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Re: Busting Popular Myths Related to Ilayaraaja

Post  Nerd on Wed Mar 12, 2014 5:08 pm

fring151 wrote:
 DM PM'ed me a twitter link where one world peace activist had a "Freudian slip" and put up a status saying he would like to cut off the ears of those who don't like Koch songs and feed them to the crows (or was it vultures?) and several fellow activists retweeted and favourited that tweet. That made my day, yesterday. Thanks DM.  Smile 
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Re: Busting Popular Myths Related to Ilayaraaja

Post  fring151 on Wed Mar 12, 2014 8:25 pm

https://twitter.com/IamKanal/status/442516776791060480

"கம்பு சுத்துறது எல்லாம் துப்பாக்கி இல்லாதவன் பண்றது..சுட்டுகிட்டு போயிட்டே இருப்போம்.:-)"

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Re: Busting Popular Myths Related to Ilayaraaja

Post  fring151 on Wed Mar 12, 2014 9:35 pm

ROFL, Munk, idhellAm public'A share paNNa vENdiya matter  Very Happy 

https://twitter.com/SudhirSrinath/status/443594612762873856
https://twitter.com/SudhirSrinath/status/443594093319319553

First this:

if u leave no.s out,MSV/TR-K'dasan is da best,AR-VM brought back the glory of lyrics in TFM..IR's is a dark era in TFM for lyrics..

Then this,

i hardly know 30-40 songs of IR by mind,so dunno if VM worked with him or not.but other point,im very sure-IRs songs had crap lyric

IR's way of working appadi..oru munbe vaa range pattu irukka IR-vaali combo-la?

Look at the splendid logic. In reply to your blogpost dissecting lyricists' contributions by %, first he says screw the numbers, IR's was a dark era in TFM lyrics, regardless. Then in reply to dagalti, he says he has heard only 30-40 IR songs and doesn't even know if VM worked with him ( Rolling Eyes ), but he doesn't care. But, he is still very sure that IR songs had crap lyrics.

And then, wait for it...he asks if IR-Vaali combo has ever produced something like Munbe vaa after..err. claiming he knows hardly 30-40 songs of IR. ROTFLMFAO

Breathtaking stupidity, I say! Simply breathtaking.

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Re: Busting Popular Myths Related to Ilayaraaja

Post  ravinat on Wed Mar 12, 2014 9:52 pm

crimson king wrote:THAT is the real myth that needs to be attacked.  With due respect to those contributions of Vaali or Gangai or even Diamond that I enjoy, I might still concede that overall lyrics were better in the MSV-TKR and Kannadasan era.  But where's the evidence that the glory of Tamil lyrics was drastically restored under ARR? What's up with 50 kg Tajmahal?

CK

  What if you imagine Taj Mahal being made of Styrofoam? You need to attend the VM school of science. Only after being indoctrinated in that school, will you understand such deep ideas  bounce 

  You can also read the initial lines of my article here: http://solvanam.com/?p=23067

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Re: Busting Popular Myths Related to Ilayaraaja

Post  Usha on Wed Mar 12, 2014 9:54 pm

4000 paatu irukara oru Music Director... 40 paatu kaetutu ipadi solradhuku konjamum thagudhi ilai. idhai naam value seiyavam vendam.........   IR ai ipadi pazhikaradhala.. ARR paatoda Lyric ellam usathiya agadhu. ARR Lyric usathi na.. namalai madhiri
paatai solla sollunga.. ethanai paatu varudhu nu parkalam......... Namaku ellam periya list dhan varum......


Janani Janani ... indha madhirii Bhakthi paata koduthara ARR... ipadi kaekalama................ Nalladhu ellam kadhil vizhadhu pola iruku...........

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Re: Busting Popular Myths Related to Ilayaraaja

Post  Bala (Karthik) on Thu Mar 13, 2014 6:02 am

fring151 wrote:ROFL, Munk, idhellAm public'A share paNNa vENdiya matter  Very Happy 

https://twitter.com/SudhirSrinath/status/443594612762873856
https://twitter.com/SudhirSrinath/status/443594093319319553

First this:

if u leave no.s out,MSV/TR-K'dasan is da best,AR-VM brought back the glory of lyrics in TFM..IR's is a dark era in TFM for lyrics..

Then this,

i hardly know 30-40 songs of IR by mind,so dunno if VM worked with him or not.but other point,im very sure-IRs songs had crap lyric

IR's way of working appadi..oru munbe vaa range pattu irukka IR-vaali combo-la?

Look at the splendid logic. In reply to your blogpost dissecting lyricists' contributions by %, first he says screw the numbers, IR's was a dark era in TFM lyrics, regardless. Then in reply to dagalti, he says he has heard only 30-40 IR songs and doesn't even know if VM worked with him ( Rolling Eyes ), but he doesn't care. But, he is still very sure that IR songs had crap lyrics.

And then, wait for it...he asks if IR-Vaali combo has ever produced something like Munbe vaa after..err. claiming he knows hardly 30-40 songs of IR. ROTFLMFAO

Breathtaking stupidity, I say! Simply breathtaking.
Thala suthudhu. Baffling

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Re: Busting Popular Myths Related to Ilayaraaja

Post  Drunkenmunk on Thu Mar 13, 2014 10:12 am

P_R (@dagalti) responding with a twitlonger: http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1s0u2fu

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Re: Busting Popular Myths Related to Ilayaraaja

Post  app_engine on Mon Mar 24, 2014 6:38 pm

Myth:
முக்கல் முனகல் பாடல்களைப் புகுத்தித் தமிழ்க்கலாசாரத்தையே சீரழித்தவர் இளையராஜா. 
(அதிலும் எல்.ஆர்.ஈஸ்வரி மாதிரி பெரும்பாலும் கவர்ச்சி நடனப்பாடல்களுக்கே பாடும் பாடகி அல்லாத நல்ல பாடகி -ஜானகி -யைக் கொண்டு அப்படிச்செய்தார்.)

Fact 1 :
Look at my discovery here:
http://ilayaraja.forumms.net/t170p15-spb-s-pre-ir-tfm-songs-status#14896
(KVM mAmA making SPB/SJ do a full-fledged mukkal-munagal song for MGR movie pattikkAttu ponnaiyA in 1973 i.e. 3 years before the arrival of IR in TFM scene as MD)

Fact 2 :
Other MDs too tried such genre songs for MGR (will soon feature 'idhazhE idhazhE thEn vENdum' by MSV in that SPB thread with an actress doing siNungal business that is no less to a 'nilA kAyudhu', 'nEththu rAththiri' or 'ponmEni')

Fact 3 :
All these fellows were trying but not extremely successful. It is just that whatever IR did was many times better - much like his songs for themmAngu, romance, semi-classical, fusion etc in most cases.

So, IR didn't START that culture - it was clearly his predecessors, especially for MGR, one of the all-time-popular heroes of TFM (or TN).

Let all those MSV-fan-gumbals (e.g. Amudhavan / Karigan kinds) not keep throwing such abuse stones on rAsA anymore!

They are clearly sitting inside glass houses!

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Re: Busting Popular Myths Related to Ilayaraaja

Post  app_engine on Mon Mar 24, 2014 7:10 pm

Myth:
IR made an orthodox community look ugly by doing that 'vAngOnnA' song ("kEttELE ingE adhap pAththELA angE" in bathrakALi)

Though the above is not made out to be a big deal today, it was a big thing even years after the movie came out - i.e. during my college days when I've heard many hostelmates denouncing IR for that.

Well, the AIR fellows (majority from the orthodox community those days) were so upset that they banned the song from broadcasts, even though it could not be exactly classified as vulgar.

Facts:

1. It was only the 2nd movie of IR and he couldn't possibly have had that much clout - to push A C Thirulokchandar or Vaali (who himself is of the community from Srirangam) to get a scenario like that or lyrics like that which could be misunderstood.

2. Now, this is another of my recent finds while searching for SPB songs during pre-IR days Embarassed

The bathrakALi director, ACT, himself had "inspiration / copy" from a MGR movie, Raman thEdiya Seethai.  :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLJDZvrmA0A


The bathrakALi situation for the song is similar to the play being watched by MGR in the above video (where JJ is made to dance with much less clothes compared to bathrakALi) Embarassed

Look at the bathrakALi song :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWAWdV7sP0w

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Re: Busting Popular Myths Related to Ilayaraaja

Post  app_engine on Mon Mar 24, 2014 7:50 pm

#IRnonTabla...

New thread and a "to-be-started-relay-tweet-series" :
http://ilayaraja.forumms.net/t175-irnontabla-relay-tweets-collection-thread

Please support to bust this nonsencial myth!

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Re: Busting Popular Myths Related to Ilayaraaja

Post  ravinat on Fri Apr 04, 2014 3:50 pm

I wrote about Raja myths when I started blogging in 2008. Here are two posts that I wrote that have a lot of relevance tot his topic:

http://geniusraja.blogspot.ca/2008/09/some-more-raja-myths.html

http://geniusraja.blogspot.ca/2008/08/some-myths-about-raja.html

End of self-plug...

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