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Post  Usha on Sun Aug 10, 2014 1:12 pm

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Post  app_engine on Sun Aug 10, 2014 2:22 pm

vicks wrote: 'Aalap' Raju ... anyone know what song that is, likely some recent album

mikka nanRi for sharing this rare link!

Interesting to see that a singer who had never sung for rAsA showing so much of fandom Smile

Also, one from primarily HJ-ism Smile
(ennamO EdhO must be his most popular song)

Going by the content of video (before release of the Myskin film mugamoodi, which was even before OA), this is not some latest song or yet to be released song. It must have been some recording that happened before 'ennamO EdhO' - at least 2-3 years older album.

Interesting to see him mentioning IR's "melodic" use of bass guitar Smile

The whole interview felt like reading a good thread in old tfmpage Smile

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Re: Anything about IR found on the net - Vol 2

Post  app_engine on Sun Aug 10, 2014 2:44 pm

Nice comment by flautist Napoleon aka singer Arunmozhi on FB

He is replying to a post by a lyricist telling dEvA-doing-a-rAsA-act :


உண்மையில் ராஜா சாரின் ஆழத்தை நீங்கள் சரிவரப் புரிந்துகொள்ள வில்லையென்றே நினைக்கிறேன். அனேகமாக எல்லா இசையமைப்பாளர்களிடமும் (MSV, KVM, VK தொடங்கி.....ரஹ்மான், தேவா.....இன்றைய யுவன் வரையில் பணியாற்றியிருக்கிறேன்). நான் அறிந்த வரையில் ராஜா சாரின் பாடல்களில் உள்ள இயல்பான இயற்கைத்தன்மை மற்றவர்களின் இசையில் குறைவு என்பது என்னுடைய தனிப்பட்டக் கருத்து. மாற்றெண்ணம் கொண்டோர் மன்னிக்க! (தயவு செய்து மற்றவர்களைக் குறைத்து மதிப்பிடுகிறேன் என்று யாரும் தவறாக எடுத்துக்கொள்ள வேண்டாம். ஒவ்வொருவருடைய இசைக்கும் குறிப்பிடத்தக்க தனித்தன்மை உள்ளதையும் இங்கு கவனத்தில் கொள்ள வேண்டும்) ஆனால் வித்தியாசம் என்று நான் இங்கு குறிப்பிட விரும்புவது, ராஜா சார் கம்போசிங் என்று உட்கார்ந்துவிட்டால் முழு பாடலும் அதிக பட்ச வார்த்தைகளோடு (கவிஞர்களுக்கு பாதி வேலை மிச்சம்) அருவி போல் ஒரே வீச்சில் வந்து விழும். நிறைய இயக்குனர்களே இதைச் சொல்லக் கேட்டிருப்பீர்கள். முதல் பல்லவிக்கும் சரணத்துக்கும் திரும்பப் பல்லவிக்கும் நளினமாய் பயணிக்கும் அந்த இயல்பான connectivity மற்றவர்களிடமிருந்து இவரை வித்தியாசப்படுத்துகிறது.
 
அடுத்து,
Orchestration. பாடலின் மெட்டும் அதற்கான 100% orchestration ஐயும் ஒருவரே செய்யும்போது கிடைக்கும் அத்தனை முழுமை! அத்தோடு ஒவ்வொரு வாத்தியத்தையும் வித்தியாசமாய் கையாளும் ஆளுமை மற்றும் பாங்கு, அதுவும் மற்றவர்களிடமிருந்து இவரை வேறுபடுத்திக் காட்டுகிறது என்பது என் தனிப்பட்டக் கருத்து. மாற்றுக்கருத்து உள்ளோர் தயவு கூர்ந்து பொறுத்தருள்க!

Another commenter at the same thread there :

Thambi GK wrote:
நெப்போலியன் (அருண்மொழி)அவர்களின் கருத்தோடு மாறுபாடுபவர்கள் இசையறிவு குறைந்தவர்களாகவே இருக்க முடியும். ராஜாவின் இசை என்பது 100 % அவர்
மனத்திலிருந்து வருவது. ரகுமான் கூட
கூட என் விருப்புக்குரிய இசை அமைப்பாளர். ஆனால் ராஜா என்பவர் ஒப்பீடுகள் , காலம் தாண்டிய மேதை.

சிறு குறிப்பு : பாம்‌பே திரையில் வரும்
தீம் இசை நாம் நினைப்பது போல் ரகுமானின் இசை அல்ல.
அது அவரின் புலாங்குழல் கலைஞர் நவீன் அவர்களுக்கு சொந்தமானது.
விஜய் டீவீ super singer இல் நவீன்
வந்த போது அவரே கூறினார்.

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Re: Anything about IR found on the net - Vol 2

Post  Raaga_Suresh on Mon Aug 11, 2014 9:54 am

Saw the Napoleon comment on FB yesterday and was stuck by the basic decency of the man and the way he put forth his views. Everyone knows that he is a player in Raja troupe and people can easily accuse him of bias. Yet, he is a top class flute player who has played for many music directors. His approach to telling what he feels is right is fantastic. Wish some singers (you know who they are Smile ) learn this humility aspect from Napoleon.

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Re: Anything about IR found on the net - Vol 2

Post  Drunkenmunk on Mon Aug 11, 2014 10:26 am

^Yes his views are well noted and very diplomatic and truly humble. But his comment about the Bombay theme... Without getting into specifics of which track from which Hariprasad Chaurasia album for proof, this is bordering on throwing muck in the hope that something sticks. Hope he (or someone) clears the air on exactly what song he has mind of Chaurasia's.

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Re: Anything about IR found on the net - Vol 2

Post  Usha on Mon Aug 11, 2014 11:34 am

app_engine wrote: Nice comment by flautist Napoleon aka singer Arunmozhi on FB

He is replying to a post by a lyricist telling dEvA-doing-a-rAsA-act :


) ஆனால் வித்தியாசம் என்று நான் இங்கு குறிப்பிட விரும்புவது, ராஜா சார் கம்போசிங் என்று உட்கார்ந்துவிட்டால் முழு பாடலும் அதிக பட்ச வார்த்தைகளோடு (கவிஞர்களுக்கு பாதி வேலை மிச்சம்) அருவி போல் ஒரே வீச்சில் வந்து விழும். நிறைய இயக்குனர்களே இதைச் சொல்லக் கேட்டிருப்பீர்கள். முதல் பல்லவிக்கும் சரணத்துக்கும் திரும்பப் பல்லவிக்கும் நளினமாய் பயணிக்கும் அந்த இயல்பான connectivity மற்றவர்களிடமிருந்து இவரை வித்தியாசப்படுத்துகிறது.
 
அடுத்து,
Orchestration. பாடலின் மெட்டும் அதற்கான 100% orchestration ஐயும் ஒருவரே செய்யும்போது கிடைக்கும் அத்தனை முழுமை! அத்தோடு ஒவ்வொரு வாத்தியத்தையும் வித்தியாசமாய் கையாளும் ஆளுமை மற்றும் பாங்கு, அதுவும் மற்றவர்களிடமிருந்து இவரை வேறுபடுத்திக் காட்டுகிறது என்பது என் தனிப்பட்டக் கருத்து. மாற்றுக்கருத்து உள்ளோர் தயவு கூர்ந்து பொறுத்தருள்க!

Nalinamai payanikum andha Iyalbana CONNECTIVITY ......  epadi azhagaga solli irukar.................Great Words........
TRUE One.............

IR in Isaiyai.. Vaarthaiyil solvadhu enbadhu...... adhuuvm oru kavidhai madhiri dhan.......... ARunmozhi sonna style..
from mudhal pallavikum to vidhyasapaduthukiradhu varai.....
padichu parunga...... adhuvae oru IR music pola.. vaarthai ellam oru isaiyin vadivamai.. enaku thoniyadhu.........

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Re: Anything about IR found on the net - Vol 2

Post  Usha on Mon Aug 11, 2014 3:56 pm

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1s3gmkr

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Re: Anything about IR found on the net - Vol 2

Post  app_engine on Mon Aug 11, 2014 4:02 pm

Drunkenmunk wrote:But his comment about the Bombay theme... Without getting into specifics of which track from which Hariprasad Chaurasia album for proof, this is bordering on throwing muck in the hope that something sticks. Hope he (or someone) clears the air on exactly what song he has mind of Chaurasia's.

This is his reply to your comment here Smile

that FB page wrote:
Napoleon Selvaraj:
https://soundcloud.com/napols8/copy-played-by-me-of-hari-jis-folk
please listen this track which i recollected from my memory and played a folk song from an album of Pandit Hariprasad Chourassia listened around in1987. PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THAT THIS IS NOT TO HURT OR DEGRADE ANY ONE. THIS IS PURELY AN INFORMATION JUST I WANTED TO SHARE. IF ANY ONE FIND THE ORIGINAL ALBUM KINDLY MESSAGE TO ME. THANKS A LOT

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Re: Anything about IR found on the net - Vol 2

Post  Drunkenmunk on Mon Aug 11, 2014 5:26 pm

app_engine wrote:
Drunkenmunk wrote:But his comment about the Bombay theme... Without getting into specifics of which track from which Hariprasad Chaurasia album for proof, this is bordering on throwing muck in the hope that something sticks. Hope he (or someone) clears the air on exactly what song he has mind of Chaurasia's.

This is his reply to your comment here Smile

that FB page wrote:
Napoleon Selvaraj:
https://soundcloud.com/napols8/copy-played-by-me-of-hari-jis-folk
please listen this track which i recollected from my memory and played a folk song from an album of Pandit Hariprasad Chourassia listened around in1987. PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THAT THIS IS NOT TO HURT OR DEGRADE ANY ONE. THIS IS PURELY AN INFORMATION JUST I WANTED TO SHARE. IF ANY ONE FIND THE ORIGINAL ALBUM KINDLY MESSAGE TO ME. THANKS A LOT

This may work with preaching to the choir. But not to the skeptics or the ARR fans. Because, unless we get the original track from the original album (if there's one; I'll believe Arunmozhi since he's a musician than say a Suresh Krishna who's a noob. But without proof, this will go nowhere), he will be accused of slander like here:

https://twitter.com/kaarthikarul/status/498800404667580416

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Re: Anything about IR found on the net - Vol 2

Post  app_engine on Mon Aug 11, 2014 5:54 pm

DM,
Yes - this can be easily dismissed as something "made up" by Napolean.

Just saw that post and shared here Smile
(Personally, I don't care one way or other - topic purely for fun / observation only, with zero sentiments).

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Re: Anything about IR found on the net - Vol 2

Post  Drunkenmunk on Mon Aug 11, 2014 6:33 pm

app_engine wrote:DM,
Yes - this can be easily dismissed as something "made up" by Napolean.

Just saw that post and shared here Smile
(Personally, I don't care one way or other - topic purely for fun / observation only, with zero sentiments).

I guess it depends on when one's idol is under fire. When the PM theme slander came about, obviously mafia did get worked up. Case reversal now Smile The difference is Napoleon is a musician. This is a double edged sword. His word carries credibility, being among the better flutists in the country (would obviously follow a legend like HPC closely). It also goes the other extreme. Till this is proved true, this can/will be dismissed as slander and coming from a musician as opposed to a fan (like say birdman), this will resonate deeper among fans of both sides. Of course, musician folks like Srinivasamurthy have been saying stuff like 80s la brass kANOm, around '92, orchestra marichu pOyi kind of nonsense on the other side too. But with a marketing savvy ARR and co., from the likes of Arunmozhi, high chances this may boomerang unless someone gets the original, if it is available.

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Re: Anything about IR found on the net - Vol 2

Post  Drunkenmunk on Mon Aug 11, 2014 6:45 pm

Well, got it. From twitter:



While copy is a strong word (not sure if Napoleon meant "copy" another way), definite inspiration. At least glad that Napoleon wasn't making this up as maniacs were trying to insinuate Smile Phew.

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Re: Anything about IR found on the net - Vol 2

Post  app_engine on Mon Aug 11, 2014 6:53 pm

I guess followers of composers other than IR may not get so much of concern with this aspect.

Especially those who follow ARR - who often pride themselves of following someone who is not Hitler-like Laughing

One who always "colloborates / jams / credits others" etc in making music.

That way, they'll take such references (of Naveen playing his piece for BGM of a movie or Sabesh-Murali doing BGM for another movie etc) as nothing out of ordinary. It is more or less something like MSV udhavi Govardhanam / Joseph Krishna kinds that even appears on movie titles Wink

It's only those HCIRFs who always claim "rAsA writes every note and never allows others to improvise / change" etc who will jump when someone says XYZ piece of some ABC IR album was not by IR Smile

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Re: Anything about IR found on the net - Vol 2

Post  Drunkenmunk on Mon Aug 11, 2014 6:59 pm

But even then, Napoleon vAschadhukkum idhukkum nerayA different irukkudhungaLE... Razz

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Re: Anything about IR found on the net - Vol 2

Post  app_engine on Mon Aug 11, 2014 8:16 pm

வை ராஜா வை

While it's surprising that Aishwarya Dhanush went to Yuvan for her second project (after getting such a hugely popular soundtrack for 3 from her relative boy), that is not the only thing unusual.

Now, Dhanush has "written" lyrics and IR is singing a song it seems Embarassed

உலகத்தில் என்னென்னமோ நடக்குது!

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Re: Anything about IR found on the net - Vol 2

Post  app_engine on Mon Aug 11, 2014 8:23 pm

Vasuki, another professional in cine industry from rAsA family


A cousin sister of ace music director Yuvan Shankar Raja, Director Venkat Prabhu and Premji has completed 10 years in her profession as a costume designer in Kollywood. A good friend of Trisha, Vishal and other stars in the industry talks about her role as a costume designer. She was amazed at the Mankatha sets when she came for the first day as the fans of Ajith thrilled her. Ajith’s 50th film Mankatha took her to fame.

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Re: Anything about IR found on the net - Vol 2

Post  fring151 on Mon Aug 11, 2014 11:51 pm

There are some similarities with the Harprasad Chaurasia piece, but that comment by Napoloen is honestly unwarranted. Can't defend it.

In other news, here's an interesting article on the BBC on artificial music you might find interesting. I heard that "Hello world" piece and IMHO it was pretty random and generic.

http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20140808-music-like-never-heard-before

The key to Iamus’s success is an algorithm that mimics the process of natural selection. It takes a fragment of music (itself generated at random), of any length, and mutates it. Each mutation is assessed to see whether it conforms to particular rules – some generic, such as that the notes have to be playable on the instrument in question, others genre-specific, so that features like the melodies and harmonies fit with what is typical for that style. Little by little, the initial random fragment becomes more and more like real music, and the ‘evolutionary process’ stops when all the rules are met. In this way, hundreds of variants can be generated from the same starting material.

Fascinating ideas, but the thought is somewhat depressing IMHO. Just how much will computers take over music in the future?

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Re: Anything about IR found on the net - Vol 2

Post  jaiganesh on Tue Aug 12, 2014 2:44 am

fring151 wrote:There are some similarities with the Harprasad Chaurasia piece, but that comment by Napoloen is honestly unwarranted. Can't defend it.

In other news, here's an interesting article on the BBC on artificial music you might find interesting. I heard that "Hello world" piece and IMHO it was pretty random and generic.

http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20140808-music-like-never-heard-before

The key to Iamus’s success is an algorithm that mimics the process of natural selection. It takes a fragment of music (itself generated at random), of any length, and mutates it. Each mutation is assessed to see whether it conforms to particular rules – some generic, such as that the notes have to be playable on the instrument in question, others genre-specific, so that features like the melodies and harmonies fit with what is typical for that style. Little by little, the initial random fragment becomes more and more like real music, and the ‘evolutionary process’ stops when all the rules are met. In this way, hundreds of variants can be generated from the same starting material.

Fascinating ideas, but the thought is somewhat depressing IMHO. Just how much will computers take over music in the future?
He never had an intention to post it - but was pissed of at one tambrahm idiot who puked on something about ARR greater thaan Raaja because of national reach etc., etc., He simply put it on to shut that person down. I find the word "inspiration" a rather loose one.. If the composer is genuinely taking a piece and saying "let me present my variation to it as an addendum or logical continuum" then i accept. But when someone perennially assembles bits together (either by asking some poor musician to play contours of a raaga for hours together or by lifting the lid to a digital musical library) then I would put my eggs in musician's (in this case Arunmozhi) basket. As an afterthought lines could have been written to sound as "inspiration". I know I am standing on the borderline - but the comparison of Arunmozhi and Suressh Krissna is way too lame in this case and it provoked me to write this.

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Re: Anything about IR found on the net - Vol 2

Post  fring151 on Tue Aug 12, 2014 3:57 am

jaiganesh wrote:I find the word "inspiration" a rather loose one.. If the composer is genuinely taking a piece and saying "let me present my variation to it as an addendum or logical continuum" then i accept. 

Good point. I would agree that the Bombay flute theme borrows strong ideas from HC's "Song of the river" (which incidentally I have heard a few times before) but doesn't go much beyond in terms of thematic development. We need to coin a word for something that is neither a blatant copy nor a sublime inspiration. How does "patchwork" sound?  Razz

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Re: Anything about IR found on the net - Vol 2

Post  app_engine on Wed Aug 13, 2014 12:39 am

rAsA and Yuvan

It's possible they add spice, so read with a pinch of salt...


Being Ilaiyaraaja's son, was becoming a composer the obvious choice for you?
I grew up in a musical environment, but I always wanted to become a pilot.

Talk about your connection with AR Rahman...
I have sung just twice for him, whereas I have sung at least 10 times for my father. But being Ilaiyaraaja's son, singing for Rahman became a big deal. Actually, I sang for Rahman as I don't have any ego, and I wanted to set an example for future composers to not have ego and boundaries with other composers. My dad asked me, 'What made you sing?' I said, 'I just felt like singing.'

Talk about your father...
My dad thinks about music 24x7. Even at home, if you see him, he will be writing. He still goes to classes to learn writing. I respect his drive and dedication to work, where, despite his age, he is still doing five to six films a year and has recently completed composing for 1,000 films. Once I remember when I was small he was really sick but even though he couldn't even walk, he went to work. His life is centered around his music. He is not an expressive person and doesn't show his emotions. If I play a song, he will not show it. Max to max he will laugh and ask, 'What did you do?' His laughing is a sign that he appreciated it. We all live together but I don't like his temper. I was very close to my mom and my older brother Karthik is very close to my father. He knows that I am a rebel and will do what I have to and that I will not listen to anybody. I am guessing that he doesn't like how I decide everything on my own without any discussion with anybody.

My brother was a gold medalist from Trinity, whereas I was a school dropout after Class IX, so I know that my father would not have imagined that I could have done so well. I am the underdog in my family. And while I know that my father is proud of me, he is even more proud of my brother due to the knowledge of music he has. I do love my father, but my respect for him is even more.

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I love to help people. While for big films, I charge commercially, I have also done films for free for struggling people. My father too has helped a lot of people in his life and is not commercial-minded. If a producer's wife came to her to tell her that her husband had no money, my mother would request my dad to help. I too have imbibed that.
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What made you convert to Islam?
My father is a staunch Hindu and is so superstitious that even if a glass breaks, he will call a pandit. Both my parents were ritualistic,
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My father was the last one I told in my house to. I told him, 'I have started reading the Quran and it gives me a lot of peace.' He said to me, 'Yuvan, I am not comfortable with you becoming Islamic.'

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Re: Anything about IR found on the net - Vol 2

Post  vaticanscientist on Wed Aug 13, 2014 1:57 am

app_engine wrote:

My father was the last one I told in my house to. I told him, 'I have started reading the Quran and it gives me a lot of peace.' He said to me, 'Yuvan, I am not comfortable with you becoming Islamic.'

Wow! I think that last stuff may have been made up by TOI. I remember Rajkiran telling in an Interview (Suriya Vanakkam) how Illayaraja was his spiritual advisor and they used to go to Bangalore Dargah together.

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Re: Anything about IR found on the net - Vol 2

Post  Usha on Wed Aug 13, 2014 2:16 pm

from 8.43 ... Raja sir patri solrar.......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BP4fOJip05Y

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Re: Anything about IR found on the net - Vol 2

Post  Drunkenmunk on Wed Aug 13, 2014 5:22 pm

vaticanscientist wrote:
app_engine wrote:

My father was the last one I told in my house to. I told him, 'I have started reading the Quran and it gives me a lot of peace.' He said to me, 'Yuvan, I am not comfortable with you becoming Islamic.'

Wow! I think that last stuff may have been made up by TOI. I remember Rajkiran telling in an Interview (Suriya Vanakkam) how Illayaraja was his spiritual advisor and they used to go to Bangalore Dargah together.

Hindu has also reproduced the same interview in Tamil. So it is safe to assume Yuvan said what he said. Frankly, I don't grudge Raaja here. Raaja advising Rajkiran was different. Rajkiran is Muslim by birth and IR advising him spiritually shows his secular mindset. Yuvan is his son. It would be wrong and illiberal on you or me to pass a judgement on his conversion. But IR is entitled to, as a father. And him not being comfortable did not make him stop Yuvan from converting or Yuvan himself from converting. It again underlines his secular credentials. He is simply not comfortable. And as a dad, he has the right to express that when his son tells him the decision. That will not make him any less secular IMO Smile

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Re: Anything about IR found on the net - Vol 2

Post  app_engine on Wed Aug 13, 2014 6:20 pm

An interesting post in the pazhaya kadai after a long time

rajaramsgi wrote:
ஹவ் டு நேம் இட், நத்திங் பட் வின்ட் எல்லாம் இந்த கால கட்டத்தில் தான் வந்தது. இன்று வெளியீடு என்று வந்த பேப்பர் விளம்பரங்கள் எல்லாம் ஊரில் பத்திரமாக வைத்திருக்கிறேன்

வேதம் புதிது அப்போது ரிலீஸ் டயம் . எம்.ஜி.ஆர் இறந்து விட்டதால் ரெண்டு மூன்று நாட்கள் தள்ளி மாரிசில் ரிலீஸ் செய்தார்கள். படத்தை பற்றி ஏக பில்ட் அப் . வைரமுத்துவால் பிரச்சனை ஏற்பட்டு பாரதிராஜாவும் ராஜா சாரும் பிரிந்து எல்லா தினசரி வார இதழ்களிலும் அசிங்க படுத்தி கொண்டார்கள். ராஜா சார் இசை இல்லை என்பதால் படம் பார்க்க விருப்பமே இல்லை.. ஆனால், எம்.ஜி.ஆர் இறுதி ஊர்வலம் பற்றி தமிழ் நாடு அரசு செய்தி சுருள் வழியாய் வெளியிட்டிருந்தார்கள். வைரமுத்து எழுதி, பாரதிராஜா படம் பண்ணி ராஜா சார் இசை அமைத்து பாடி வெளியிடப்பட்ட அந்த செய்தி சுருள் வேதம் புதிதுக்கு முன்னர் காட்ட பட்டதால் தினந்தோறும் சென்றேன் பார்க்க. நான் பார்க்க கூடாது என்று நினைத்த வேதம் புதிது இதனால் பலமுறை பார்க்க நேரிட்டது.

என் சொந்த கதைகளை உங்களிடம் அளந்து விட்டதால். மன்னிக்கவும் . இப்போதெல்லாம் என் மனைவியிடம் ராஜா சார் பற்றி பேசினாலே டார்ச்சர் பண்ணாதீர்கள் என்று காதை மூடி கொள்கிறார். அதான் கொஞ்சம் எல்லை மீறி விட்டேன். எனக்கு பைத்தியம் பிடித்துவிட்டால் ராஜா சார், ராஜா சார் என்று சட்டை பியித்து கொண்டு அலைவேணாம், மனைவி சொல்கிறார்.

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Re: Anything about IR found on the net - Vol 2

Post  kiru on Thu Aug 14, 2014 5:48 am

Drunkenmunk wrote:
vaticanscientist wrote:
app_engine wrote:

My father was the last one I told in my house to. I told him, 'I have started reading the Quran and it gives me a lot of peace.' He said to me, 'Yuvan, I am not comfortable with you becoming Islamic.'

Wow! I think that last stuff may have been made up by TOI. I remember Rajkiran telling in an Interview (Suriya Vanakkam) how Illayaraja was his spiritual advisor and they used to go to Bangalore Dargah together.

Hindu has also reproduced the same interview in Tamil. So it is safe to assume Yuvan said what he said. Frankly, I don't grudge Raaja here. Raaja advising Rajkiran was different. Rajkiran is Muslim by birth and IR advising him spiritually shows his secular mindset. Yuvan is his son. It would be wrong and illiberal on you or me to pass a judgement on his conversion. But IR is entitled to, as a father. And him not being comfortable did not make him stop Yuvan from converting or Yuvan himself from converting. It again underlines his secular credentials. He is simply not comfortable. And as a dad, he has the right to express that when his son tells him the decision. That will not make him any less secular IMO Smile

Well said, DM.

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