint on Sat Jul 09, 2016 9:14 pm

surprised that I could find the link easily
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FifdWzhGsbE

a devotional 7/8 from IR

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Post  counterpoint on Sat Jul 09, 2016 9:27 pm

app_engine wrote:#50 ghanashyAma vrindhAraNyam
(kochu kochu santhOshangaL, 2000 - Kaithapram lyrics / Gayathri Ashokan singer)

great choice for song #50, app. One of my favourite IR MFM songs. He was good in MFM, not just good really special I must say during that phase.
Am a Bhanupriya fan as well. You dont find actresses with that kind of earthy appeal, classical dancing skills these days. Incredible body language and expressive eyes. Shivakara damaruka was another special song. Those days the impending release of IR's  malayalam soundtracks excited me more

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Post  counterpoint on Sat Jul 09, 2016 9:31 pm

in recent times though I dont listen to all IR soundtracks religiously like I did before this song from un samayil arayil caught my attention because of the singer. a foodie song in 7/8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTie2rmrFhk

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Post  app_engine on Mon Jul 11, 2016 7:52 pm

nanRi for the addition, counterpoint!

That way, 'nanmai nalgum Ezhumalai' is #58 of this list Smile

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Post  counterpoint on Mon Jul 11, 2016 8:46 pm

Hi app, a suggestion or request to you (and mods). Since you have already put in quite a bit of effort in making threads like these and collecting songs that fit a musical description, would it be possible to put it in an excel database format somewhere here in this forum itself. Maybe a link like "IR songs categorized by musical genres" or sth at top of this site page? can have a permanent section with a link at top of this site. will be good for ever.

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Post  app_engine on Tue Jul 12, 2016 4:08 pm

counterpoint wrote:Hi app, a suggestion or request to you (and mods). Since you have already put in quite a bit of effort in making threads like these and collecting songs that fit a musical description, would it be possible to put it in an excel database format somewhere here in this forum itself. Maybe a link like "IR songs categorized by musical genres" or sth at top of this site page? can have a permanent section with a link at top of this site. will be good for ever.

I'll request our tech expert V_Sji respond to this good suggestion Smile
(Most of these lists are in excel with me and if there's provision, they can be hosted within no time)

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