Appreciating impressive TFM ludes that are not by IR :)

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Appreciating impressive TFM ludes that are not by IR :)

Post  app_engine on Tue Nov 19, 2013 6:57 pm

While there is no question that IR is the "நேற்று இல்லே நாளை இல்லே எப்பவும் நான் ராஜா" of preludes / interludes and postludes of TFM songs, we can definitely spot sweet, brilliant and enjoyable ludes from other masters of TFM as well.

This thread will be the place to pick out and appreciate some real good ones Smile

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Re: Appreciating impressive TFM ludes that are not by IR :)

Post  app_engine on Tue Nov 19, 2013 7:12 pm

mellisai mannar MSV excelled in melody and that at times greatly benefited his ludes as well. While I'm not knowledgeable enough to comment on the instrumental brilliance in them, often there had been an endearing melodic quality to some of his great ludes.

One that instantly comes to my mind is the prelude of 'rAjAvin pArvai rANiyin pakkam'!

That starts with a sweet, dreamy humming by PS - that definitely harmonizes with the "Saroja Devi dreaming about MGR" setting Wink

Then comes the grand beginning with bells, drums (that mimick sounds of horses) and the terrific string accompaniment! There's also this wind instrument (accordian or organ or whatever) that adds charm to the proceedings.

Thoroughly enjoyable & melodious!



One of the best songs from the MSV-TMS-PS combo!

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Post  Drunkenmunk on Tue Nov 19, 2013 7:13 pm

Just for the shehnai. Just the shehnai. Shehnai (apparently by Bharat Ratna Bismillah Khan and MSV's Satyam, after which MSV's supposed to have said "en Satyam dhaan mEl Smile ).
 

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Re: Appreciating impressive TFM ludes that are not by IR :)

Post  app_engine on Tue Nov 19, 2013 9:56 pm

DM,
Was TKR still with MSV for Karnan?

Also, is the youtube you've placed here the "digital" version? Looks nice!

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Post  app_engine on Tue Nov 19, 2013 9:58 pm

One of my fav MSV songs - malairANi mundhAnai of orE vAnam orE bhoomi.

The first interlude was / is one of my all-time-fav Smile

Canada side Niagara falls in the picturization - first time watch for me, I never knew that it was KRV in that movie Embarassed


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Post  Drunkenmunk on Wed Nov 20, 2013 11:44 am

app_engine wrote:DM,
Was TKR still with MSV for Karnan?

Also, is the youtube you've placed here the "digital" version? Looks nice!
Yeah. TKR was with MSV. Tune was MSV's and orch and arrangement in all likelihood was TKR's. If I'm not wrong, they were together till Aayirathil Oruvan in 1965. Youtube fossible that it's digital.

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Re: Appreciating impressive TFM ludes that are not by IR :)

Post  app_engine on Wed Nov 20, 2013 3:28 pm

Drunkenmunk wrote:
Yeah. TKR was with MSV. Tune was MSV's and orch and arrangement in all likelihood was TKR's. If I'm not wrong, they were together till Aayirathil Oruvan in 1965. Youtube fossible that it's digital.
nanRi DM sir!

Me too thought so - but timing knowledge lacking Embarassed

AO was the last prior to parting, yes...they "rejoined" in chithram remake I think Smile

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Post  baroque on Mon Nov 25, 2013 10:43 pm

Romantic mood of ragam Kanada   from A.R..Rahman's  bass guitar,piano strokes  prelude Very Happy

 உன் புடவை முந்தானை சாய்ந்ததில் இந்த பூமி பூ பூத்தது
இது கம்பன் பாடாத சிந்தனை உந்தன் காதோடு யார் சொன்னது!

My favorite is the second interlude with synthesizer, bass guitar, cello & flute followed by the charanam

நீ அணைக்கின்ற வேளையில் உயிர் பூ வெடுக்கென்று மலரும்




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Minimalistic Piano strokes backdrop in Charukesi rag lullaby AAHISTA AAHISTA ... SWADES..... FROM RAHMAN .


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Post  crimson king on Thu Nov 28, 2013 6:28 pm

Love the little pause before the reflective guitar passage in the first/second interlude of Ninaipathellam Nadanduvithal.  It's also my favourite pre-IR Tamil song.  Nenjil Oru Alayam is a classic album indeed.  


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Post  jaiganesh on Tue Dec 10, 2013 12:26 am

Enna idhi enna idhi ennai kolvadhu from Nala Dhamayanthi.
Ramesh vinayagam so gets it right - counterpoints progressions, arrangements - everything neatly arranged with not a single note out of place.. Bravo..

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Post  Usha on Fri Dec 13, 2013 1:32 pm

soft tune of MSV............

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIohV3xg5a4

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Post  Usha on Fri Dec 13, 2013 1:43 pm

Simply Great........

kannan ennum mannan perai solla solla

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nymih9WGhYY

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Post  Usha on Fri Dec 13, 2013 1:47 pm

Pon endrum poo endrum......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7GhGUNjRj4

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Post  Usha on Fri Dec 13, 2013 1:56 pm

paaduvor paadinal  - Lovely Piano works by MSV.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKJptaU3guY

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Post  app_engine on Sun Dec 15, 2013 4:55 pm

Some twitter exchange on this JeMo article on AA Raj reminded me of 'vAsamillA malaridhu' of OTR.

The album originally had music credits as "Rajendran-AA Raj", Rajendran being T Rajendar Smile
(TR wrote all lyrics for OTR, lovely ones! He was perhaps the basic tune smith for pallavi and such and AAR did the rest of music dept. Such as building on the basic mettu with additional nuances, interludes, orch and such ; it was also possible that AAR did some mettoos himself)...

In any case, that repeat interlude (lead guitar stuff) was a rage at the time of arrival - boys "singing" it -  and I can enjoy it even now (though at a very very lower level of excitement to IR's interludes obviously):

vAsamillA malaridhu - look for first and third interludes - audio only

Rajendar & Robert-Rajasekar who did the visual part didn't do justice to the interlude as they truncated it:


The fun conversation at twitter today (started by SKV):
https://twitter.com/tekvijay/status/411897721193132033

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Post  Wizzy on Mon Dec 16, 2013 7:23 pm

tfm at heart  Wink  'Dil mera' from an obscure hindi movie.those signature electric violins interludes, its a shame that Karthikraja been reduced to giving patchworks
for U1 Neutral 



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Post  Drunkenmunk on Mon Dec 16, 2013 7:51 pm

Wizzy wrote:tfm at heart  Wink  'Dil mera' from an obscure hindi movie.those signature electric violins interludes, its a shame that Karthikraja been reduced to giving patchworks
for U1 Neutral 



My most favorite KR song. A pity this is unknown even in his home state with his already minimal discography  Sad and to think even this youtube lists some random Vikesh Mehta as the composer and has it unchanged despite a few hollering comments from namma aatkaL. Tcha. Unlucky fellow KR.

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Post  app_engine on Mon Dec 16, 2013 11:04 pm

A letter to JeMo validates what I posted on TR - here and in twitter


கடைசியாக இன்னொரு விஷயம். எல் வைத்தியநாதனுக்கு நம்முடைய சினிமா சங்கீதத்தில் உள்ள இடம் நிறையபேருக்குத் தெரியாது. ராஜேந்தர் எல்லாம் வாயால் பாட்டுபோடுவதோடு சரி. அதை வைத்தியநாதன் பலவிதமாக வாசிப்பார். அதை ரிக்கார்டு செய்து ஒரு நல்ல கண்டக்டரின் உதவியோடு பாட்டாக ஆக்குவார்கள். எல் வைத்தியநாதன் உதவிசெய்யாமல் பாட்டுபோட்டவர் இளையராஜா மட்டும்தான். அதேமாதிரி பலபேருக்கு ஏ.ஏ.ராஜ் பாட்டு போட்டிருக்கிறார்

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Post  app_engine on Mon Dec 23, 2013 5:19 am

A blog post about OTR / JeMo / AA Raj / TR


ஜெயமோகனின் இசை ரசிப்பு புல்லரிக்கிறது.

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Post  Usha on Tue Dec 24, 2013 5:10 pm

Merry Chirstmas...........

Sathiya muthirai...........

Beautiful Lyrics..................
  7 vayasil kaeten mudhal muraiyaga.. indru varai... manasuku piditha paaatu......... Great Compositiion of MSV........
Really Great........

The Church Bell.......... claps.. PS voice...... very Soulful........... Love a Lot........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3o_VSo6wTo8

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Post  Usha on Tue Dec 24, 2013 5:18 pm

One more MSV.......

Mannugalil indru devan  - VJ....... lovely Renditiion............

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUPZF_PhCYE

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Post  app_engine on Mon Jan 13, 2014 7:32 pm

Fantastic number from the last movie of MSV-TKR combo prior to their split - Ayirathil oruvan.

adhO andhappaRavai pOla - though the prelude essentially plays only the pallavi, what a lovely one is that!

Also, though the interlude repeats, I simply love it!

One of the very best from the mellisai mannargaL (song / orch / ludes)!

MP3 link

The joyous on-screen stuff is on youtube:


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Post  Drunkenmunk on Mon Jan 13, 2014 7:37 pm

Kannadasan is incredible. Heard an anecdote that MGR went to Kannadasan only lastly after every other lyricist failed to get it right. And Kannadasan did so instantly. காற்று நம்மை அடிமையென்று விலகவில்லையே, கடல் நீரும் அடிமை என்று சுடுவதில்லையே. காலம் நம்மை விட்டு விட்டு நடப்பதில்லையே, காதல் பாசம் தாய்மை நம்மை மறப்பதில்லையே. Awesomeness.

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Re: Appreciating impressive TFM ludes that are not by IR :)

Post  app_engine on Thu Jan 16, 2014 8:22 pm

It's not very often that I hear a non-IR TFM track on repeat while driving. That too voluntarily!

This reethi gowLai number - simple yet beautiful - is on repeat since last evening on my drives : kaNgaL iraNdAl Smile

The first interlude is definitely the highlight of the song - that flute portion is so delectable! Agreed, that "sound" is inspired from rAsA's chinnakkaNNan azhaikkiRAn, but the whole song is not.

The Sashikumar - James Vasanthan combo definitely internalized IR of 1980 and made this song. The director definitely got a lot of credit from me for the brilliant embedding of "siRuponmaNi asaiyum" into that movie, from time to time. Now, I should say I love the picturization of this kaNgaL song as well:



In a way, Sashikumar was in phenomenal form in his first movie w.r.t TFM. He was among those who reminisced back what the director gumbal that were close associates of ARR had kicked out from TF in the 90's (including MR / Shankar et al). Those biggy phonies had made a mockery of TFM by making them "MTV videos" Mad 

Granted the nonsense got started by AVM much earlier (SPM & rAsA songs) and later TR was doing much of the damage (in 80's). To the extent that rAsA himself would have lost interest scoring for TFM in 90's and possibly found more satisfaction composing for Malayalam movies.

However, the crown of such clowning of TFM must be given to ARR-associates. (Add Sun-TV kind of gumbal to the mix, TN had a deadly combo that killed any interest people might have had on songs that had any relevance to the movie's script).

Not that I love Subramanyapuram movie as a whole (watched it only once, too much blood that I could stomach) but love those two song sequences (siRu ponmaNi & kaNgaL iraNdAl) that are phenomenal by any standard!

Actually, nowadays with the DVD-internet style of movie watching, it is very rare to enjoy ANY movie as a whole Embarassed All that one enjoys are some great moments here and there and from that PoV, Sashikumar gets great marks for these scenes, regardless of how the movie was!

The song, as a standalone, scores great on three counts for me...

1. Obviously the first interlude - simply sweet flute!

2. The anupallavi is fantastic! Though the pallavi starts in a JamesV-church-style fashion but sans any WCM in a flat manner, the sweetness of the rAgam that comes with some rich bhAvam in the anupallavi blows one away. (The female singer otherwise sings mostly flat but excels here).

"பேச எண்ணி சில நாள் அருகில் வருவேன்
பின்பு பார்வை போதும் என நான் நினைத்தே நகர்வேன், ஏமாற்றி"" is so lovely!

That connective "ஏமாற்றி" is so IR-like and makes the whole portion so nostalgic 80's.

3. pAdal varigaL are lovely, reminding one not necessarily the on-screen stuff but (most probably) stuff that happened in one's own youth Wink

Full marks to whoever that wrote those lines! (Thamarai?)

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Re: Appreciating impressive TFM ludes that are not by IR :)

Post  V_S on Thu Jan 16, 2014 9:45 pm

Nice post App ji Smile I too like it. I have a playlist of non-IR very selective songs (especially after 92) and this song is in.

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