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Post  app_engine Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:57 am

I searched around the web for the name of the person who does the 'nattuvanAr' stuff in the 'thEr koNdu senRavan yArendRu solladi thOzhi' song of enakkuL oruvan (That "thA-thukka-thaka-jam" adidhadi, in the prelude and interludes) but could not find Embarassed !

I guess it's the same person who did the same for thillAnA mOhanAmbAL songs / thiruvarutchelvar song / amudhE thamizhE azhagiya mozhiyE of kOvil puRA ("thamizhE nALum nee pAdu, thambi evvaLavu azhagAppAduRAn") etc.

Does anyone know?

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Post  app_engine Tue Nov 20, 2012 4:32 pm

Looks like that was a tough question - still to hear from jAmbavAns.

Anyways, (possibly) a simple question :

What's the instrument that starts the prelude of 'kaNNan oru kaikkuzhandhai' of bathrakALi?

Is it santoor or keyboard?

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Post  Wizzy Sun Dec 23, 2012 11:38 am

gentle bump Smile

is this part of Aa Rathiri album? all this while thot it had only Kiliyee and Ee neelima than, delightful track this

http://tinyurl.com/d7mp79g


PS: mallus like kannads are terrible @ bookkeeping, there isn't a single site to leech any remotely old album in its entirety Neutral
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Post  V_S Mon Dec 24, 2012 1:29 am

App,
Missed this thread. Most of the songs where we say santoor in Maestro's songs (atleast from 80s) is nothing but the santoor tone from keyboard, not the original santoor. Please listen to the prelude of poothu poothu from kumbakkarai thanggaiyya. It is not from santoor, but the santoor tone produced by keyboard, but it sounds so original. So the prelude in kannan oru kai kuzhanthai definitely sounds original santoor, as the period of late 70s makes me believe that it is original santoor rather than santoor tone.

Here is the original santoor by Pandit. Shivkumar Sharma. We can hear the difference between original and keyboard'ish tone, especially from 1:00:00 - 1:12:00, when the tempo picks up.


Wizzy,
Yes Maarolsavam is from the same film Aa Raathri. Kicksass composition!. Few years ago, there used to be one site punchapaadam.com where they used to share many IR albums, but now they discontinued sharing it. May be it's not about book-keeping, they (malayalam industry) are intentional about it. Let me know if you need anything from malayalam. I should have most of them.
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Post  plum Mon Dec 24, 2012 5:03 am

V_S - nEkku Malayalam vENum. Dont think B(K) will have it

But ippO upload paNNAdhinga
I am going to talk to wizzy and find the best possible way of buying a storage device and possibly a computing device, too. adhukkappuRam kEkkuREn.

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Post  V_S Mon Dec 24, 2012 6:18 am

Sure plum. eppO vEnum'nu sollunga, upload senjiduvOm.
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Post  Wizzy Mon Dec 24, 2012 8:31 am

V_S thx for clearing the air, was taking backups of all my collection(Plum effect) only to find some mallu stuff are coded with such low fidelity that my player patently refuses to play Smile top of my head I need Vyamoham and Dooram Arike, will post the list of songs later
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Post  app_engine Wed Jan 02, 2013 6:04 pm

nanRi V_Sji for the confirmation on santoor!

For the other question, I tried to look at the "now-available" record cover of kOyil puRA at the musicalaya website.

Even that doesn't have the name of the person who says 'thambi evvaLavu azhagA pAdinAn' Sad

(Also, enakkuL oruvan record cover credits only P Suseela for thEr koNdu vandhavan song, missing the nattuvanAr's name)

Quite elusive...yArAchchum kumudam kELvi-badhil paguthiyil rAsA kitta indhakkELviya kEkkalAm...

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Post  rajkumarc Thu Jan 17, 2013 12:25 am

There is a song that goes like "Manjal Veyyil Sevvaanathil" sung by Jolly Abraham and Vani Jeyaram. I thought it was from Nandu until I recently watched the movie and found that it featured a different song - Manjal Veyyil Maalai Itta Poove sung by Uma Ramanan. Does any one know which movie is the first song featured in?

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Post  V_S Thu Jan 17, 2013 2:02 am

rajkumarc,
It is from Pallavi Anupallavi (thamizh version).
http://www.dhool.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=15699

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Post  rajkumarc Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:23 pm

Thanks for the info VS.

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Post  skr Sun Jan 20, 2013 11:32 am

V_S ji ,
Thanks a lot for clarifying the doubt..I heard the song Manjal Veyyil Sevvanathil about 5 yrs ago and wasnt able to find out which movie it belonged to.
I was also not sure also whether it was IR or MSV who composed this.

Just one small favour , can you please copy/paste the content from Dhool.com here as Dhool.com is blocked in India.

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Post  plum Sun Jan 20, 2013 6:58 pm

Oh blockedA? It wasnt loading recently. I thought they had shut shop. What matter?

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Post  groucho070 Mon Jan 21, 2013 5:18 am

Finally watched Puthu Puthu Arthanggal in full. What's the story. Some part of the background score is clearly not IR. I hear some MSV, and some Hindi shit. Guys?

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Post  plum Mon Jan 21, 2013 4:31 pm

Famous story. KB wasted IR's call-sheet and called him suddenly to finish re-recording later. IR refused saying he has made other commitments and he cannot put them back, and asked KB to wait.
KB went ahead and got his own bits and pieces BGM done.
After that, IR refused to work with KB again.
And then KB tried Maragadhamani, Deva et al before he struck Gold with Rahman.

Once achieved, he used media to defame IR in many ways including blackout of IR's 94-95 *superhits*(Read sureshs65's thread and P_R's tweet on "if ppl think 94-95 was only aasai and indian etc, soocide paNNikkaNum). He used media to spread canards about IR's arrogance, ably aided by his comrades-in-arm.
Given that IR's jaadhi was a reason which made him resist him in the first place, until SB, the reading between the lines is that the jaadhi-supremacy in him drove him to his actions.

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Post  jaiganesh Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:10 am

anyone have piano score sheet or chords
for oh butterfly? serking desperately.

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Post  app_engine Tue Jan 22, 2013 2:08 am

jaiganesh wrote:anyone have piano score sheet or chords
for oh butterfly? serking desperately.

I spotted this link (payment sought):

http://www.musicsheettamilsongs.com/5tamil_songs-page-2_k_to_p

Look at S# 15

He plays on youtube :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4Z46o97vtQ

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Post  jaiganesh Tue Jan 22, 2013 3:54 am

nandri a_e!!!

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Post  groucho070 Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:01 am

Thanks Plum, I kinda got that idea when you were talking about KB defaming IR.

But would appreciate details on what exactly KB did after, well, striking, err, gold or whatchamacallit. What Jathi? Sorry, am a bit blur on that subject. You can PM me, but then, in this forum, let's be transparent. And don't give me that "ding" dong stuff. nEradiyA sollungga. I am lost on that KB attempting to defame IR part. I mean, I'd really appreciate it if you give your view. Right now, I am in the "KB is one of the best directors in TFI" camp. Now is the time to make me a skeptic.

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Post  kamalaakarsh Fri Jan 25, 2013 2:10 pm

Does anyone have any idea about this film: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kadamai_Kanniyam_Kattupaadu Never heard about it and never saw the album on thiraipaadal and other such sites. Any clue how is the music?
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Post  app_engine Fri Jan 25, 2013 6:24 pm

kamalaakarsh wrote:Does anyone have any idea about this film: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kadamai_Kanniyam_Kattupaadu Never heard about it and never saw the album on thiraipaadal and other such sites. Any clue how is the music?

As far as I know, there had been NO songs in the movie. That's why you won't find it in thiraippadal website. (I haven't seen the movie and so no idea about how the BGM was).

It was produced by Kamal but Sathyaraj acted as hero.

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Post  V_S Fri Jan 25, 2013 6:32 pm

aakarsh,
This film didn't have any songs. Sure, it has a nice background score.

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Post  app_engine Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:41 am

Isn't there some original 'vAdiyammA ponmagaLE' song by PS?

I got a chance to listen to that PS-SPB song in palootti vaLarththa kiLi and wonder whether this is a "remix" or "spoof" of an old song...

If so, what is the original? Or, is this the original (& by default a fun song)?

At the minimum, 'vAdiyammA ponmagaLE vandha idam nalla idam' was quite popular those days...

Link for the fun song by IR: http://www.thiraipaadal.com/album.php?ALBID=ALBIRR00457&lang=en

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Post  kiru Wed Apr 17, 2013 8:13 pm

groucho070 wrote:Thanks Plum, I kinda got that idea when you were talking about KB defaming IR.

But would appreciate details on what exactly KB did after, well, striking, err, gold or whatchamacallit. What Jathi? Sorry, am a bit blur on that subject. You can PM me, but then, in this forum, let's be transparent. And don't give me that "ding" dong stuff. nEradiyA sollungga. I am lost on that KB attempting to defame IR part. I mean, I'd really appreciate it if you give your view. Right now, I am in the "KB is one of the best directors in TFI" camp. Now is the time to make me a skeptic.
I think KB's relationship with IR is in no way related or detrimental to his reputation as a good director. I liked KB's older movies, but later it all became a bit adult oriented and I am not into appreciating that kind of relationship. Even SB's plot is something I dont really like. It was a male chauvinistic point of view. And whatever happened to Suhasini's character is sad and I 'sense' some insensitivity in the director. Similar things happen in pudhu pudhu arthangal and seeing more examples like this, I am not fond of KB as a person (not because of his tiff with IR).

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Post  V_S Sun Oct 06, 2013 3:02 am

I am listening to Dharma Bhoomi songs. From the soundscape and juvenile lyrics to fit the tune, I feel it is definitely a dubbed version from telugu. I also heard that the hero of the movie is Balakrishna. Initially I thought it was dubbed from Dharma Kshetram where Balakrishna and Divya Bharathi acted, but when hearing Dharma Kshetram songs looks like none of the songs were dubbed to Dharma Bhoomi. So there should be some other telugu original movie for Dharma Bhoomi. Does anyone know about it? If so, please share the details.

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