Manadhil oru paattu - Song of the moment - Vol 2

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Re: Manadhil oru paattu - Song of the moment - Vol 2

Post  app_engine on Fri Apr 28, 2017 6:15 pm

அழகே அமுதே பூந்தென்றல் தாலாட்டும் பூஞ்சோலையே

This song got played in raajafm.com last evening and I was instantly attracted Smile

It is quite obvious that IR thoroughly enjoys singing this song. It should have been a personal fav when the melody came out of his fingers / harmonium during the composing session, making him to decide that he himself should sing it. And what to say about the wind instrument - WOW - it is used in the end of the first interlude and then comes as a call-response in saraNam, so sweetly!

When raajafm.com played this song again in the morning commute, I can't help but post it here Smile

Here is the good quality audio version, from #IR_Official_YT :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcIIgt9aQjo



I couldn't find a good quality video of the song. The song possibly comes as bits and pieces in the movie narrative. (SPB acts with Vijayakanth in this song as the elder bro character, when I browsed thru the movie on youtube to spot the start of the song - when the aNNan approves of the girl picked by the son. Banupriya's expressive eyes, just prior to the song, are a treat to movie-watchers).

Click on the link below (16th minute of the movie), for the scene of the song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfLV2kYlf0U&t=960s

Someone has hosted a poor-quality version of the song's video here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dx-hR-TwePE



BTW, the song is a sweet #IR_Waltz and one won't get tired of repeating it for any number of times!

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Re: Manadhil oru paattu - Song of the moment - Vol 2

Post  Usha on Wed May 03, 2017 2:26 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YDeGBeUkBo

Ilaiyaraja old songs...  

chinna kannan azhaikiran.. Beautiful prelude......... nice.

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Re: Manadhil oru paattu - Song of the moment - Vol 2

Post  Usha on Wed May 03, 2017 2:34 pm

தேனின் சுவை வண்டு அறியதோ...காதல் மனம் யார் அறிவாரோ...காதல் ரசனை பாடல்கள் | Illayaraja Melodys


kavidhai manadhai kodukum IR isai.............


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_3yNKjdTq4

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Re: Manadhil oru paattu - Song of the moment - Vol 2

Post  kiru on Fri May 26, 2017 10:10 pm

I was trying to get the meaning of Guru sthothram in hey ram (brahmanandam parama sukhdham ..) . I realized KH is not singing the lyrics right. Instead of ''gagana sadrisham" he sings "triguna rahitam" (which is from the last line). Am i hearing it right ?

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Re: Manadhil oru paattu - Song of the moment - Vol 2

Post  crimson king on Fri Jun 02, 2017 6:51 pm

I looked for it and didn't come across any analysis of Athikaalai Neram Kanavil (Naan Solvadhe Sattam/SPB & Asha). The second interlude is very interesting because he takes off with soaring strings and seems to go into Hamsanandhi and then back with a spectacular resolution.  The song as such is in Sivaranjani.  So...how is this achieved?


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Re: Manadhil oru paattu - Song of the moment - Vol 2

Post  app_engine on Mon Jun 05, 2017 1:18 am

Check-out this whole thread by Sureshji in Twitter :
https://twitter.com/Raaga_Suresh/status/871058903466770432

He has posted ONE song per EACH YEAR of IR (1976-2016, means 41 songs).

All are awesome picks and his comments are excellent for each!

Hopefully he'll compile these into a blog post some day Smile

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Re: Manadhil oru paattu - Song of the moment - Vol 2

Post  app_engine on Mon Jun 05, 2017 1:24 am

crimson king wrote:I looked for it and didn't come across any analysis of Athikaalai Neram Kanavil (Naan Solvadhe Sattam/SPB & Asha). The second interlude is very interesting because he takes off with soaring strings and seems to go into Hamsanandhi and then back with a spectacular resolution.  The song as such is in Sivaranjani.  So...how is this achieved?

One cannot call my post as analysis, but this was something I posted a few years back on this song:

http://www.mayyam.com/talk/showthread.php?8541-The-Golden-Era-of-Dr-IR-and-Dr-SPB&s=08ac8b596eef73d72b9b92f4ea348a94&p=810387&viewfull=1#post810387

app_engine, in SPB-IR thread wrote:
#278 அதிகாலை நேரம் கனவில் உன்னைப்பார்த்தேன்
(நான் சொல்வதே சட்டம், 1988 , ஆஷா போஸ்லேயுடன்) 

adhikAlai nEram kanavil unnaippArththEn (nAn solvathe sattam, with Asha Bhosle)

Did I say light-weight songs for the next few days? May be so, from the hit status...but not really from a musical POV. This song had been first heard on a few bus journeys inside Cbe city and I searched around for the details. Obscure movie but possibly a money-bag producer, rich enough to sign-up the Mumbai singer. Or, it could be the other way around - AB came to Chennai for some other prime singing assignment (with salary / # of days fixed) and thanks to the extreme efficiency of rAsA's team, the studio could get a few more numbers recorded without spending much or anything at all 

There's no other explanation to see a ton of AB songs on a movie that had a horrible title like this and an unknown Charanraj doing the lead role (if one goes by Thiraippadal listing of the hero's name). I don't think most people even heard the name of the movie. However, few IR admirers of 80's would have missed the sweet songs from this album. I got this one and another duet (again same pair, will post tomorrow) recorded on a Sony cassette and treated myself regularly those days. These two numbers are among my favourite IR-AB numbers (though these songs didn't earn a place like sheNbagamE in my heart).

The melody is superb and very soothing and SPB's singing is like mayiliRagu koNdu varudal. BTW, the lady who was born in 1933 and started her singing career in 1943 sings this song very nice too 

I've also posted about the other duet from the same album, "oru dEvadhai vandhadhu" in that thread :

http://www.mayyam.com/talk/showthread.php?8541-The-Golden-Era-of-Dr-IR-and-Dr-SPB&s=08ac8b596eef73d72b9b92f4ea348a94&p=810896&viewfull=1#post810896


#279 ஒரு தேவதை வந்தது
(நான் சொல்வதே சட்டம், 1988 , ஆஷா போஸ்லேயுடன்)

oru dEvadhai vandhadhu (from nAn solvathE sattam with Asha Bhosle)

What a lovely song! 

Though I used to make fun of the 'aLakiya dEvadhai' pronunciation of AB those days, there's no question about her excellent singing in this song that takes it to a different level (and I'm positive my fav SJ would have taken it to an even better level). SPB thoroughly enjoys singing as well, while the orchestration is kept to mostly "support mode" to let the melody take the driver's seat. Listening to songs like this on the headphone, lying down in the bed on a calm & silent night with absolutely no disturbances around is what I can call "bliss".

That such a song didn't go unnoticed in TN despite occuring in an obscure movie and got enough air time / bus time etc were possible simply because of the environment that got created by the rAsA phenomenon. (Unfortunately, that had been taken away by late 90's. Nowadays, it appears it's almost impossible for songs that are neither from successful movies nor highly promoted movies to get any kind of recognition. A very different music scene today. This phenomenon is like 'nirabarAthikku dhaNdanai' and is more irritating than the 'kuRRavALi thappiththal' aka popularity of undeserving numbers).

Anyways, like I mentioned before, this song brings me more memories of lachchumi complex and other Cbe roaming arounds. I think I've posted before about the Raja street's Tiffin House in some thread. I had a short-term-room-mate who finished his engg in Cbe and was aware of this place. He introduced me the joint which is on that cross street to oppaNakkAra street and was always crowded (the idlees, dOsais and the variety of chutnies - kathrikkA chutney famous -were all delicious) and one had to wait for the "rationing" much like the college mess. Well, mouth watering memories!

BTW, has any hubber watched this nAn solvathE sattam movie? If so, why not share the experience?

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Re: Manadhil oru paattu - Song of the moment - Vol 2

Post  crimson king on Mon Jun 05, 2017 3:40 am

Not an analysis but a good read, saar.  Always enjoy reading your bus journey recollections.  Music was at the front and centre of culture at that time.  Not just IR,a pair of composers on their debut composing for a film with unknown lead actors stormed the Bollywood scene...with what I'd regard as a middling, mediocre-to-the-core soundtrack.  I am talking about Nadeem Shravan's music for the film Aashiqui.  People were prepared to listen to a song if it just happened to play somewhere on radio or TV.  They/we were not occupied with various computer-enabled means of entertainment as we are now.  Even I don't spend any time listening to new songs on TV.  Mostly because 99% of it is unsahikable but that also means when a good song like Ik Kudi from Udta Punjab comes along, I am not likely to have heard it first on radio/TV.  Usually, it will be a year later on Indian Idol.  And if it hasn't already attained that level of popularity, it's gone.  I'd say 90s killed the appetite for listening to music in both Hindi and Tamil.  The music directors (not talking about Raja) kept churning out mokkai songs by the thousands even as computers had arrived.  I don't think computers would have so easily weaned people away from music in the golden age of HFM or any time in TFM up to 80s.  We would have still surrendered to the machine but kicking and screaming all the way.  It was just too easy to get away from the Deva/Sirpi/NS/Anu Malik nonsense when a new and exciting world awaited us with the arrival of PCs and internet. That people ordered 50000 or so copies of NEPV in advance shows that the appetite at least circa 2012 was not completely dead but to paraphrase IR, "Without composer, what will the CD do?"

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Re: Manadhil oru paattu - Song of the moment - Vol 2

Post  app_engine on Mon Jun 05, 2017 8:24 pm

nanRi C_K!

Today's listen - a special treat by Navin Mozart :

Collection of "music for end credits" :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRbJi75iPmg


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Post  mythila on Sun Jun 11, 2017 1:14 pm

Learnt from the \"loyal but disgruntled with post millennnium IR" fan cum moderator of IR threads in TFMPage, a Raga pundit Rajaram, that this song is a kalapada or misra shivaranjani pattern. Not only in the 2nd interlude we are surprised by the Grahabedham to Hamsanandini, but also during the charanam midst are we taken by a sweet surprise twist of Hemavathy/Saraswathy Grahabedham. The newbie mds need to take a leaf out of Raja on how to handle this googly of ragas.
crimson king wrote:I looked for it and didn't come across any analysis of Athikaalai Neram Kanavil (Naan Solvadhe Sattam/SPB & Asha). The second interlude is very interesting because he takes off with soaring strings and seems to go into Hamsanandhi and then back with a spectacular resolution.  The song as such is in Sivaranjani.  So...how is this achieved?


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Re: Manadhil oru paattu - Song of the moment - Vol 2

Post  crimson king on Wed Jun 14, 2017 5:29 pm

mythila wrote:Learnt from the \"loyal but disgruntled with post millennnium IR" fan cum moderator of IR threads in TFMPage, a Raga pundit Rajaram, that this song is a kalapada or misra shivaranjani pattern. Not only in the 2nd interlude we are surprised by the Grahabedham to Hamsanandini, but also during the charanam midst are we taken by a sweet surprise twist of Hemavathy/Saraswathy Grahabedham. The newbie mds need to take a leaf out of Raja on how to handle this googly of ragas.

Thanks for this!  It truly is a tapestry of ragas.  Sadly, we have lost the 'appetite' for these beautiful experiments as he correctly warned us about through the lyrics of Iniya Gaanam.  One very annoying legacy of Rahman is the complete shifting of emphasis to feel as if melodic/harmonic experiments are either irrelevant or pretentious or both.  This is disingenuous because Rahman himself is not 'above' experimentation, only that they are not nearly as breathtaking as IR's.

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Re: Manadhil oru paattu - Song of the moment - Vol 2

Post  Raaga_Suresh on Tue Jun 20, 2017 7:13 am

Been listening to this beauty from 'Villupura Pattukaran' on a loop nowadays. What a melody. Raja shows us that bhakti songs can offer infinite variations. Chitra delivers perfectly. Her melodic voice suiting the song perfectly and her subdued singing enhancing the effectiveness. What a great singer she is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWoFsBhDs2I

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